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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On September 29 2014 09:37 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:05 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:Hall of Fame hacker here: http://drop.sc/386546Hacker name: JackRallY Server: NA League: Diamond Description: I know its just a diamond, but this is a must. Never seen anything like it. Unbelievable. The highlight - I move my observer out, he responds my sending a DT to it, thinking its a unit. When he realizes, he send his obs and 1 phoenix to kill it. I mean... you guys have to see this. Watch the whole thing and I dare you not to laugh. Haha… this is so obvious. 2:00ish: Looks at your base. 3:10 Rallies the gateway to your hidden probe. 4:00ish: Builds a blind robo despite going twilight tech, obviously to make an observer. 7:20 looks at your base in fog 7:25 looks at your twilight council as it starts charge. 6:30-8:00 keeps building tech/expo right after you do (nexus, charge, robo bay). Seems legit. 8:25 sends observer right to the hidden probe, even spam clicks it. 11:00 looks at your expansion 13:00 sends the entire army after the hidden probe in the same position. 14:25 So he blindly built a second robo after you started pumping out colossi. Now that you're getting a stargate, he just throws down two of them, wtf? 16:00 you are about to send another probe to the same location as 8:25 and 13:00, he warps in a DT to intercept it. 19:14ish you are sending your probe to a completely different location, he warps in a DT to intercept it. 22:45 he starts cannon rushing the middle. What. 23:40ish the DT incident you mention. 24:10 he picks off a stray pylon and immediately backs off. 25:15 he decides to randomly attack right after you move out with your army. 25:45 he backs off as your army is coming back.
The first time he saw my probe after I placed the Dark Shrine was not that bad. He saw the probe and no base, so I can believe if he scouted around. But then it gets hilarious... 
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On September 29 2014 10:05 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:37 The_Templar wrote:On September 29 2014 09:05 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:Hall of Fame hacker here: http://drop.sc/386546Hacker name: JackRallY Server: NA League: Diamond Description: I know its just a diamond, but this is a must. Never seen anything like it. Unbelievable. The highlight - I move my observer out, he responds my sending a DT to it, thinking its a unit. When he realizes, he send his obs and 1 phoenix to kill it. I mean... you guys have to see this. Watch the whole thing and I dare you not to laugh. Haha… this is so obvious. 2:00ish: Looks at your base. 3:10 Rallies the gateway to your hidden probe. 4:00ish: Builds a blind robo despite going twilight tech, obviously to make an observer. 7:20 looks at your base in fog 7:25 looks at your twilight council as it starts charge. 6:30-8:00 keeps building tech/expo right after you do (nexus, charge, robo bay). Seems legit. 8:25 sends observer right to the hidden probe, even spam clicks it. 11:00 looks at your expansion 13:00 sends the entire army after the hidden probe in the same position. 14:25 So he blindly built a second robo after you started pumping out colossi. Now that you're getting a stargate, he just throws down two of them, wtf? 16:00 you are about to send another probe to the same location as 8:25 and 13:00, he warps in a DT to intercept it. 19:14ish you are sending your probe to a completely different location, he warps in a DT to intercept it. 22:45 he starts cannon rushing the middle. What. 23:40ish the DT incident you mention. 24:10 he picks off a stray pylon and immediately backs off. 25:15 he decides to randomly attack right after you move out with your army. 25:45 he backs off as your army is coming back. The first time he saw my probe after I placed the Dark Shrine was not that bad. He saw the probe and no base, so I can believe if he scouted around. But then it gets hilarious...
Well, the thing is that he rallied over to the back of that base way before seeing anything. In fact, he rallied it right on top of the probe. Nobody would ever rally their gateway like that unless they knew about something being there.
