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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On June 11 2015 05:45 zDreaM wrote:Lol... Believe, say what you say this replay is so blatant. You can have all the people in the world defending you, but seriously this one replay takes the cake. The GIF itself is pretty damning evidence no matter how you cut it.
LOL If one simple GIF of lucky blink defines someone a hacker then everyone can be a hacker.
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On June 11 2015 05:50 ItzShakti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:48 MorDka wrote:also he has his mothership on the natural ramp when the marines are coming to his base and he moves back the mothership core before seeing the marines. Looks like a cheater to me Thats what u do when u kill a reaper...... U back ur mothership core so he doesnt kill it with marine poke.
Well maybe you are right but he moves it back just exatctly when the marines go in, but when i saw the blink i laughed perfect timing again
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On June 11 2015 05:48 MorDka wrote:also he has his mothership on the natural ramp when the marines are coming to his base and he moves back the mothership core before seeing the marines. Looks like a cheater to me
He's patrolling his mamaship between 2 bases =_= how's that hacking =_=
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On June 11 2015 05:57 RivalHoney wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:48 MorDka wrote:also he has his mothership on the natural ramp when the marines are coming to his base and he moves back the mothership core before seeing the marines. Looks like a cheater to me He's patrolling his mamaship between 2 bases =_= how's that hacking =_=
I ment the 1st marine attack where his mothership stands still on the natural ramp
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On June 11 2015 05:47 IAmBelieve wrote:
So, a gif of someone blindly blinking and being lucky enough to catch a medivac is sure bulletproof evidence someone is a hacker? that's some interesting logic man...
Well could you please explain your reasoning behind that blink? It would help clear a lot of others skepticism about you.
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So I went to my friend who ques vs believe rly often and asked what he thought about this.
He showed me this replay:
http://drop.sc/400061
Nexus first vs reaper opening close positions then is completely caught out of position vs that marine followup.
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@duckk yes, if you see i was making a pylon with my probe, i blinked them down becasuse its allot faster to get near his base to do counter harass, if you watch the rest of the replays youll see that i do blink harass allot vs reaper opener, and i was just lucky enough that his med was there
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On May 17 2015 22:38 PiPiGranDe wrote:
Blatant MH and production tab hack in a 4 player map. Absolutely NO SCAN or Scout at all....
Builds perfect unit compo and just walks to my natural.
Server: America
Race: Terran
Name: Cheerio
User was warned for this post
I have a replay of this same Terran maphacking. (low-GM/high masters level)
http://drop.sc/400062
I decided to go for a roach rush on Iron Fortress, after scouting with an OL that he isn't opening reaper. With absolutely zero scouting info, he full walls his nat with 2 bunkers, rushes out a tank, and pulls scvs to his bunkers just before my roaches arrive (before he has any vision of any roaches). The game goes on further from here, but I didn't bother looking closely for any other signs that he was maphacking. If anyone finds any, feel free to let me know.
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I don't think he's hacking, think it's just a coincidence.
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On June 11 2015 04:29 EJK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 04:08 IAmBelieve wrote:Hey guys, just to clarify yes i can see how it looks fishy, but there is also luck, and i am not a hacker. To prove so I have uploaded 55 of my latest ladder games, anyone who has any spare time can see, and I've lost to some early pools on iron etc, you guys can be the judge for yourselves. replay pack of last 50-60 ladder games -> http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1917 he's not a hacker, i practice with him regularly, in the replay he had all the other positions covered with photon + observer coverage so it was safe for his stalkers to poke around there
I would like to know why he was blinking down there in the first place if he presumably isn't hacking here. If he was just sending the stalkers across the map to pressure then that's a pretty unnecessary route to take. And sure he had the natural covered with a photon overcharge and observer but he did not have the main covered if the medivac were to instead fly over the ledge into the main rather than directly over the 3rd base location. Also his next observer that was about to pop was directly rallied to his opponent so if the medivac were to fly over the ledge into the main he would have taken a lot of unnecessary damage.
Also practicing with someone regularly doesn't mean it's impossible that they're not a hacker. I'm sure Spades and Daisuke had people they practiced with regularly that had no idea they hacked.
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Played vs [TES] Believe a few times on both servers, don't think he ever did anything suspicious, seemed pretty legit. That was around the time he qualified for WCS as well. From the replay it seemed pretty standard PvT moves aside from the Stalker blink, but he did have vision everywhere else pretty much. Don't think this is enough evidence, seems more of a rant if anything.
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On June 11 2015 06:17 TheCreature wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 04:29 EJK wrote:On June 11 2015 04:08 IAmBelieve wrote:Hey guys, just to clarify yes i can see how it looks fishy, but there is also luck, and i am not a hacker. To prove so I have uploaded 55 of my latest ladder games, anyone who has any spare time can see, and I've lost to some early pools on iron etc, you guys can be the judge for yourselves. replay pack of last 50-60 ladder games -> http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1917 he's not a hacker, i practice with him regularly, in the replay he had all the other positions covered with photon + observer coverage so it was safe for his stalkers to poke around there I would like to know why he was blinking down there in the first place if he presumably isn't hacking here. If he was just sending the stalkers across the map to pressure then that's a pretty unnecessary route to take. And sure he had the natural covered with a photon overcharge and observer but he did not have the main covered if the medivac were to instead fly over the ledge into the main rather than directly over the 3rd base location. Also his next observer that was about to pop was directly rallied to his opponent so if the medivac were to fly over the ledge into the main he would have taken a lot of unnecessary damage. Also practicing with someone regularly doesn't mean it's impossible that they're not a hacker. I'm sure Spades and Daisuke had people they practiced with regularly that had no idea they hacked.
