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Iwakami
United Kingdom7 Posts
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:17 Iwakami wrote: Im sorry, Wormi, you think he hacked cos he didnt go blind ghost to counter a templar opening that no one does? especially when they see widow mine? and *not* doing something like a drop is not a sign of hacking. Its a sign of lazyness :p. And good players can spot the shimmer of obs. Does taeja hack? well, blind counters exist. finding and killing my obs is possible, too. not dropping because of being lazy is a tiny bit strange. never scouting at all on a 4 player map but still knowing where my base is... hmmm... a 33% chance on nimbus. all together: pretty sure he´s maphacking. gonna ask the guys he played today for replays. | ||
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Iwakami
United Kingdom7 Posts
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
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Iwakami
United Kingdom7 Posts
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Nogard
Italy40 Posts
On October 04 2014 18:20 Wormi wrote: Hacker name: barcode Team: [ETL] Eternal eSports Organization Server: EU League: Dia http://drop.sc/386734 -no scouting the whole game. on a 4 player map he could fake at least some scouting to "find" my starting position. -goes fast factory. builds mines. doesn´t drop anything, because he somehow knows that i´m prepared. -knows exactly where my obs are. does nothing whith his army but hunting them down. -blindcounters my colossus army (no templar) with mass vikings. This guy is definitely maphacking, but I think you missed the biggest point. At about 8:10 he switches his vision over your observer coming in his base (without having any ingame info) BEFORE it enters the vision range of his units. | ||
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NightWarriorbg
Bulgaria2 Posts
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FenrirZerg
United States4 Posts
Server: NA League: Masters http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2911801/1/eSsXiV/ Description: This is a TvZ my friend Wacko played and showed me. Replay: http://drop.sc/386765/d Description: @4:52 he rallys his zerglings directly to a proxy factory. @12:01 he attack moves mutalisks directly to a idle banshee that has not even been revealed yet and it in the middle of nowhere.. The banshee was not in the way of some rally. he just clicked right on it. the most blatent hacking I've seen to date | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On October 04 2014 21:29 NightWarriorbg wrote: I have known him for so long time. We have played many times on ladder and I am totally sure he doesn't hack. He is just a very good player and decision making plus the points you gave are just stpid because every good player will do the same things he did. And guys pls think before typing. Let's say if you play any of top terrans in the world, would you call them map hackers as well because they have much better game sense and knoledge than you? I can assure you he is not hacking. If he was a hacker he wouldn't lose have lost the game. Oh come on. It's diamond. Don't compare diamond with top players of the world... Okay so i watched the rep and there is a coupl stuff that is lucky and weird. - No scouting. - Pre moving marine force when obs is going to enter the base, then he zoom and scan. - He make is dropshing going directly to the base while avoiding the obs (could be to not go normal pah but it's point directly at the guy). - The third obs snipe with an attack move right under it (could be luck) but why would you go this route ? - Double starport to a colossus opening and going mass viking (could be blind ofc). - At the exact time the third is put down, he start moving towards it - Same for the 4th (could be checking). (but he saw the probe a few minutes earlier) But when we talk good decision making. There's stuff that's really... Weird. - The scout paterns of the probe doesn't mean cross but that the guy scouted at least wrong once meaning the guy could be bottom right and scouted top then bottom or something. - Put his army in front of the base of the protoss while not really confirming he is there. - When the protoss army comes out and kill the mines that he left there he doesn't even back up or take the xelnaga tower that is just at 3meter of him. The army of the protoss could be moving out. he checked what attacked him but too late and only saw fog so he doesn't know if the P is pushing or not. In the end i would not say 100% hacker. The no scouting is kind of REALLY RARE at every level (even bronze sends probes/scv) but it's not uncommon (hello bomber). i'll let other poster say what they think or gimme more replays Weird decision making could be that the guy is diamond and we do all kind of silly mistakes (i'm diamond too). 'cause we are no pros | ||
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-sLi-
Germany17 Posts