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On September 29 2014 09:43 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 04:54 duckk wrote:On September 29 2014 00:38 playa wrote:On September 29 2014 00:23 TheFlexN wrote:On September 29 2014 00:09 playa wrote:
I don't think he should have been banned on here... unless you're talking about blatant hackers, what he said is largely true. If Blizzard can't allow you to not play against them, at least give them the chance to contribute something... even if they were wrong. Now they can offer nothing. Could you explain? because all he did was posting replays of him maphacking against people that werent maphacking. Yeah, sure. It's pretty easy to imagine that if two people are hacking, then the odds of them being able to identify each other as hackers is going to be far greater than a legit player versus a maphacker who is trying to not be blatant. Kellerman might not be hacking, but the idea is highlighted, still. If that is a typical move of someone hacking, then how many legit players could even draw suspicion to it? Not all of us watch our replays, and, even if we do, we're probably more interested in how we can improve than whether someone was acting on information they shouldn't have had. Usually they have to be pretty blatant, like the barcode toss on team Ascension who doesn't scout on 4 player maps. Who just magically counters everything and goes to attack you without scouting where your base is. And even then people are dubious. So, personally, I'd like to hear who hackers think are hacking. I imagine, generally, that games between hackers would further highlight that they aren't playing legit. If you don't allow hackers to post their games, then you probably eliminate the pool of games that are most suspicious. Hackers accuse everyone of hacking so I am not sure they are the best at finding hackers. Fun fact, If somebody accuses someone else of hacking (who is not actually hacking) then there is a ~85% chance that player is hacking(obvious exceptions are skilless clueless joke of players like avilo) Legit players are far better at finding hackers. There is a huge gap in hacker's macro/micro compared to their scouting. Then you have the skilled players who get tired of playing hackers and download it themselves and there is not a disparity between their skill and "perfect" scouting. This is where you catch them via their army movements. When playing someone like this who you suspect of hacking it is best to do unorthodox things like take a early random hidden base and see how they react. Please keep the useless discussion out of this thread, this thread is for reporting people. Not to mention Avilo is GM, has more knowledge than random low league players like yourself who use blind hate on the guy because the sheep crowd does it. Most people Avilo plays are the same hackers that Incontrol reports as well, so yes, he is a target for majority of NA hackers to snipe him to get a rise out of him. Anyways, can you take your made up statistics and hate for streamers featured on team liquid to a blog or something? Last few pages have been nothing but useless flames, this thread again is only for reporting potential map hackers and to have people look at the replays thanks.
Oh please, I am top 100 GM on korea, and have been working with Blizzard since wc3 in reporting and banning hackers. IMO, any discussion/input into how hackers act is relevant to this thread. If the mods feel otherwise then I guess not. Incontrol and avilo are not the people you want to look at for hacker reports as they are paranoid as hell from being stream sniped numerous times. But hey your post was much more on topic.
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On September 29 2014 10:18 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:43 LingBlingBling wrote:On September 29 2014 04:54 duckk wrote:On September 29 2014 00:38 playa wrote:On September 29 2014 00:23 TheFlexN wrote:On September 29 2014 00:09 playa wrote:
I don't think he should have been banned on here... unless you're talking about blatant hackers, what he said is largely true. If Blizzard can't allow you to not play against them, at least give them the chance to contribute something... even if they were wrong. Now they can offer nothing. Could you explain? because all he did was posting replays of him maphacking against people that werent maphacking. Yeah, sure. It's pretty easy to imagine that if two people are hacking, then the odds of them being able to identify each other as hackers is going to be far greater than a legit player versus a maphacker who is trying to not be blatant. Kellerman might not be hacking, but the idea is highlighted, still. If that is a typical move of someone hacking, then how many legit players could even draw suspicion to it? Not all of us watch our replays, and, even if we do, we're probably more interested in how we can improve than whether someone was acting on information they shouldn't have had. Usually they have to be pretty blatant, like the barcode toss on team Ascension who doesn't scout on 4 player maps. Who just magically counters everything and goes to attack you without scouting where your base is. And even then people are dubious. So, personally, I'd like to hear who hackers think are hacking. I imagine, generally, that games between hackers would further highlight that they aren't playing legit. If you don't allow hackers to post their games, then you probably eliminate the pool of games that are most suspicious. Hackers accuse everyone of hacking so I am not sure they are the best at finding hackers. Fun fact, If somebody accuses someone else of hacking (who is not actually hacking) then there is a ~85% chance that player is hacking(obvious exceptions are skilless clueless joke of players like avilo) Legit players are far better at finding hackers. There is a huge gap in hacker's macro/micro compared to their scouting. Then you have the skilled players who get tired of playing hackers and download it themselves and there is not a disparity between their skill and "perfect" scouting. This is where you catch them via their army movements. When playing someone like this who you suspect of hacking it is best to do unorthodox things like take a early random hidden base and see how they react. Please keep the useless discussion out of this thread, this thread is for reporting people. Not to mention Avilo is GM, has more knowledge than random low league players like yourself who use blind hate on the guy because the sheep crowd does it. Most people Avilo plays are the same hackers that Incontrol reports as well, so yes, he is a target for majority of NA hackers to snipe him to get a rise out of him. Anyways, can you take your made up statistics and hate for streamers featured on team liquid to a blog or something? Last few pages have been nothing but useless flames, this thread again is only for reporting potential map hackers and to have people look at the replays thanks. Oh please, I am top 100 GM on korea, and have been working with Blizzard since wc3 in reporting and banning hackers. IMO, any discussion/input into how hackers act is relevant to this thread. If the mods feel otherwise then I guess not. Incontrol and avilo are not the people you want to look at for hacker reports as they are paranoid as hell from being stream sniped numerous times. But hey your post was much more on topic.
