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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8096 Posts
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Virtuous
United States111 Posts
On April 26 2013 05:30 Sokrates wrote: Ok i got another question, but i wont post a replay this time since i dont want to call out names without a lot of evidence. I played against a terran, he scouted me spire with a hellionrunby (the spire was halfway done). After his hellions died i canceld the spire and went for a massive speedroach allin (i only had 4 roaches prior to this to defend against the hellions). But instead of building some turrets, he didnt build a single turret and went for fullbio. Pretty strange, but then again if he just has a productiontabhack it is really hard to spot this...I didnt flame this time though.. Would hear the opinions of terran players here. Maybe he felt like he had enough marines to hold your muta without making turrets? Did you look at replay for widow mine defense and other things he may of done? | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
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TylerThaCreator
United States906 Posts
On April 26 2013 05:52 Sokrates wrote: Did you follow this thread? People rage hard if i call out somebody as a maphacker, posting replays is calling someone out so i first ask and if i got enough opinions on this i might post the replay. you are a passive aggressive manchild jesus. | ||
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Niv
United States1 Post
League: WoL GM, Masters HotS Server: NA Replays: Game 1 ZvZ: http://drop.sc/327491 He knows exactly when I drop my pool and accidentally types it out in chat. 01:29 [All] IMEstrella: and now u making spawning pool 01:33 [All] Niv: what? 01:35 [All] Niv: how did you know 01:36 [All] IMEstrella: i guess 01:36 [All] Niv: o.o 01:39 [All] IMEstrella: lol 01:41 [All] Niv: LOL 01:41 [All] IMEstrella: right... 01:42 [All] Niv: wtf 01:44 [All] Niv: maphacker 01:46 [All] IMEstrella: why not hatchery? 01:48 [All] IMEstrella: FUCK U Game 2 ZvZ: http://drop.sc/327490 He does the same thing, and somehow knows that I'm rallying my zerglings to his natural? He stares at his main while moving his units across the map. 01:41 [All] IMEstrella: bitch 01:44 [All] IMEstrella: fagg0t 02:07 [All] IMEstrella: and know u move to my 2nd exp? Game 3 PvZ: http://drop.sc/327492 Auto-inject is used, which is a dead giveaway. He rallies all his overlords to the bottom corner. He doesn't scout, and always sends his zerglings to where probes and proxy pylons are. He doesn't leave lings around the map for scouting and still knows exactly when Zor moves out. He has been reported before + Show Spoiler + On April 24 2013 01:49 Ryuj wrote: Hacker name: IMEstrella http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4205108/1/IMEstrella/ League: top 16 grandmaster in WoL mode, High master in HotS Server: NA Replay: http://drop.sc/326920 -pauses the inital game when it starts and asks me if I am interested in wintrading. I bait him in talking about it more as seen in the replay chat channel on how he does it. -After I told him I will be reporting him, game unpause and continues, he six pools, I go for a 9 pool early ling aggression since he doesn't scout with his overlord. -After six pool goes for a spine crawler after seeing my 9 pool and six lings. I hide the 6 lings for an counter attack whenever his lings moves out of the map. Instead scouts my hidden lings and kills it. -No overlord is out on the map, instead all rallied to the upper top corner of the map. -Reacts to ling/bane attacks even though he has no vision since there are no overlords. -Auto inject hack is also used. -Pull drones to prevent loss even before the attack was initiated or scouted. According to win history, win trading with: (most likely using hack as well) [A11] Azureskies - GM [TMEP] Talentz - GM [xA] Infiniti - Masters and possibly more. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
US Server ; ,master league (was GM before) SpecialistJr edit : lets put the replay here aswell  Replay 4:58 : makes inbase bunker without knowing anything (has CC on lowground) 5:04 : Micro's marines without having the camera on them 5:55 : Brings CC back to main without scouting whatsoever (That was pretty funny) Makes marauders to counter the build 7:04 : makes bunker at perfect location without scout 7:08 : pulls SCV without knowing anything to counter. Most obvious hacker i've seen so far ^ | ||
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Virtuous
United States111 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:31 WonnaPlay wrote: The most obvious hacker i've seen in a while : US Server ; ,master league (was GM before) SpecialistJr edit : lets put the replay here aswell Replay 4:58 : makes inbase bunker without knowing anything (has CC on lowground) 5:04 : Micro's marines without having the camera on them 5:55 : Brings CC back to main without scouting whatsoever (That was pretty funny) Makes marauders to counter the build 7:04 : makes bunker at perfect location without scout 7:08 : pulls SCV without knowing anything to counter. Most obvious hacker i've seen so far ^ I was just watching the game I played against him because now that someone else brought it up it was suspicious... Hes using zoom hack during my game which is pretty obvious... You can see it after he starts his depot his camera isn't able to see the minerals but hes changing his rally to select other mineral patches which is impossible without zooming out. Seems like hacks to me ill share my replay for more evidence http://drop.sc/327523 | ||