This is what I thought as well. Also if he was trying to go asap and not look for a drop wouldnt a protoss player shift click around the edge to blink? The way he blinks he sort of moves to the edge, moves forward a little more, and then blinks down as if to catch a drop and not go across the map.
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On June 11 2015 06:17 TheCreature wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 04:29 EJK wrote:On June 11 2015 04:08 IAmBelieve wrote:Hey guys, just to clarify yes i can see how it looks fishy, but there is also luck, and i am not a hacker. To prove so I have uploaded 55 of my latest ladder games, anyone who has any spare time can see, and I've lost to some early pools on iron etc, you guys can be the judge for yourselves. replay pack of last 50-60 ladder games -> http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1917 he's not a hacker, i practice with him regularly, in the replay he had all the other positions covered with photon + observer coverage so it was safe for his stalkers to poke around there I would like to know why he was blinking down there in the first place if he presumably isn't hacking here. If he was just sending the stalkers across the map to pressure then that's a pretty unnecessary route to take. And sure he had the natural covered with a photon overcharge and observer but he did not have the main covered if the medivac were to instead fly over the ledge into the main rather than directly over the 3rd base location. Also his next observer that was about to pop was directly rallied to his opponent so if the medivac were to fly over the ledge into the main he would have taken a lot of unnecessary damage. Also practicing with someone regularly doesn't mean it's impossible that they're not a hacker. I'm sure Spades and Daisuke had people they practiced with regularly that had no idea they hacked.
Like the last two points there.
And rivalhoney, nice new account made today man. Not suspect at all that you're defending believe.
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On June 11 2015 06:15 ROOTiaguz wrote:
I don't think he's hacking, think it's just a coincidence.
Same, hes not hacking for sure
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One thing that makes me think it is a coincidence is that such an action is so suspicious that a hacker would likely refrain from doing something so blatant as to draw attention to themselves... if they knew a medi was coming they would wait to pick it off, but this specific incident seems like it could be a consequence of aggressive army movement being allowed by proper defensive zoning.
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On June 11 2015 06:09 IAmBelieve wrote:
@duckk yes, if you see i was making a pylon with my probe, i blinked them down becasuse its allot faster to get near his base to do counter harass,
From where your stalkers were? No it's not. It's absolutely slower.
Without more replays with blatant things, though the consistency of the PvP counter tech choices are interesting, I'm not ready to jump on the 'you're hacking' bandwagon, but this is the WORST possible defense you could have chosen and makes me lean towards hacking more.
On June 11 2015 06:56 WhalesFromSpace wrote:
One thing that makes me think it is a coincidence is that such an action is so suspicious that a hacker would likely refrain from doing something so blatant as to draw attention to themselves... if they knew a medi was coming they would wait to pick it off, but this specific incident seems like it could be a consequence of aggressive army movement being allowed by proper defensive zoning.
Things like this is how hackers get caught. They do something without information that they should have sat on, but forget what they're reacting to isn't 'actually' seen yet. It's a slip up.
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On June 11 2015 06:34 iAmJeffReY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 06:17 TheCreature wrote:On June 11 2015 04:29 EJK wrote:On June 11 2015 04:08 IAmBelieve wrote:Hey guys, just to clarify yes i can see how it looks fishy, but there is also luck, and i am not a hacker. To prove so I have uploaded 55 of my latest ladder games, anyone who has any spare time can see, and I've lost to some early pools on iron etc, you guys can be the judge for yourselves. replay pack of last 50-60 ladder games -> http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1917 he's not a hacker, i practice with him regularly, in the replay he had all the other positions covered with photon + observer coverage so it was safe for his stalkers to poke around there I would like to know why he was blinking down there in the first place if he presumably isn't hacking here. If he was just sending the stalkers across the map to pressure then that's a pretty unnecessary route to take. And sure he had the natural covered with a photon overcharge and observer but he did not have the main covered if the medivac were to instead fly over the ledge into the main rather than directly over the 3rd base location. Also his next observer that was about to pop was directly rallied to his opponent so if the medivac were to fly over the ledge into the main he would have taken a lot of unnecessary damage. Also practicing with someone regularly doesn't mean it's impossible that they're not a hacker. I'm sure Spades and Daisuke had people they practiced with regularly that had no idea they hacked. Like the last two points there. And rivalhoney, nice new account made today man. Not suspect at all that you're defending believe.
LolOloL why I can't make an account to defend my friend? I just speak the truth. I don't need an account to read news from here until ppl started doing this
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Ok so my main account adnap2 has been banned for sending this replay of the hacker TES believe (in my opinion).
Thank you very much to teamliquid to support hackers.
Peace out. Im done with this website <3
ISIMBA adnap
User was banned for this post.
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I'm not a terran or a protoss player so obviously my PvT knowledge is limited, but just a small point I noticed regarding the believe replay
at 6:41 the terran has enough money to make his medivac from the starport, but he doesn't start it til 7:20.
Considering Believe was playing without scouting and trying to tailor his build to the TvP metagame of mine drop, wouldn't the terrans mistake of starting the medivac a whole 40 seconds late considerably fuck up the expected timing in which the mine drop would hit.
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Hacker name:[LTTB] Apple
Server:NA
League:TOP 50 GRANDMASTER
Description: No scout on my 3rd gold base and just attack there directly, and in the beginning of the game, his zealot was attacking my gas which built in his base, but when my lings were half way to his base, he just stop attack and went to hold the ramp.
http://drop.sc/400078
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