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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
ShaDoWn
Profile Joined January 2014
France2 Posts
September 23 2014 21:03 GMT
#8321
Hacker name : Shadye
Serveur : EU
League : Master

0 scout a move proxy stargat with SCV for bumker. Watch my base in fog.

http://drop.sc/386430
rekterino
Profile Joined September 2014
5 Posts
September 27 2014 14:59 GMT
#8322
Hacker name [NDGame]Kellerman
Server: NA
League: Grandmaster


goes for a blink build but cancels it without any scout because somehow sees my bunkers.

http://drop.sc/386506
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2014 15:10 GMT
#8323
On September 27 2014 23:59 rekterino wrote:
Hacker name [NDGame]Kellerman
Server: NA
League: Grandmaster


goes for a blink build but cancels it without any scout because somehow sees my bunkers.

http://drop.sc/386506

Not suspicious at all. He only made a few stalkers and did pressure with them. I'm sort of impressed by your ability to somehow intercept the army just about every time, and blindly build/salvage bunkers without knowing what's happening.
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TL+ Member
Nogard
Profile Joined July 2011
Italy40 Posts
September 27 2014 19:20 GMT
#8324
Hacker name: Shadye
Server: EU
League: Master
I saw already some reports of this guy. I met him on ladder just now. I think adding a replay doesn't hurt.
http://drop.sc/386510

His unit managent and build make no sense to me, but the game is pretty straight up.
-StrifeX-
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 02:33:31
September 27 2014 19:49 GMT
#8325
In Response to Rekterino who link this thread to me on b.net....

I just watch this replay a little bit...Rekterino you randomly back 4 marines up with no sight (heading to probe obviously) but without vision move your 4 marines back up to 3rd until other army randomly position at 3rd just in time (luck possibly with army position) but moving 4 marines back to wait for them when heading to right side obviously I wouldn't add up..It makes me wonder if you're the one actually maphacking....you don't scan you don't scout...you build 2 bunkers in perfect place vs blink all-in cancel them without scouting.. He only made few gateways he had no intentions of all-ining from the looks of it only being able blink in and out to scout and use defensively...if he was going all-in with blink he would have did it on much higher gate count.. He never canceled the Blink, did you seriously not even look at the replay??? there wasn't even any intentions of blink all-in...aggression maybe but gate count is rather low...

But your play in several movements blindly setting up constantly...with no towers, scouting, or scans would be more questionable than this...how did you know to take earlier 3rd, how did you know make 2 bunkers in perfect placement vs blink all-in (even though it wasn't). how did you know he was going to your 3rd and pull back 4 marines heading to bottom right at exact same time he heading to you with several stalkers to scout if you had a 3rd (your low apm avg, but click a lot in panic at this time)... I mean is that normal???

you get the probe but never check for pylons even in that area with 1 marine or anything.. totally abandon search after going straight to the probe to kill it. (killing probe and spot killed it good, but when see that most anyone going search for pylons near that area)

Blind double starport after 1st collsi is making and skip medivacs all together at the start to make Vikings (once again no scans or scouting to justify what opponent is doing)... Randomly position to right again...click your units and move towards him before stalkers are even in view (once again blindly)

11:19 You look into the fog of war in a spot in middle of no where basically...un check your vision your on top of a colossus and you send your first 2 Vikings straight to it, even sit in that position for a bit. looks like moving army with minimap trying head straight to the colossus to make sure you kill it.


Guys please watch this replay of rekterino and list him as the maphacker... I agree with The_Templar I think it's more of Rekterino maphacking instead of Kellerman.


Before you accuse one of my players of maphacking at least explain to me why we should not be accusing you with this replay? I would love for someone to review this replay and see if you think same thing as me.

EDIT:::

Rekterino openly admitted to me several minutes ago on battle.net that he does in fact use maphack, and said Kellerman does to. Not sure why someone who is a maphacker would admit to it and also say other person is using it also?