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nateomfg
United States2 Posts
League: Masters HotS Server: NA Replays: http://drop.sc/327539 This was a multiplayer game, but this guy is top 8 masters on NA. He was calling out exactly what the other team was doing all game, including right from the start when one of the enemy zergs did a 6 pool or 8 pool or something. The maphacker tells me to "CHRONO A ZEALOT ASAP" and I was like "why?". A few minutes later, he called out that one of the enemy zergs was going mutas without scouting at all at any point during the game, and at that point I understood what was going on. | ||
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ThomasR
764 Posts
On April 25 2013 05:26 mk.ultra wrote: This thread really makes me wonder how many hackers I've played in 1v1 Plat/Diamond and Master 4v4 games. wow masters 4v4, u are good On April 26 2013 10:29 nateomfg wrote: Hacker name: Hailey League: Masters HotS Server: NA Replays: http://drop.sc/327539 This was a multiplayer game, but this guy is top 8 masters on NA. He was calling out exactly what the other team was doing all game, including right from the start when one of the enemy zergs did a 6 pool or 8 pool or something. The maphacker tells me to "CHRONO A ZEALOT ASAP" and I was like "why?". A few minutes later, he called out that one of the enemy zergs was going mutas without scouting at all at any point during the game, and at that point I understood what was going on. he's been reported numerous times, but blizzard clearly doesn't give a fuck | ||
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Rickyvalle21
United States320 Posts
On April 26 2013 10:29 nateomfg wrote: Hacker name: Hailey League: Masters HotS Server: NA Replays: http://drop.sc/327539 This was a multiplayer game, but this guy is top 8 masters on NA. He was calling out exactly what the other team was doing all game, including right from the start when one of the enemy zergs did a 6 pool or 8 pool or something. The maphacker tells me to "CHRONO A ZEALOT ASAP" and I was like "why?". A few minutes later, he called out that one of the enemy zergs was going mutas without scouting at all at any point during the game, and at that point I understood what was going on. Wow he made another account after his main got banned. Looking at TL archives he has been hacking for a long long time. Wish blizzard did something about this, | ||
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Starshaped
Sweden575 Posts
Name: Misieq Server: EU League: Master HotS ~1600 points Replay: http://drop.sc/327618 things I noted: He didn't scout at all during early game. He plays a very greedy opening for being completely blind (1gate FE before stalker/zealot into robo into robo support bay). He did get observers but he never once sent them into my main to see what I was doing. One obs sees my 3rd at the corner of my main but he never sends the obs in further to see what I'm doing. He moved very boldly across the map with 1 collo and 1 stalker to take my tower. He did seem to be caught off-guard by my banshee and later my hellbat drops. I'm not declaring with confidence that he hacks or anything, but the game felt suspicious enough to warrant an upload here to see what others have to say. Thanks! Edit: I should mention that I talked to him after the game and although he never answered my questions about the lack of obs-scouting my main he did say something along the lines of "this is just how I play, it's very safe vs terran, I have over 8k games so my game-sense is good" etc. | ||
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DW-Unrec
492 Posts
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HpplVgn
27 Posts
What I think happened for him is that his 10 pool backfired, since I think that he thought my inbase pylon was just to hide forge after a nexus first. I scout his natural timing and know its some sort of early pool 10-12 was my guess. and from there on out it was pretty much over for him. as 4gate is pretty hard to hold when u didnt open with any sort of eco. Name: Aware Team: Impulse , (same team that PsycicLee played for until he got busted for cheating during WCS NA) League: High Master MMR http://drop.sc/327758 | ||
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Zennith
United States795 Posts