Do you still work with blizzard, and if so, are they currently doing anything about maphackers being reported in this thread?
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On September 29 2014 10:21 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 10:18 duckk wrote:On September 29 2014 09:43 LingBlingBling wrote:On September 29 2014 04:54 duckk wrote:On September 29 2014 00:38 playa wrote:On September 29 2014 00:23 TheFlexN wrote:On September 29 2014 00:09 playa wrote:
I don't think he should have been banned on here... unless you're talking about blatant hackers, what he said is largely true. If Blizzard can't allow you to not play against them, at least give them the chance to contribute something... even if they were wrong. Now they can offer nothing. Could you explain? because all he did was posting replays of him maphacking against people that werent maphacking. Yeah, sure. It's pretty easy to imagine that if two people are hacking, then the odds of them being able to identify each other as hackers is going to be far greater than a legit player versus a maphacker who is trying to not be blatant. Kellerman might not be hacking, but the idea is highlighted, still. If that is a typical move of someone hacking, then how many legit players could even draw suspicion to it? Not all of us watch our replays, and, even if we do, we're probably more interested in how we can improve than whether someone was acting on information they shouldn't have had. Usually they have to be pretty blatant, like the barcode toss on team Ascension who doesn't scout on 4 player maps. Who just magically counters everything and goes to attack you without scouting where your base is. And even then people are dubious. So, personally, I'd like to hear who hackers think are hacking. I imagine, generally, that games between hackers would further highlight that they aren't playing legit. If you don't allow hackers to post their games, then you probably eliminate the pool of games that are most suspicious. Hackers accuse everyone of hacking so I am not sure they are the best at finding hackers. Fun fact, If somebody accuses someone else of hacking (who is not actually hacking) then there is a ~85% chance that player is hacking(obvious exceptions are skilless clueless joke of players like avilo) Legit players are far better at finding hackers. There is a huge gap in hacker's macro/micro compared to their scouting. Then you have the skilled players who get tired of playing hackers and download it themselves and there is not a disparity between their skill and "perfect" scouting. This is where you catch them via their army movements. When playing someone like this who you suspect of hacking it is best to do unorthodox things like take a early random hidden base and see how they react. Please keep the useless discussion out of this thread, this thread is for reporting people. Not to mention Avilo is GM, has more knowledge than random low league players like yourself who use blind hate on the guy because the sheep crowd does it. Most people Avilo plays are the same hackers that Incontrol reports as well, so yes, he is a target for majority of NA hackers to snipe him to get a rise out of him. Anyways, can you take your made up statistics and hate for streamers featured on team liquid to a blog or something? Last few pages have been nothing but useless flames, this thread again is only for reporting potential map hackers and to have people look at the replays thanks. Oh please, I am top 100 GM on korea, and have been working with Blizzard since wc3 in reporting and banning hackers. IMO, any discussion/input into how hackers act is relevant to this thread. If the mods feel otherwise then I guess not. Incontrol and avilo are not the people you want to look at for hacker reports as they are paranoid as hell from being stream sniped numerous times. But hey your post was much more on topic. Do you still work with blizzard, and if so, are they currently doing anything about maphackers being reported in this thread?
The problem is I use multiple replays when I report a player to them. In wc3 there were replays everywhere, but sc2 hackers can hide on barcodes. Even non barcodes are hard to find replays on. It takes a lot of work to get someone banned, and even then they don't lose their account, they get a 30 day temp ban....
Not sure if blizzard themselves are doing anything, does not feel like it.
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Hacker name [D9CBD]Rekterino
Server: NA
League: Master
He is the same person that I am assuming recently just got his account banned on Team Liquid. He is also the same person that falsely accused [NDGame]Kellerman of maphacking, and was seen to be pretty obviously maphacking in that same replay that he posted.
At around 10:50 you can see him look at my base in the fog of war, look down from my main and to my natural to see what units I have with no actual map vision. Also he does not even scout the spawn locations, and instead all-ins his entire army to the bottom spawn location without even checking, then after killing my natural base, goes straight to kill my 3rd base without scouting it existed either. There are multiple parts in the replay that show he is blatantly maphacking, and I really hope he gets banned from sc2.
http://drop.sc/386548
Edit: I don't know if I should have made this post as multiple people already showed that he was a maphacker, so sorry if its spam in that sense.
