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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
GAMETIME301
Profile Joined February 2014
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 19:41:47
June 10 2015 19:31 GMT
#9661
Believe does not hack, I have played Plenty of games vs him. The reason he made that blink was because he opened blink and wanted the stalkers to go across the map as soon as possible to be as cost effective as could be with the units he invested in, If you watch any pro player, they are constantly active with blink stalkers throughout early-mid game, He also had obs in middle of map to see if a move out was coming (in the most common spot a move out would occur on Echo) which since he doesnt see a move out, adds a chance of drop potential to occur. He simply got lucky, and was looking to be aggressive and instead of going around and taking the long way, he blinked to save time and decrease the rush distance, he also warps in stalkers across map to pursue the aggressive style. Also, he makes multiple obs to get vision of the potential move outs, you only need maybe 1 for detection but thats about it, no hacker would make multiple obs. You can't call a player a hacker based off of 1 lucky blink.
JAF1
Profile Joined May 2015
6 Posts
June 10 2015 19:47 GMT
#9662
believe dont hack is just another isimba attack on the tes team
adnap2
Profile Joined December 2014
France26 Posts
June 10 2015 19:51 GMT
#9663
On June 11 2015 04:29 EJK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 04:08 IAmBelieve wrote:
Hey guys, just to clarify yes i can see how it looks fishy, but there is also luck, and i am not a hacker. To prove so I have uploaded 55 of my latest ladder games, anyone who has any spare time can see, and I've lost to some early pools on iron etc, you guys can be the judge for yourselves. replay pack of last 50-60 ladder games -> http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1917


he's not a hacker, i practice with him regularly, in the replay he had all the other positions covered with photon + observer coverage so it was safe for his stalkers to poke around there







He have 0 canon. So before talking, just watch the replay. I showed this replay to many people and they all agree about the cheat.
RivalHoney
Profile Joined June 2015
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 20:21:26
June 10 2015 20:04 GMT
#9664
Believe is not a hacker. U can't just call someone hacker based on 1 lucky blink. I've watched tons of his games, he constantly sends out his stalkers vs terran all over the map to scout for drops or so. And blink down from main is way faster than go down ur natural. If u still think he hacks ur very biased.
GAMETIME301
Profile Joined February 2014
United States8 Posts
June 10 2015 20:07 GMT
#9665
lol adnap2, photon meaning Overcharge mate
ItzShakti
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil43 Posts
June 10 2015 20:19 GMT
#9666
I am pretty sure that Believe doesnt hack.
In the replay posted, that lucky blink happened just as he was moving out to do harass(you can see that he moves out in the right timing to have his 7 stalkers at his proxy pylon right when he could warp more 2), so it was just random luck.
Also he played pretty safe, both with his build(fast second gate and late forges isnt the best way to play against mine drops) and with his units(waited till he had 2 obs and another one halfway done to even start moving out with his stalkers and had mscore + obs in range of both nexuses).
I really like apollo
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
June 10 2015 20:26 GMT
#9667
Believe does not hack i have played with him plenty of times and you also can't just call someone a hacker based on 1 lucky blink you need many outcomes like this from different games to rightfully accuse someone of being a hacker. I have also played and watched many games and he is always active with his stalkers on the map like this so it it quite clear he got lucky when he blinked forward. If you seriously think Believe hacks off this 1 blink then your very ignorant...
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duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#9668
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 20:30:52
June 10 2015 20:30 GMT
#9669
On June 11 2015 05:28 duckk wrote:
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.


lol wtf. show some screenshots? i also played believe many times and he gets caught off guard a lot. doubt he hacks but hey you can never be 100% sure
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
June 10 2015 20:32 GMT
#9670
On June 11 2015 05:28 duckk wrote:
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.

You have been banned before in this thread for making accusations without posting the "proof" you have. Could you do it this time actually?
RivalHoney
Profile Joined June 2015
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 20:33:02
June 10 2015 20:32 GMT
#9671
On June 11 2015 05:28 duckk wrote:
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.

This isn't wc3, and ur talking about something happened like 8 or 9 years ago. He does not play wc3 now. Why are u offensing him? Show evidence to us
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 10 2015 20:38 GMT
#9672
On June 11 2015 05:32 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 05:28 duckk wrote:
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.

You have been banned before in this thread for making accusations without posting the "proof" you have. Could you do it this time actually?


Several times actually. I said patchtoss hacks without proof and look what just happened, he gets caught hacking while streaming.

Honey it was a year ago when this happened well after he has been playing starcraft 2. Do you honestly believe he hacks in wc3 and plays sc2 legit? Even if you make that assumption why would you support someone who openly hacks in a similar game.

I have banned more players for cheating/hacking than any1 else in wc3/sc. If people prefer to ban me for not posting my "proof" and not listen when I tell them who cheats and who does not then so be it let them kill their own game they moderate. I independently research each person i accuse and am very accurate and good at catching them.
IAmBelieve
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada70 Posts
June 10 2015 20:38 GMT
#9673
Ducks, why are you spreading false info? i never ever asked you for anything, you've always just been really salty towards mean, id like it if you just stoped posting in stuff related to me in general, please and ty.
Follow me on twitter @BelieveSC2 / My stream at Twitch.tv/IAmBelieve !!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 10 2015 20:40 GMT
#9674
On June 11 2015 05:38 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 05:32 Hondelul wrote:
On June 11 2015 05:28 duckk wrote:
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.

