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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#701
On June 07 2012 01:51 roym899 wrote:
Well it's funny that there are no guys here saying this guy doesn't hack and this is no evidence like in the Spades hacking thread, because it's pretty much the same.


Your quite embarrassing if you don't think it's enough proof at this guy in this thread.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
June 06 2012 19:11 GMT
#702
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.

The problem is he doesn't deserve a free trip to anaheim, where they are paying a large sum of money in travel/hotel expenses for someone who is illegitimately taking up a spot that so many people who tried to qualify through QUALIFIERS, not ladder, were unable to get.
twitch.tv/PowerDes
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 06 2012 19:14 GMT
#703
The biggest problem is that this REALLY proves all those people wrong who have been claiming that Blizzard is just "collecting data" before the next big banwave hits.

If Blizz had had data on this guy they would have never, never, never invited him. So I guess they haven't been keeping track as well as we all thought they would have.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
June 06 2012 19:14 GMT
#704
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.


Your honestly blind to think no one at MLG is going to BM the living hell of him? Even with rumors of blizzard hiring security to protect him that won't stop anything and proves that blizzard doesn't care as that spot could have been given to someone more deserving and who'd actually have a chance. But no instead we have a hacker that will get destroyed thus making that spot useless. Lots have spoken up and said that this is actually really bad as it can potentially make sponsors reconsider sponsoring the scene.
Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 19:18:36
June 06 2012 19:16 GMT
#705
This will snowball into others who think that if he can get away by cheating and getting a $800 odd worth of a trip + hotel etc etc then most people will be influenced into doing the same... and it's going to be chaos.
People who spend hours every day practising and people who just cheat knock their chances in becoming or having a chance becoming good or even on their way of becoming professional.


Do you think this gives us sc2 + the sc2 game as a esports game a good look?
That blizzard lets cheaters on ladders and invite them to expenses of trips which they don't deserve....


This problem needs to be fixed or it's going to sink
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
June 06 2012 19:19 GMT
#706
Really Blizzard. Really? How the fuck can you not keep a hacker out of your own damn LAN... Irresponsible fucks.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 06 2012 19:19 GMT
#707
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.


zero problem? he is taking a plane seat and a hotel from an honest player
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
June 06 2012 19:20 GMT
#708
I still dont get it why Blizzard doesnt do shit about this. Its in their interest to ban the hackers no only from moral point of view but for financial gain because when they perma ban all the hackers almost all will buy the game again.

Money for blizzard and no hackers = everybody is happy

Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 06 2012 19:24 GMT
#709
I hope this guy will be okay. We're all aware of how passionate we are about witch hunts. With this showing up to the event in person, I'm kind of afraid for his safety. You think a group of nerds wouldn't touch him? People have died over CS, sure it was in China, but fuck sticking a knife through a guys skull because he walled hacked is waaaay over the line lol. Besides that people will generally fight because of trash talk online over games, I know it happened more often than it should for Dota.

Plus even if no one touches him, he's going to get harassed A LOT once people identify him. I'm definitely not encouraging it, but SOMEONE not in their right mind is going to do something. Which is why he needs to be banned from the event.
silentdecay01
Profile Joined February 2012
United States106 Posts
June 06 2012 19:27 GMT
#710
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.
Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 19:28:39
June 06 2012 19:27 GMT
#711
If he's ok?

If this happened HE DESERVED this.. He also would know what would be ahead of him if he actually did go...

This is one of the biggest community. I think we should march over to the sc2 forums : ))
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
toiletCAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Qatar284 Posts
June 06 2012 19:28 GMT
#712
On June 07 2012 03:30 VPFaith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 03:21 toiletCAT wrote:
On June 07 2012 03:11 zoid wrote:
That blink hacks... Only funny thing is the random stalker blinking out into the roaches in game 2 (probably becasue the badly coded blinkhack couldn't find space to blink away from the incoming fire due to his army being in the way.). Well, Blizzard, maybe it is time you hire a team of really talented programmers to dedicate themselves 100% time on anti hack...


I actually don't think you can code a hack to recognize incoming fire. I mean, don't fool yourself, let alone the fact that someone managed to code auto-recognization of low health and then trigger an event at the same time is beyond my knowledge of coding. It's like really, really sophisticated and the beginning of a new, more advanced era of hacking, I'm afraid.


Hi ToiletCat, the blink hack is really prominent recently and was used by the fake oGsMC on American Ladder not long ago. AiRSirRobin has proven this hack in his game on Antiga Shipyard where oGsMC does not have any of his stalkers selected and yet was blinking damaged stalkers right before getting killed, with yet 600+ apms. Like I said, no protoss pro-gamer can have 600+ apms. And the only way to achieve 500+ apm (after the non-stop apm patch) is be play zerg and select 300 speedlings and morph them into banelings, then it's the only way to have 500 let alone 600+ apms. Also to note, in order to blink, you need to select individual stalkers... It's not humanely possible to blink stalkers that are not selected.

And if anyone thinks they can blink injured stalkers without ever selecting them and have 600+ apm, please show it to me at MLG Anaheim. Thanks.