I am sLi, a german Master Terran playing for cSc!Academy and today I met a Terran on the ladder who played a little weird. - EU-Server - This is my account: http://nios.kr/sc2/eu/1v1/hots/search/sLi/eu-2758789 - I played this account: http://nios.kr/sc2/eu/1v1/hots/search/HaCkEr/eu-1284289 - Not this one: http://nios.kr/sc2/eu/1v1/hots/search/HaCkEr/eu-1273141 - Here is the Replay: http://drop.sc/387097 - My pov and replay analysis with KRN.InZaNe after the game [GER]: http://www.twitch.tv/slisc2/b/575730030?t=56m16s Why I think he is not legit: 1. Early Marine moveout (5mins) 2. SCV's selection to build depots (7:20mins) 3. Camera movement/positioning in general 4. Camera movement in the fog of war over my hidden army (~10mins) 5. Spotting of my dropship (10:46mins) 6. Decision making from 10minutes to the rest of the game 7. Fight at 11:10 - my army was completly not on his screen 8. Army Pullback to his third base (11:58mins) I think this guy is using some sort of maphack and maybe a "far scrolled out" view for his camera. I am not sure about a production tab hack tho. For any further information or questions you can contact me here: skype: nik2.2 ingame: sLi.824 Greetings, sLi EDIT: I tried to contact him after the game, but he does not accept any messages from ppl that are not in his freindlist. He just wrote "I am batman" and went on laddering. | ||
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Nogard
Italy40 Posts
http://drop.sc/387102 I just found two "interesting" points, then I closed the replay disgusted. TvT on nimbus No scout at all 6:40 he sends 5 marines in the third of his opponent to intercept a banshee. His vision is blocked near the ramp of his opponent while he is microing his marines to kill the banshee (possibly a camera lock). 7:45 He stims his marines to kill another banshee before seeing it. Here I just closed the replay. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3632 Posts
On October 04 2014 21:29 NightWarriorbg wrote: I have known him for so long time. We have played many times on ladder and I am totally sure he doesn't hack. He is just a very good player and decision making plus the points you gave are just stpid because every good player will do the same things he did. And guys pls think before typing. Let's say if you play any of top terrans in the world, would you call them map hackers as well because they have much better game sense and knoledge than you? I can assure you he is not hacking. If he was a hacker he wouldn't lose have lost the game. I suggest that you watch the replay. It's a very obvious maphack. Just look at the observer snipes... Which begs the question: who are you, that you join TL and write a single post to defend a map hacker? | ||
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Twine
France246 Posts
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Meistersnus
Czech Republic1 Post
There is replay: http://drop.sc/387124 | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
On October 08 2014 03:11 Meistersnus wrote: Today I played against terran player Alive ( Diamond league) on EU. He is definitly maphacker. I sent warprism - already 2 turrets and vikings waiting. I sent attack to the 3rd base and right in this moment he moved with his army there. I started tempest production, he started vikings. I moved with my army to the 3rd he attacked 2nd base. There is replay: http://drop.sc/387124 I think this thread is just for higher ranked hackers isnt it? | ||
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Liliputin
Czech Republic458 Posts
On October 08 2014 03:26 TheMooseHeed wrote: I think this thread is just for higher ranked hackers isnt it? To be honest even a diamond cheater counts as a cheater... So maybe it is, but this guy will be in masters with his "new skillz" really soon, I can assure you... | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On October 08 2014 03:26 TheMooseHeed wrote: I think this thread is just for higher ranked hackers isnt it? a hacker in diamond today is a master tomorrow and a grand master a week later... What's your point ? | ||
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Alizard
Russian Federation10 Posts
Server: Eu Race: Terran Profile: starcraft://profile/2/5997178455924408320 Replay: http://www.ultralisk.ru/repa/18701 7:34 Reaper caught looking into the fog 10:26 steampack in the fog 11:51 drop and looking into the fog | ||
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TelecoM
United States10890 Posts
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Jardozer
United States5 Posts
Server: NA Race: Terran Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/6066984/1/Blitzkrieg/ Replay: http://drop.sc/387144 also http://drop.sc/387145 Pretty sure this is Nerfy, we played multiple games. He plays a ton of games and wins and then leaves a bunch on purpose just to get lower ranked. Common nerfy behavior if anyone has known of him for a while, we've played about 4 games or so, he has no scouted defended an allin, goes to where ever my mutas are going or my army is moving with no scouting going on. Won't scout all game knows my unit comp and what I'm going where my next bases are just by queuing up there. Seems fishy to me. | ||
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