On April 27 2013 03:39 HpplVgn wrote: Impulse Esports got more hackers, iMp Aware 10 pools me on whirlwind and sends lings straight to my location without drone scouting. What I think happened for him is that his 10 pool backfired, since I think that he thought my inbase pylon was just to hide forge after a nexus first. I scout his natural timing and know its some sort of early pool 10-12 was my guess. and from there on out it was pretty much over for him. as 4gate is pretty hard to hold when u didnt open with any sort of eco. Name: Aware Team: Impulse , (same team that PsycicLee played for until he got busted for cheating during WCS NA) League: High Master MMR http://drop.sc/327758 Without having seen the replay: As a zerg, if I've overlord scouted to one direction of whirlwind and you probe scout at standard times, I can very easily know which base you are at. Just saying. | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On April 27 2013 03:39 HpplVgn wrote: Impulse Esports got more hackers, iMp Aware 10 pools me on whirlwind and sends lings straight to my location without drone scouting. What I think happened for him is that his 10 pool backfired, since I think that he thought my inbase pylon was just to hide forge after a nexus first. I scout his natural timing and know its some sort of early pool 10-12 was my guess. and from there on out it was pretty much over for him. as 4gate is pretty hard to hold when u didnt open with any sort of eco. Name: Aware Team: Impulse , (same team that PsycicLee played for until he got busted for cheating during WCS NA) League: High Master MMR http://drop.sc/327758 2:47 - He checks his overlord at the bottom left, sees no expo, and sees your probe leaving the main. His lings are at his natural. Knowing that probe is there at that time means that he 9 scouted the wrong base first, so assuming the standard 9 scout, the logical base for him to be at is the top right. The fact that you think him doing a 10 pool in case of your in base forge is pure speculation. Gateway openings are more popular than in base forges I'm pretty sure, and 10 pool is terrible vs a gateway expand build. I bet you felt pretty tough telling him "out" after you triumphantly killed him with a 4 gate. Sorry but you have absolutely no evidence. | ||
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Dyphen
1 Post
i'm new here, i'm a low master actually on EU I was playing in unranked and i met this guy, he told me he was GM on WoL, i guess he's not but it's a maphacker. Hacker name : HeatoN League : Plat Server : EU Replay : http://drop.sc/327883/d He didn't scout me during all game with overlords or drones When i'm going with my medivac with mines to his main, he just morphed a overseer I watched the replay and it's so obvious at 7:09 in his view. I didn't reported him yet , i'm waiting for your thoughts, just watch the replay in his view. | ||
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Dzerzhinsky
Scotland327 Posts
On April 27 2013 12:04 Dyphen wrote: Hey guys i'm new here, i'm a low master actually on EU I was playing in unranked and i met this guy, he told me he was GM on WoL, i guess he's not but it's a maphacker. Hacker name : HeatoN League : Plat Server : EU Replay : http://drop.sc/327883/d He didn't scout me during all game with overlords or drones When i'm going with my medivac with mines to his main, he just morphed a overseer I watched the replay and it's so obvious at 7:09 in his view. I didn't reported him yet , i'm waiting for your thoughts, just watch the replay in his view. I played the same guy on NA in an unranked game a week ago, so I went back and took a look. He was a Plat when I played him, but he's in Masters now with a 76% winrate. http://drop.sc/327888 Sends both his initial Overlords to my spawn. Never actually uses them to scout my base, or even confirm that I'm at that spawn. Attacks this mysterious spawn despite no evidence that there's a base there. Tell-tale 'mom mom mom look at me mom mom are you looking!' bm. | ||
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Mysteryman1992
United States3 Posts
Name: [hDmt]Jussi Leauge: Masters Server: NA Replay: http://drop.sc/328214 Dude sent a reaper without scouting. At all. Placing my depot at the top of my base. I noticed his base was from up top. Sent Medivacs to drop. I had xelnaga tower. So he couldn't have possible seen where my units were going. However, he ends up moving all his units to stop my block. I pick up my units and out of 4 medivacs he snipes the 2 medivacs with all my units. | ||
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Deadlift
United States358 Posts
On April 22 2013 06:29 nunez wrote: i didn't have time to look through this rep, but i want to make a comment on the 'bug' you mentioned. it's something i have noticed a lot in replays. if you want to reproduce it you follow a players camera and hit 'back' while the camera is moving. the camera will the slide in an arbitrary direction at what seems to be an arbitrary speed, and sometimes an arbitrary height until it gets some new input from the replay file (this is assumption on my part). it's not an efficient way to gauge if someone is hacking, because you can only step back 10 and 10 seconds or 1 and 1 minutes etc, but the period of these arbitrary movements will be longer the more camera locking is involved. but beyond that i'm not sure what it really says. i am not quite sure what causes it to zoom out in some cases and not to zoom out in others. i think if somebody wanted to find out a way to detect if a player is using camera locks, looking at frequency and length of periods with no camera input vs the length of the replay would be a good place to start. edit: btw willam findlay seems to be senorchang (hacker), funny how he should know him by real name and guess it was him who 'knew that account'. and alex tarkoff = dustswarm / lemonhost i assume. To clarify, is DuStSwarm a hacker? He's currently in the running for one of the SHOUTcraft America slots. | ||
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Mysteryman1992
United States3 Posts
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