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On July 26 2012 05:05 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 05:04 SuperYo1000 wrote:
why would we downgrade? adding bw units would be boring. We know what they do. We have seen it before for past 10 years. Lets not be stuck on a game thats 14 years old
PS. Being a sequel doesnt mean its EXACT SAME GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS...thats called an expansion doesn't mean you should go backwards in game design. >_>
Yes, but that's a different conversation.
On July 26 2012 05:09 Shebuha wrote:
IMO it doesn't make sense for Dustin Browder to say, "If you want BW units, go play BW," if a bunch of people playing his game are asking for BW units. In the thread here on TL the Lurker crushed the Swarm Host in every category (See: Lurker vs. Swarm Host), so obviously it's more liked than the Swarm Host. Why would a guy who's making a video game, who wants to make money, and therefore wants to appeal to the most people he can ignore the requests of his consumers?!?!?!
TL polls are not exactly the most... unbiased source in the world. TL polls also would be strongly in favor of ditching rally mine, MBS, smart-cast, and many other things.
That doesn't make them right.
It should also be noted that this poll is effectively taken in ignorance, since very few people have ever used Swarm Hosts.
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On July 26 2012 06:42 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 05:05 zhurai wrote:On July 26 2012 05:04 SuperYo1000 wrote:
why would we downgrade? adding bw units would be boring. We know what they do. We have seen it before for past 10 years. Lets not be stuck on a game thats 14 years old
PS. Being a sequel doesnt mean its EXACT SAME GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS...thats called an expansion doesn't mean you should go backwards in game design. >_> Yes, but that's a different conversation. Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 05:09 Shebuha wrote:
IMO it doesn't make sense for Dustin Browder to say, "If you want BW units, go play BW," if a bunch of people playing his game are asking for BW units. In the thread here on TL the Lurker crushed the Swarm Host in every category (See: Lurker vs. Swarm Host), so obviously it's more liked than the Swarm Host. Why would a guy who's making a video game, who wants to make money, and therefore wants to appeal to the most people he can ignore the requests of his consumers?!?!?!
TL polls are not exactly the most... unbiased source in the world. TL polls also would be strongly in favor of ditching rally mine, MBS, smart-cast, and many other things. That doesn't make them right. It should also be noted that this poll is effectively taken in ignorance, since very few people have ever used Swarm Hosts.
Yeah, you are definitely right, I was just using that as an example to illustrate my point, that people are saying that they want things, and DB isn't giving it to them for some odd reason.
Thank you for pointing that out! ^_^
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On July 26 2012 07:07 Shebuha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 06:42 NicolBolas wrote:On July 26 2012 05:05 zhurai wrote:On July 26 2012 05:04 SuperYo1000 wrote:
why would we downgrade? adding bw units would be boring. We know what they do. We have seen it before for past 10 years. Lets not be stuck on a game thats 14 years old
PS. Being a sequel doesnt mean its EXACT SAME GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS...thats called an expansion doesn't mean you should go backwards in game design. >_> Yes, but that's a different conversation. On July 26 2012 05:09 Shebuha wrote:
IMO it doesn't make sense for Dustin Browder to say, "If you want BW units, go play BW," if a bunch of people playing his game are asking for BW units. In the thread here on TL the Lurker crushed the Swarm Host in every category (See: Lurker vs. Swarm Host), so obviously it's more liked than the Swarm Host. Why would a guy who's making a video game, who wants to make money, and therefore wants to appeal to the most people he can ignore the requests of his consumers?!?!?!
TL polls are not exactly the most... unbiased source in the world. TL polls also would be strongly in favor of ditching rally mine, MBS, smart-cast, and many other things. That doesn't make them right. It should also be noted that this poll is effectively taken in ignorance, since very few people have ever used Swarm Hosts. Yeah, you are definitely right, I was just using that as an example to illustrate my point, that people are saying that they want things, and DB isn't giving it to them for some odd reason. Thank you for pointing that out! ^_^
The problem you're not getting is the whole "for some odd reason" thing that doesn't make sense. There are very legitimate reasons why Blizzard does not design SC2 based on TL polls. It's not an "odd reason"; it's called common sense.
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On July 26 2012 07:14 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:07 Shebuha wrote:On July 26 2012 06:42 NicolBolas wrote:On July 26 2012 05:05 zhurai wrote:On July 26 2012 05:04 SuperYo1000 wrote:
why would we downgrade? adding bw units would be boring. We know what they do. We have seen it before for past 10 years. Lets not be stuck on a game thats 14 years old
PS. Being a sequel doesnt mean its EXACT SAME GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS...thats called an expansion doesn't mean you should go backwards in game design. >_> Yes, but that's a different conversation. On July 26 2012 05:09 Shebuha wrote:
IMO it doesn't make sense for Dustin Browder to say, "If you want BW units, go play BW," if a bunch of people playing his game are asking for BW units. In the thread here on TL the Lurker crushed the Swarm Host in every category (See: Lurker vs. Swarm Host), so obviously it's more liked than the Swarm Host. Why would a guy who's making a video game, who wants to make money, and therefore wants to appeal to the most people he can ignore the requests of his consumers?!?!?!
