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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On June 07 2012 01:51 roym899 wrote: Well it's funny that there are no guys here saying this guy doesn't hack and this is no evidence like in the Spades hacking thread, because it's pretty much the same. Your quite embarrassing if you don't think it's enough proof at this guy in this thread. | ||
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote: ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose. The problem is he doesn't deserve a free trip to anaheim, where they are paying a large sum of money in travel/hotel expenses for someone who is illegitimately taking up a spot that so many people who tried to qualify through QUALIFIERS, not ladder, were unable to get. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
If Blizz had had data on this guy they would have never, never, never invited him. So I guess they haven't been keeping track as well as we all thought they would have. | ||
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Random_Guy09
Canada1010 Posts
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote: ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose. Your honestly blind to think no one at MLG is going to BM the living hell of him? Even with rumors of blizzard hiring security to protect him that won't stop anything and proves that blizzard doesn't care as that spot could have been given to someone more deserving and who'd actually have a chance. But no instead we have a hacker that will get destroyed thus making that spot useless. Lots have spoken up and said that this is actually really bad as it can potentially make sponsors reconsider sponsoring the scene. | ||
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Chakoi
United Kingdom81 Posts
People who spend hours every day practising and people who just cheat knock their chances in becoming or having a chance becoming good or even on their way of becoming professional. Do you think this gives us sc2 + the sc2 game as a esports game a good look? That blizzard lets cheaters on ladders and invite them to expenses of trips which they don't deserve.... This problem needs to be fixed or it's going to sink | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote: ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose. zero problem? he is taking a plane seat and a hotel from an honest player | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
Money for blizzard and no hackers = everybody is happy  | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
Plus even if no one touches him, he's going to get harassed A LOT once people identify him. I'm definitely not encouraging it, but SOMEONE not in their right mind is going to do something. Which is why he needs to be banned from the event. | ||
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silentdecay01
United States106 Posts
Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world. Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss. Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol. | ||
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Chakoi
United Kingdom81 Posts
If this happened HE DESERVED this.. He also would know what would be ahead of him if he actually did go... This is one of the biggest community. I think we should march over to the sc2 forums : )) | ||
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 07 2012 03:30 VPFaith wrote: Hi ToiletCat, the blink hack is really prominent recently and was used by the fake oGsMC on American Ladder not long ago. AiRSirRobin has proven this hack in his game on Antiga Shipyard where oGsMC does not have any of his stalkers selected and yet was blinking damaged stalkers right before getting killed, with yet 600+ apms. Like I said, no protoss pro-gamer can have 600+ apms. And the only way to achieve 500+ apm (after the non-stop apm patch) is be play zerg and select 300 speedlings and morph them into banelings, then it's the only way to have 500 let alone 600+ apms. Also to note, in order to blink, you need to select individual stalkers... It's not humanely possible to blink stalkers that are not selected. And if anyone thinks they can blink injured stalkers without ever selecting them and have 600+ apm, please show it to me at MLG Anaheim. Thanks. I don't know why you're telling me this. I was amongst the first people to point this out, haha. Don't worry man, I know that the auto-Blink exists and I know of its functionality. No, I was just impressed by the coding, that's all. | ||
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DrunkeN.
United States406 Posts
Remember that ole video from WCG where Artosis said a known hacker qualified but never showed up so get a bye. | ||
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
On June 07 2012 04:19 mememolly wrote: zero problem? he is taking a plane seat and a hotel from an honest player Guess what: that's Blizzard's problem, not ours. THEY'RE spending the money. THEY get to decide who to send and who not to send. Nothing we say is going to make a difference. No amount of heckling, keyboard warrior rage, BM, or threats of physical violence is going to change the fact that Blizzard pays the fucking bills. Let me tell you how this is going to go down: 1. Zack arrives at the tournament 2. Zack gets beaten 3. Zack leaves the tournament How does that effect ANYONE else other than Zack and Blizzard? This hypothetical "honest player" doesn't exist, because he / she wasn't chosen. Most of us are honest players. That doesn't mean jack shit. | ||
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 07 2012 04:30 jeeeeohn wrote: Guess what: that's Blizzard's problem, not ours. THEY'RE spending the money. THEY get to decide who to send and who not to send. Nothing we say is going to make a difference. No amount of heckling, keyboard warrior rage, BM, or threats of physical violence is going to change the fact that Blizzard pays the fucking bills. Let me tell you how this is going to go down: 1. Zack arrives at the tournament 2. Zack gets beaten 3. Zack leaves the tournament How does that effect ANYONE else other than Zack and Blizzard? This hypothetical "honest player" doesn't exist, because he / she wasn't chosen. Most of us are honest players. That doesn't mean jack shit. Gee, I hope nobody gets hurt. Nerdbrawl! | ||
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Chakoi
United Kingdom81 Posts
On June 07 2012 04:30 jeeeeohn wrote: Guess what: that's Blizzard's problem, not ours. THEY'RE spending the money. THEY get to decide who to send and who not to send. Nothing we say is going to make a difference. No amount of heckling, keyboard warrior rage, BM, or threats of physical violence is going to change the fact that Blizzard pays the fucking bills. Let me tell you how this is going to go down: 1. Zack arrives at the tournament 2. Zack gets beaten 3. Zack leaves the tournament How does that effect ANYONE else other than Zack and Blizzard? This hypothetical "honest player" doesn't exist, because he / she wasn't chosen. Most of us are honest players. That doesn't mean jack shit. 1. Zack takes a opportunity away from a good player wanting to go professional. 2. Something may happen to zack because of the pathetic and sickness of how he even got a chance like this. (Not guarantee'd) 3. Blizzard is using money on a worthless piece of a player... A player that will 100% make it nowhere. 5 4. He is ruining generally ladder experience for others 5. He may probably play in other online tournaments and keep on cheating... which makes it unfair 6. Influence in others to do it as he can make it out safely and not even be punished by cheating What do you know... For those who want to take this professionally as a dream. It affects them alot because of players like this. | ||
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Kkxtrouble
Brazil575 Posts
In my opinion he should have to refund the tournament for his ticket/hotel and be banned from sc2, that and only that. | ||
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On June 07 2012 04:11 PowerDes wrote: The problem is he doesn't deserve a free trip to anaheim, where they are paying a large sum of money in travel/hotel expenses for someone who is illegitimately taking up a spot that so many people who tried to qualify through QUALIFIERS, not ladder, were unable to get. Not just that. It can simply ruin the esport scene as a whole. If that guy indeed goes to the event, more and more people will start to hack. Hell, at least you will win a free trip somewhere. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote: Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah. Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world. Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss. Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol. Absolute rubbish. The people writing SC2 hacks are not superior to any other competent programmer. And experiences programmers are no wasting their time writing SC2 hacks. If you spend even 10 minutes researching who created the best known SC2 hacks you will see that they are just students (as of the last time I checked, less than six months ago). There are at least a couple of very experienced programmers at Blizzard who could implement the best possible solutions if they were put to work on it. You may argue that the best possible solutions would not be good enough (Blizzard cannot be too invasive...damn web hippies), but any solution would be better than what we currently have. | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
hmm no that doesn't sound right. back to the chalk board. | ||
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