You have been banned before in this thread for making accusations without posting the "proof" you have. Could you do it this time actually?


Several times actually. I said patchtoss hacks without proof and look what just happened, he gets caught hacking while streaming.

Honey it was a year ago when this happened well after he has been playing starcraft 2. Do you honestly believe he hacks in wc3 and plays sc2 legit? Even if you make that assumption why would you support someone who openly hacks in a similar game.

I have banned more players for cheating/hacking than any1 else in wc3/sc. If people prefer to ban me for not posting my "proof" and not listen when I tell them who cheats and who does not then so be it let them kill their own game they moderate. I independently research each person i accuse and am very accurate and good at catching them.

So, wait wait wait stop there. You research the players you are accusing but you don't want to share the full, accurate, damning details because... why?
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RivalHoney
Profile Joined June 2015
6 Posts
June 10 2015 20:43 GMT
#9675
On June 11 2015 05:38 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 05:32 Hondelul wrote:
On June 11 2015 05:28 duckk wrote:
While people are correct in that having a random lucky blink does not make someone a hacker, he practically begs me to 2v2 with him and refuses to play if i do not have zmap(maphack) on with him. So he does hack and you have no idea what you are talking about as he has admitted to me many times he hacks.

You have been banned before in this thread for making accusations without posting the "proof" you have. Could you do it this time actually?


Several times actually. I said patchtoss hacks without proof and look what just happened, he gets caught hacking while streaming.

Honey it was a year ago when this happened well after he has been playing starcraft 2. Do you honestly believe he hacks in wc3 and plays sc2 legit? Even if you make that assumption why would you support someone who openly hacks in a similar game.

I have banned more players for cheating/hacking than any1 else in wc3/sc. If people prefer to ban me for not posting my "proof" and not listen when I tell them who cheats and who does not then so be it let them kill their own game they moderate. I independently research each person i accuse and am very accurate and good at catching them.


I dunno if he ever "begged" u for anything but we are irl friends for years. Nobody knows him better than me I can say that. Hes been maining sc2 for over 3 years. I dont see a point he "begs" u to plsy wc3. Even u were right about patchtoss, id say u were lucky? plz prove evidence or stop posting. And tyvm.
zDreaM
Profile Joined June 2010
United States16 Posts
June 10 2015 20:45 GMT
#9676
On June 10 2015 20:19 Adnap wrote:
Hacker name: TES Believe
Protoss
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4697733/1/Believe/
EU
In many stages of the game he does fishy things, but when he sniped my drop I became sure he is hacking. He had no vision, he just blinked in dark on my drop ship, @ 9th min.
http://drop.sc/400041



Lol...

Believe, say what you say this replay is so blatant. You can have all the people in the world defending you, but seriously this one replay takes the cake.

The GIF itself is pretty damning evidence no matter how you cut it.
Losing game? Make infestors.
IAmBelieve
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada70 Posts
June 10 2015 20:47 GMT
#9677
So, a gif of someone blindly blinking and being lucky enough to catch a medivac is sure bulletproof evidence someone is a hacker? that's some interesting logic man...
Follow me on twitter @BelieveSC2 / My stream at Twitch.tv/IAmBelieve !!!
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
June 10 2015 20:48 GMT
#9678
On June 10 2015 20:19 Adnap wrote:
Hacker name: TES Believe
Protoss
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4697733/1/Believe/
EU
In many stages of the game he does fishy things, but when he sniped my drop I became sure he is hacking. He had no vision, he just blinked in dark on my drop ship, @ 9th min.
http://drop.sc/400041

also he has his mothership on the natural ramp when the marines are coming to his base and he moves back the mothership core before seeing the marines. Looks like a cheater to me
ItzShakti
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil43 Posts
June 10 2015 20:50 GMT
#9679
On June 11 2015 05:48 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 20:19 Adnap wrote:
Hacker name: TES Believe
Protoss
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4697733/1/Believe/
EU
In many stages of the game he does fishy things, but when he sniped my drop I became sure he is hacking. He had no vision, he just blinked in dark on my drop ship, @ 9th min.
http://drop.sc/400041

also he has his mothership on the natural ramp when the marines are coming to his base and he moves back the mothership core before seeing the marines. Looks like a cheater to me


Thats what u do when u kill a reaper......
U back ur mothership core so he doesnt kill it with marine poke.
I really like apollo
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
June 10 2015 20:50 GMT
#9680
From the Believe replay pack.

Tech choices in all the PvP I checked:
echo 297 - opponent: stargate, believe: twilight
coda 387 - opponent: twilight, believe: robo expand
(echo 292 - proxygates)
vaani 357 - opponent: stargate, twilight, believe: stargate, robo
(vaani 340 - proxygates)
vaani 342 - opponent: stargate, believe: twilight

In all non-proxygate games opponent chose his tech first.


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