I don't know why you're telling me this. I was amongst the first people to point this out, haha. Don't worry man, I know that the auto-Blink exists and I know of its functionality. No, I was just impressed by the coding, that's all.
DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
June 06 2012 19:29 GMT
#713
Sooo hmmm is this guy even going to show up??

Remember that ole video from WCG where Artosis said a known hacker qualified but never showed up so get a bye.
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 19:31:06
June 06 2012 19:30 GMT
#714
On June 07 2012 04:19 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.


zero problem? he is taking a plane seat and a hotel from an honest player


Guess what: that's Blizzard's problem, not ours. THEY'RE spending the money. THEY get to decide who to send and who not to send. Nothing we say is going to make a difference. No amount of heckling, keyboard warrior rage, BM, or threats of physical violence is going to change the fact that Blizzard pays the fucking bills.

Let me tell you how this is going to go down:

1. Zack arrives at the tournament
2. Zack gets beaten
3. Zack leaves the tournament

How does that effect ANYONE else other than Zack and Blizzard? This hypothetical "honest player" doesn't exist, because he / she wasn't chosen. Most of us are honest players. That doesn't mean jack shit.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
toiletCAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Qatar284 Posts
June 06 2012 19:35 GMT
#715
On June 07 2012 04:30 jeeeeohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 04:19 mememolly wrote:
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.


zero problem? he is taking a plane seat and a hotel from an honest player


Guess what: that's Blizzard's problem, not ours. THEY'RE spending the money. THEY get to decide who to send and who not to send. Nothing we say is going to make a difference. No amount of heckling, keyboard warrior rage, BM, or threats of physical violence is going to change the fact that Blizzard pays the fucking bills.

Let me tell you how this is going to go down:

1. Zack arrives at the tournament
2. Zack gets beaten
3. Zack leaves the tournament

How does that effect ANYONE else other than Zack and Blizzard? This hypothetical "honest player" doesn't exist, because he / she wasn't chosen. Most of us are honest players. That doesn't mean jack shit.


Gee, I hope nobody gets hurt. Nerdbrawl!
Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
June 06 2012 19:35 GMT
#716
On June 07 2012 04:30 jeeeeohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 04:19 mememolly wrote:
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.


zero problem? he is taking a plane seat and a hotel from an honest player


Guess what: that's Blizzard's problem, not ours. THEY'RE spending the money. THEY get to decide who to send and who not to send. Nothing we say is going to make a difference. No amount of heckling, keyboard warrior rage, BM, or threats of physical violence is going to change the fact that Blizzard pays the fucking bills.

Let me tell you how this is going to go down:

1. Zack arrives at the tournament
2. Zack gets beaten
3. Zack leaves the tournament

How does that effect ANYONE else other than Zack and Blizzard? This hypothetical "honest player" doesn't exist, because he / she wasn't chosen. Most of us are honest players. That doesn't mean jack shit.


1. Zack takes a opportunity away from a good player wanting to go professional.
2. Something may happen to zack because of the pathetic and sickness of how he even got a chance like this. (Not guarantee'd)
3. Blizzard is using money on a worthless piece of a player... A player that will 100% make it nowhere. 5
4. He is ruining generally ladder experience for others
5. He may probably play in other online tournaments and keep on cheating... which makes it unfair
6. Influence in others to do it as he can make it out safely and not even be punished by cheating

What do you know... For those who want to take this professionally as a dream. It affects them alot because of players like this.
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
June 06 2012 19:35 GMT
#717
TL is very violent lately.
In my opinion he should have to refund the tournament for his ticket/hotel and be banned from sc2, that and only that.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
June 06 2012 19:39 GMT
#718
On June 07 2012 04:11 PowerDes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
ITT: people freaking out over NOTHING. Literally NOTHING.

Ball don't lie. The guy will go and get beaten and then he will leave. Zero controversy, zero problem. I just wish this thread would die. It serves no purpose.

The problem is he doesn't deserve a free trip to anaheim, where they are paying a large sum of money in travel/hotel expenses for someone who is illegitimately taking up a spot that so many people who tried to qualify through QUALIFIERS, not ladder, were unable to get.


Not just that. It can simply ruin the esport scene as a whole.
If that guy indeed goes to the event, more and more people will start to hack. Hell, at least you will win a free trip somewhere.
I've got moves like Jagger
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 19:41:20
June 06 2012 19:40 GMT
#719
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.


Absolute rubbish. The people writing SC2 hacks are not superior to any other competent programmer. And experiences programmers are no wasting their time writing SC2 hacks. If you spend even 10 minutes researching who created the best known SC2 hacks you will see that they are just students (as of the last time I checked, less than six months ago).

There are at least a couple of very experienced programmers at Blizzard who could implement the best possible solutions if they were put to work on it. You may argue that the best possible solutions would not be good enough (Blizzard cannot be too invasive...damn web hippies), but any solution would be better than what we currently have.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 19:43:44
June 06 2012 19:43 GMT
#720
Solution: We should have this guy play Spades, who ever wins, we forgive?
hmm no that doesn't sound right.
back to the chalk board.
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