Reported it to his team leader...obviously doesn't care so guess the team accepts maphackers, owner was actually really rude (if it's not the same person) he was top GM so makes me suspect if he's protecting him blindly if he maphacks also

Leader: [D9CBD] MaGiCaL
Player Reporting / suspected hacker now: [D9CBD] Rekterino
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
September 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#8326
On September 27 2014 23:59 rekterino wrote:
Hacker name [NDGame]Kellerman
Server: NA
League: Grandmaster


goes for a blink build but cancels it without any scout because somehow sees my bunkers.

http://drop.sc/386506



roflmao, this is indeed a great example for maphack. but the maphacker is...you.
no scouting the whole game, no vision at all but allways in the right position to intercept blinkstalkers.
funniest moment: 11:30 "if i send 2 vikings to the left now, maybe i find a single collossus".
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
DGUSpectre
Profile Joined November 2013
United States10 Posts
September 28 2014 02:00 GMT
#8327
Kellerman is no more a maphacker than I am.
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present.
rekterino
Profile Joined September 2014
5 Posts
September 28 2014 06:16 GMT
#8328
Kellerman is a hacker, you heard it here first
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
September 28 2014 08:30 GMT
#8329
On September 28 2014 15:16 rekterino wrote:
Kellerman is a hacker, you heard it here first



I love people like you : "uh the guy is hacking, I can tell cause, you know, well... I m hacking too"

It's common among people who don't respect the law to assume that other don't either. Some criminal even go to the point of accusing innocent people for the same kind of crimes they're doing everyday (dealers accusing their neighbours of dealing drugs, people that don'tpay their taxes and report their brother in law to the administration, ...) : they report the police and are scandalized when police does nothing.

As crazy as it sounds, these things do happen.

Even if sc2 apparently
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:01:10
September 28 2014 08:40 GMT
#8330
Hacker name: [D9CBD] Rekterino
Server: NA
League: Master

http://drop.sc/386506

I apologise in advance for the length of this post, but the evidence is better illustrated with screenshots from the game.

Just to consolidate the points that previous posters have made (from the POV of Rekterino):

Rekterino opens with 1 rax fe -> 3 rax

6:50 - no scouting thus far, yet Rekterino makes two bunkers at his natural. From the positioning of the bunkers, the intention is to hold off a potential blink stalker all-in.

8:10 - still no scouting yet Rekterino salvages his bunkers. Presumably, he must have thought there was no possibility of an attack or that his army was strong enough to handle an attack. In an ordinary blink all-in game, the attack hits ~20 seconds later, so it is a bit strange that he would salvage the bunkers now.

It might also make sense for him to cancel the bunkers if he maybe just completed stim / shields / got medivacs, but stim is in fact 50 seconds away, shields 100 seconds away and medivacs 2 minutes away. At his level, it's a big gamble salvaging the bunkers.

Rekterino then goes for a 3rd CC on location.

8:40 - Rekterino a-moves his units slightly forward to intercept a stalker army is moving up his ramp. This is in spite of the stalkers being in the fog of war. What's impressive about this move is that he a-moves on the minimap (i.e. blindly).

http://i.imgur.com/UJaB2dz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/b4T9Ses.jpg

8:45 - Rekterino takes 4 marines and a-moves them towards the location where a probe is hidden. Self-explanatory.

http://i.imgur.com/zgb4VES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v7SMS7d.jpg

9:05 - Yet, Rekterino abruptly pulls back the 4 marines as the stalker army approaches. That isn't all - he even moves the rest of his army from the natural towards the third to defend against the impending attack. Perhaps, the excuse is that he's merely trying to check for proxy pylons at his third, but why then would he have simply split his marines to look for things at both locations? And why would he need to move his whole army across to his third? Weak evidence but still a part of it.

http://i.imgur.com/kTfRew0.jpg

9:11 - Rekterino a-moves into the fog of war, milliseconds after the first few stalkers appear. A combination of brilliant guesswork (as to where the army was) and lightning-fast reaction time?

11:17 - Rekterino looks directly at the fog of war at the top left corner of the map where a stray colossus is. He a-moves a bunch of vikings to meet the colossus. Perhaps Kellerman was baiting the reaction by randomly moving his colossus around to a vulnerable area. In any case, the move from Rekterino makes no sense in an ordinary, fair game. This is the most incriminating evidence.

http://i.imgur.com/soFajwW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/98iJ0iL.jpg

11:50 - Rekterino builds his first set of medivacs from double starports, after building 4 vikings at the start. Though it isn't part of the proof of his maphacking, it is remarkable that he would do this from having zero scouting information since he has no idea if Kellerman is going for a colossus based army.


