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On April 25 2013 04:57 ashfall wrote:
Your hellion batt drops were scouted ages ago before you actually dropped, Gillon. Securing both your main and expand with vikings seems the logical thing to do. But keep trying please.
Knowing that I was dropping hellbats is one thing. Completely moving in tandem with them while they're in fog of war is another. But alas, I'll leave judgement to the masses.
Oh, but maybe you should get off your fucking high horse about smearing names when you do the same fucking thing? Retard.
EDIT: Worth it.
User was warned for this post
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This thread really makes me wonder how many hackers I've played in 1v1 Plat/Diamond and Master 4v4 games.
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Waiting on some guy to accuse me of hacking right now. Was a 1v1 TvT on Newkirk Precinct; I decided to turtle a bit after losing my hellbat drop and my scouting reapers due to some decently placed Vikings and rather sloppy control. So it was me on three bases, and his two. I assumed he was going to go bio/biotank off two bases with some harass so I placed my Vikings to the edges of the base to prevent drops from coming in.
The drops never came. Instead, I saw the faint glimmer of mass cloakshees at the edge of my base as I was throwing down supply depots in my main and immediately I throw down turrets and check my orbitals if I have scans available, as well as recalling about 8-9 vikings to hopefully snipe off as many as possible with the scans.
He immediately calls me a hacker and says he's going to report me as well as put it on TL. I assume it'll be this thread. I really hope he learns in due time that you can see the faint outline of invisible units; he needs to watch Taeja play sometime in a TvP.
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http://drop.sc/327274
GM Level MMR barcode who i'm pretty sure hacks. Either maphack/production hack or both. Played vs him a game last night where he fully blind countered my build, didnt think much of it but played him again today and noticed a bunch of things. Firstly, he again blind counters my build with 0 scouting information. He opens 1 base speedling vs my 10 pool speedling (direct counter) but he has 0 scouting information and still keeps his lings in his base, waiting for my attack. he keeps them in his mineral line as if expecting some kind of attack. Also, when I do my baneling attack he (without knowing I even have a baneling nest) pre-emptively makes his spine and 10 banelings right as im morphing my banelings (out of his sight) to do my push. He pulls back all his units even though he has more lings than me knowing that i have many more reinforcing lings coming.
on top of all that, he's got horrible micro/mechanics. No where near GM mmr level. If you watch the replay you'll see how bad his micro/multitasking is. I was a former hacker so I tend to be pretty good at spotting hackers since I know generally how they work and this guy is almost definitely using a production tab hack at LEAST.
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Dude, Zoohairz, we already know YOU hack. So... shhh.
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On April 25 2013 09:46 Zennith wrote:
Dude, Zoohairz, we already know YOU hack. So... shhh.
I expected posts like this, but no. I do not. I did in WoL yah, but with HotS I stopped. Hence the new name, trying for a new reputation etc. Don't have to support me since I understand everyone hating me for it and not wanting to give me second chances but that's up to you. I'm just posting here for the original intent of the thread.
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On April 25 2013 09:50 zuhairZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:46 Zennith wrote:
Dude, Zoohairz, we already know YOU hack. So... shhh. I expected posts like this, but no. I do not. I did in WoL yah, but with HotS I stopped. Hence the new name, trying for a new reputation etc. Don't have to support me since I understand everyone hating me for it and not wanting to give me second chances but that's up to you. I'm just posting here for the original intent of the thread.
Sure bro. You totally told the truth last time it came up and you're totally telling the truth now.
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lol Zoohairz hacked for like 3 days pretty sure we can confirm him as not a hacker at the moment.
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once a hacker always a hacker ^^
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On April 25 2013 09:37 zuhairZ wrote:http://drop.sc/327274GM Level MMR barcode who i'm pretty sure hacks. Either maphack/production hack or both. Played vs him a game last night where he fully blind countered my build, didnt think much of it but played him again today and noticed a bunch of things. Firstly, he again blind counters my build with 0 scouting information. He opens 1 base speedling vs my 10 pool speedling (direct counter) but he has 0 scouting information and still keeps his lings in his base, waiting for my attack. he keeps them in his mineral line as if expecting some kind of attack. Also, when I do my baneling attack he (without knowing I even have a baneling nest) pre-emptively makes his spine and 10 banelings right as im morphing my banelings (out of his sight) to do my push. He pulls back all his units even though he has more lings than me knowing that i have many more reinforcing lings coming. on top of all that, he's got horrible micro/mechanics. No where near GM mmr level. If you watch the replay you'll see how bad his micro/multitasking is. I was a former hacker so I tend to be pretty good at spotting hackers since I know generally how they work and this guy is almost definitely using a production tab hack at LEAST.