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On September 29 2014 11:17 Corolla99 wrote:Hacker name [D9CBD]Rekterino Server: NA League: Master He is the same person that I am assuming recently just got his account banned on Team Liquid. He is also the same person that falsely accused [NDGame]Kellerman of maphacking, and was seen to be pretty obviously maphacking in that same replay that he posted. At around 10:50 you can see him look at my base in the fog of war, look down from my main and to my natural to see what units I have with no actual map vision. Also he does not even scout the spawn locations, and instead all-ins his entire army to the bottom spawn location without even checking, then after killing my natural base, goes straight to kill my 3rd base without scouting it existed either. There are multiple parts in the replay that show he is blatantly maphacking, and I really hope he gets banned from sc2. http://drop.sc/386548
4:00 He moves his marines back to avoid the probe.
5:30 3 blind turrets in response to a phoenix opener.
7:30 Slow reactions to phoenixes is weird.
10:50 confirmed
11:40 4 viking production without scout against colossi.
12:20 builds a ghost academy in response to being accused of never scouting
14:30 pulling SCVs blindly towards your main, which he still hasn't scouted…
17:50 going straight to your third isn't that suspicious since it's a normal third…
19:30 he stops hacking or something, scans main and has really bad reaction times to what you do.
Looks like he's trying to hide it now.
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Rekterino is aka nerffy.. the known hacker from previous seasons.
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On September 29 2014 12:54 RaNgeD wrote:
Rekterino is aka nerffy.. the known hacker from previous seasons.
Since nerffy have so many accounts and got banned multiple time i always wondered if he wasn't making himself his hacks.
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Well, he just go promoted to master, and I hate protoss so I guess the replay belong here...
http://drop.sc/386589
Just watch the title. As far as I know, we can't make a building when there's creep under Fog of War. Unless ?... Yeah right.
Edit : nevermind he's master in Liberty. Well, feel free to laugh if you still want to watch the replay.
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Gonna ban Rekterino from D9CBD as soon as the leader logs.
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Note: ^ [D9CBD] Rekterino aka [D9CBD]ChanManV Grandmaster
Both accounts will be banned from Blizzard hopefully.
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On September 30 2014 10:36 Th1rdEye wrote:
Gonna ban Rekterino from D9CBD as soon as the leader logs.
i read somewhere the whole clan is hacking or supports hacking ^^
User was warned for this post
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I wanna ask is there a hack that lets games not count... Let say that you loose some game and you have this hack on so your loose or the game does not show on match history but you can watch it as replay?
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On October 01 2014 08:13 Raguel wrote:
I wanna ask is there a hack that lets games not count... Let say that you loose some game and you have this hack on so your loose or the game does not show on match history but you can watch it as replay?
How is that even possible....?
Your match history is linked to Blizzard's server directly, so I doubt there's no way you can change what Blizzard server is showing, unless you hack Blizzard's server.
Correct me if I'm wrong though! I'm a newb when it comes to these hacking stuff.
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On October 01 2014 08:13 Raguel wrote:
I wanna ask is there a hack that lets games not count... Let say that you loose some game and you have this hack on so your loose or the game does not show on match history but you can watch it as replay?
I don't think it's possible to erase from the match history without erasing the replay (although there may be a drop hack that does both). I do remember someone that didn't get penalized for losing, though.
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hihi i know this is masters/ gm thread but i was wondering if this guy was hacking.i just played this game on KR and this guy read my movements prefectly and it made no sense to me i even called him out and he said he wasn't and told me to watch replay, which i did.
So he never scouted me, build a turret and raven( which i can kinda get since banshee are a big opening in tvt but still) moves hes units to my banshee without knowing that its coming, does this 2-3 times. i move out with my marine tank army, he moves out to meet me doesnt cause i siege, then dances around reading my move again without seeing i even try and fake him out and he still knows and then just kills me.
if you watch you can just stop after the base race cause i was pretty pissed and just trolled him cause i knew he was hacking.
http://drop.sc/386630
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On October 01 2014 08:13 Raguel wrote:
I wanna ask is there a hack that lets games not count... Let say that you loose some game and you have this hack on so your loose or the game does not show on match history but you can watch it as replay?
There was a bug not long time ago that made match history not watchable. Also you can hide some match history if you play custom (i think)
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Hacker name: barcode
Server: EU
League: Master
Bnet profile: ??
Description: send voidrayto kill my roachs who are destroyiung the rocks in the fog. also 0 scout greedy build and make perfect counte of my units.
Replay: http://drop.sc/386675
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Hacker name: barcode
Team: [ETL] Eternal eSports Organization
Server: EU
League: Dia
http://drop.sc/386734
-no scouting the whole game. on a 4 player map he could fake at least some scouting to "find" my starting position.
-goes fast factory. builds mines. doesn´t drop anything, because he somehow knows that i´m prepared.
-knows exactly where my obs are. does nothing whith his army but hunting them down.
-blindcounters my colossus army (no templar) with mass vikings.
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