Other trivia:
- Rekterino never scouts for the entire game. No SCV scout, no scans, no drops
- Rekterino actually does not hotkey his army
Year of MaxPax
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
September 28 2014 08:47 GMT
#8331
I decided to take a look at the Rekterino vs Kellerman and I found this thing really amusing: Album that can prove who the map hacker is
It looks like the guy reporting a hacker is the one showing suspicious actions in his playstyle making me believe that we need to look into his match history,
In order to close this case what I ask is: Both clan leaders to post 5-6 replays of the players that were played before this game so people can look into those and close this case. I lean towards Rekterino being the hacker here and Kellerman being innocent.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
rekterino
Profile Joined September 2014
5 Posts
September 28 2014 10:44 GMT
#8332
hacker: [pXo] Nova
server: Na
league: master

goes for dt/warp prism. stays outside my base with warp prism loaded with dts because somehow knows i have turrets


http://drop.sc/386523
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
September 28 2014 11:13 GMT
#8333
On September 28 2014 19:44 rekterino wrote:
hacker: [pXo] Nova
server: Na
league: master

goes for dt/warp prism. stays outside my base with warp prism loaded with dts because somehow knows i have turrets


http://drop.sc/386523


you have no clue about this game at all. i´m not going to comment your bs anymore.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
Expertis
Profile Joined September 2014
France4 Posts
September 28 2014 11:19 GMT
#8334
On September 28 2014 19:44 rekterino wrote:
hacker: [pXo] Nova
server: Na
league: master

goes for dt/warp prism. stays outside my base with warp prism loaded with dts because somehow knows i have turrets


http://drop.sc/386523


Dude why the fuck are u reporting everyone u 'think' maphacks when ur a pathetic lil maphacker urself I watched replay lmao and he had zealot at tower and he was probally waiting till u move out but a pathetic lil hacker like u wouldnt move out and has to make 2 vikings cause u knew the warp prism there. This guy is just pathetic...
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
September 28 2014 11:29 GMT
#8335
On September 28 2014 19:44 rekterino wrote:
hacker: [pXo] Nova
server: Na
league: master

goes for dt/warp prism. stays outside my base with warp prism loaded with dts because somehow knows i have turrets


http://drop.sc/386523

I am guessing you are now just trolling the thread, easily can see that you see into fog of war positioning your marines to defend from the warp prism without any vision. (8:00 - 9:30)
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 28 2014 12:34 GMT
#8336
On September 28 2014 19:44 rekterino wrote:
hacker: [pXo] Nova
server: Na
league: master

goes for dt/warp prism. stays outside my base with warp prism loaded with dts because somehow knows i have turrets


http://drop.sc/386523

I've never done a really in-depth analyzation of a replay for hacking but in your case it's really obvious.
7:50 You build a turret on the edge of your main, without knowing anything is coming. You also made blind turrets in your main and natural mineral lines and a bunker at your front.

8:20 As the warp prism is about to get into your main, you send a bunch of marines towards the edge of your main.

9:05 The warp prism goes to the very edge of the map, you send your marines to the right for no apparent reason at all.

10:05 Your vikings finish and you immediately send them right towards the warp prism.

11:00 You finish your first two medivacs and since there are no colossi on the way, you get two more medivacs.

11:10 You send your army to his base, and you still haven't scouted where he is yet.

11:20 Blind ghost academy. You're still not producing any more vikings to deal with potential colossi.

11:45 You scan his natural and he happens to be there. This is probably to give you an excuse to see what his army composition is.

12:20 You don't try to pressure his third base despite not knowing if it exists. Just so happens that it's not there.

13:10 Even your opponent knows you're maphacking lol

End game chat: You admit you're hacking.
LOL
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TL+ Member
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 12:36:44
September 28 2014 12:36 GMT
#8337
On September 28 2014 17:40 sudete wrote:
Hacker name: [D9CBD] Rekterino
Server: NA
League: Master

http://drop.sc/386506

I apologise in advance for the length of this post, but the evidence is better illustrated with screenshots from the game.

Just to consolidate the points that previous posters have made (from the POV of Rekterino):

Rekterino opens with 1 rax fe -> 3 rax

6:50 - no scouting thus far, yet Rekterino makes two bunkers at his natural. From the positioning of the bunkers, the intention is to hold off a potential blink stalker all-in.