TL polls are not exactly the most... unbiased source in the world. TL polls also would be strongly in favor of ditching rally mine, MBS, smart-cast, and many other things. That doesn't make them right. It should also be noted that this poll is effectively taken in ignorance, since very few people have ever used Swarm Hosts. Yeah, you are definitely right, I was just using that as an example to illustrate my point, that people are saying that they want things, and DB isn't giving it to them for some odd reason. Thank you for pointing that out! ^_^ The problem you're not getting is the whole "for some odd reason" thing that doesn't make sense. There are very legitimate reasons why Blizzard does not design SC2 based on TL polls. It's not an "odd reason"; it's called common sense.
My point is that it would be common sense to see what the people playing the game want rather than shrugging them off and saying, "go play the other game." I didn't say that they should design based on TL polls, that was an example of "a bunch of people... asking for BW units," and displays that it may be more liked than the Swarm Host (as you pointed out the bias).
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On July 26 2012 09:27 Shebuha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:14 NicolBolas wrote:On July 26 2012 07:07 Shebuha wrote:On July 26 2012 06:42 NicolBolas wrote:On July 26 2012 05:05 zhurai wrote:On July 26 2012 05:04 SuperYo1000 wrote:
why would we downgrade? adding bw units would be boring. We know what they do. We have seen it before for past 10 years. Lets not be stuck on a game thats 14 years old
PS. Being a sequel doesnt mean its EXACT SAME GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS...thats called an expansion doesn't mean you should go backwards in game design. >_> Yes, but that's a different conversation. On July 26 2012 05:09 Shebuha wrote:
IMO it doesn't make sense for Dustin Browder to say, "If you want BW units, go play BW," if a bunch of people playing his game are asking for BW units. In the thread here on TL the Lurker crushed the Swarm Host in every category (See: Lurker vs. Swarm Host), so obviously it's more liked than the Swarm Host. Why would a guy who's making a video game, who wants to make money, and therefore wants to appeal to the most people he can ignore the requests of his consumers?!?!?!
TL polls are not exactly the most... unbiased source in the world. TL polls also would be strongly in favor of ditching rally mine, MBS, smart-cast, and many other things. That doesn't make them right. It should also be noted that this poll is effectively taken in ignorance, since very few people have ever used Swarm Hosts. Yeah, you are definitely right, I was just using that as an example to illustrate my point, that people are saying that they want things, and DB isn't giving it to them for some odd reason. Thank you for pointing that out! ^_^ The problem you're not getting is the whole "for some odd reason" thing that doesn't make sense. There are very legitimate reasons why Blizzard does not design SC2 based on TL polls. It's not an "odd reason"; it's called common sense. My point is that it would be common sense to see what the people playing the game want rather than shrugging them off and saying, "go play the other game." I didn't say that they should design based on TL polls, that was an example of "a bunch of people... asking for BW units," and displays that it may be more liked than the Swarm Host (as you pointed out the bias).
The issue is that TL isn't really a good representation of the general gaming public. Things like smartcasting might not be popular with high-master players but you get that no one in the lower leagues is complaining about it.
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On July 26 2012 09:29 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 09:27 Shebuha wrote:On July 26 2012 07:14 NicolBolas wrote:On July 26 2012 07:07 Shebuha wrote:On July 26 2012 06:42 NicolBolas wrote:On July 26 2012 05:05 zhurai wrote:On July 26 2012 05:04 SuperYo1000 wrote:
why would we downgrade? adding bw units would be boring. We know what they do. We have seen it before for past 10 years. Lets not be stuck on a game thats 14 years old
PS. Being a sequel doesnt mean its EXACT SAME GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS...thats called an expansion doesn't mean you should go backwards in game design. >_> Yes, but that's a different conversation. On July 26 2012 05:09 Shebuha wrote:
IMO it doesn't make sense for Dustin Browder to say, "If you want BW units, go play BW," if a bunch of people playing his game are asking for BW units. In the thread here on TL the Lurker crushed the Swarm Host in every category (See: Lurker vs. Swarm Host), so obviously it's more liked than the Swarm Host. Why would a guy who's making a video game, who wants to make money, and therefore wants to appeal to the most people he can ignore the requests of his consumers?!?!?!
TL polls are not exactly the most... unbiased source in the world. TL polls also would be strongly in favor of ditching rally mine, MBS, smart-cast, and many other things. That doesn't make them right. It should also be noted that this poll is effectively taken in ignorance, since very few people have ever used Swarm Hosts. Yeah, you are definitely right, I was just using that as an example to illustrate my point, that people are saying that they want things, and DB isn't giving it to them for some odd reason. Thank you for pointing that out! ^_^ The problem you're not getting is the whole "for some odd reason" thing that doesn't make sense. There are very legitimate reasons why Blizzard does not design SC2 based on TL polls. It's not an "odd reason"; it's called common sense. My point is that it would be common sense to see what the people playing the game want rather than shrugging them off and saying, "go play the other game." I didn't say that they should design based on TL polls, that was an example of "a bunch of people... asking for BW units," and displays that it may be more liked than the Swarm Host (as you pointed out the bias). The issue is that TL isn't really a good representation of the general gaming public. Things like smartcasting might not be popular with high-master players but you get that no one in the lower leagues is complaining about it.
Yeah... he pointed out the bias and I agreed.
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