8:10 - still no scouting yet Rekterino salvages his bunkers. Presumably, he must have thought there was no possibility of an attack or that his army was strong enough to handle an attack. In an ordinary blink all-in game, the attack hits ~20 seconds later, so it is a bit strange that he would salvage the bunkers now.

It might also make sense for him to cancel the bunkers if he maybe just completed stim / shields / got medivacs, but stim is in fact 50 seconds away, shields 100 seconds away and medivacs 2 minutes away. At his level, it's a big gamble salvaging the bunkers.

Rekterino then goes for a 3rd CC on location.

8:40 - Rekterino a-moves his units slightly forward to intercept a stalker army is moving up his ramp. This is in spite of the stalkers being in the fog of war. What's impressive about this move is that he a-moves on the minimap (i.e. blindly).

http://i.imgur.com/UJaB2dz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/b4T9Ses.jpg

8:45 - Rekterino takes 4 marines and a-moves them towards the location where a probe is hidden. Self-explanatory.

http://i.imgur.com/zgb4VES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v7SMS7d.jpg

9:05 - Yet, Rekterino abruptly pulls back the 4 marines as the stalker army approaches. That isn't all - he even moves the rest of his army from the natural towards the third to defend against the impending attack. Perhaps, the excuse is that he's merely trying to check for proxy pylons at his third, but why then would he have simply split his marines to look for things at both locations? And why would he need to move his whole army across to his third? Weak evidence but still a part of it.

http://i.imgur.com/kTfRew0.jpg

9:11 - Rekterino a-moves into the fog of war, milliseconds after the first few stalkers appear. A combination of brilliant guesswork (as to where the army was) and lightning-fast reaction time?

11:17 - Rekterino looks directly at the fog of war at the top left corner of the map where a stray colossus is. He a-moves a bunch of vikings to meet the colossus. Perhaps Kellerman was baiting the reaction by randomly moving his colossus around to a vulnerable area. In any case, the move from Rekterino makes no sense in an ordinary, fair game. This is the most incriminating evidence.

http://i.imgur.com/soFajwW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/98iJ0iL.jpg

11:50 - Rekterino builds his first set of medivacs from double starports, after building 4 vikings at the start. Though it isn't part of the proof of his maphacking, it is remarkable that he would do this from having zero scouting information since he has no idea if Kellerman is going for a colossus based army.


Other trivia:
- Rekterino never scouts for the entire game. No SCV scout, no scans, no drops
- Rekterino actually does not hotkey his army



Ok just met this fu cking hacker [D9CBD]Rekterino. This is so obvious map hacking. Watch how he pull scv to his bunker when he dont even see my moving my colo army towards the mid. Then send them back when i pull back. When he move out I sent my Zealots to his natural and perfect response while pulling back lol. I see everything with my obs. I can guarantee you this fuc ker is 100% map hacking.

Do take note his marine searching for my probe at the beginning. Hes just faking it.

Replay: http://drop.sc/386525
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
September 28 2014 12:39 GMT
#8338
On September 28 2014 15:16 rekterino wrote:
Kellerman is a hacker, you heard it here first


Lol the hacker here is calling other people hackers. Admin please ban this account and IP.

REPORTED
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
September 28 2014 12:40 GMT
#8339
Nerffy reporting legit players in a hacking thread when hes hacking himself. Oh the irony. Is there a way to ip ban on teamliquid so he can never post again? This is the definition of cancer to the community lol.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 12:41:34
September 28 2014 12:40 GMT
#8340
On September 28 2014 20:19 Expertis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 19:44 rekterino wrote:
hacker: [pXo] Nova
server: Na
league: master

goes for dt/warp prism. stays outside my base with warp prism loaded with dts because somehow knows i have turrets


http://drop.sc/386523


Dude why the fuck are u reporting everyone u 'think' maphacks when ur a pathetic lil maphacker urself I watched replay lmao and he had zealot at tower and he was probally waiting till u move out but a pathetic lil hacker like u wouldnt move out and has to make 2 vikings cause u knew the warp prism there. This guy is just pathetic...


He'll be banned soon at least from the forum hopefully, just like imbatoss, lionheart and others.
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