It's annoying when you play against someone who is cheating eh? Funny to see you cursing out a hacker when in wol you were hacking and flaming people with "ez" and "u mad?" just a year ago. Hopefully you've grown up a bit since then.
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Found a hacker:
Hacker Name: LeaKyFaUcet
Server: NA
League: Diamond
Replay: http://drop.sc/327346
He has weird camera movements all game long.
@4:48 he looks into the fog of war at my recently created gateways.
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On December 31 2012 06:30 nunez wrote:Hacker name:  BlackCitadelServer: NA League: gm, 1286 points, 52 wins / 52 lossesDescription:BlastTefel (z, top right) vs AnnaProsser(p, bot left) @ shakuras plateu@6:51 is blind, going for a 7 gate with +1. places a pylon under inner bot right expo. he doesn't know at this point where Tefel spawned. EGThorzain (t, top right) vs AnnaProsser(p, bot left) @ daybreak@6:31 T moves marines cross map unscouted, as they close in on the natural, he prematurely pulls his main hatch queen down. EGThorzain (t, top left) vs AnnaProsser(p, bot right) @ ohana le@8:23 has no map vision, T moving cross map with a small force. starts pumping lings. @8:39 camera pans towards thorzains army but stops at edge of fow at his ramp. @8:50 peeks into fog of war. @12:09 thorzain is taking his third, AP starts pumping lings and moves a squad up to thorzains fourth. as a drop moves to fly over this pack, he moves it back. @12:30 runs some of his lings back behind the mineral line at fourth and 'spots' the drop. @12:53 thorzain stopped his medevac outside the fifth, moves it back from the ling and loops it back into the main, avoiding any scouting. @13:20 sends his mutas to kill the drop, he had no vision of it. @14:36 sends units into his main as a drop moves in. he ran past it, but didn't react until it moved. clicks just where it lands. @18:06 looks into fog of war at t's army. never ever takes the xel naga towers, doesn't scout at all. DaNks (p, bot left) vs AnnaProsser (z, bot right) @ shakuras plateu@4:03 sends lings to bot left base, and auto inject and impossible reselection, using the 9th hotkey. notice that the lings 30324 and 10350 are his first two lings who are on their way to his opponents base when the selection happens. 3:45 AnnaProsser Select Zergling x2 (30324,10350), Deselect all (prior to the autoprod)![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t2HgT.png) @4:32 stops the lings before even trying to run up the ramp. Note:changed name from AnnaProsser
Wasn't this STRainbOw? Pretty sure he was #1 NA with this account. I guess he sold it after he went to the army?
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On April 25 2013 02:43 Sokrates wrote:
I ASKED for opinions about this guy, i wanted people with a lot of knowledge to have a look on this game. I might be wrong, i also said that before. But then again i see a replay of a guy that panically prepares for a banebust after all the info he has is 1 drone mining gas after speed, has no scouting on the map (like bringing an additional scv to check if i take a third) and then right when i morph the banelings at 7:00min the camera freaks out if you jump back to that point.
What you call "panically prepares for a banebust" is only your IMO biased opinion. From my perspective, I see a Terran that plays safe and primarily walls to fend off lings run-bys.
The camera movement you mention at 7' that proves map hack, I still cannot see it, and I watched the replay 3 times from the Terran's perspective. I think you're confusing it with the well-known glitch that happens in some replays when you jump in time and the camera moves around in a weird way. It does not happen in game, it's a replay bug and it's been there forever.
Edit: Ok, I see you weren't aware of that glitch and apologized, case closed.
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On April 25 2013 04:31 gillon wrote:Hacker name: PhilAyvi Server: EU League: Masters Description: Hides it pretty well but his screen movement seems kinda choppy and lock-ish? Either way, the big giveaway is the blind stim in at 30:00. Watch his vision from 29:50, notice how random it is and the weird camera movements. I'm not the mh expert, but it sure does sound off the alarm for me. Replay: http://drop.sc/327209
I haven't watched the rest of the game as it's quite long but I see nothing suspicious, neither camera movements nor the stim, between 29:40 and 30:10+
He stims because less than 15 seconds ago he saw the position of your army on the top-left corner, it's a mech army, there's no way it could have moved far away in those 15 seconds. He probably tried to catch you unsieged.
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On April 25 2013 09:50 zuhairZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:46 Zennith wrote:
Dude, Zoohairz, we already know YOU hack. So... shhh. I expected posts like this, but no. I do not. I did in WoL yah, but with HotS I stopped. Hence the new name, trying for a new reputation etc. Don't have to support me since I understand everyone hating me for it and not wanting to give me second chances but that's up to you. I'm just posting here for the original intent of the thread.
Ironic that an unskilled hacker cries about another one.
Anyway I played the barcode a while back and he cross map sent an overlord to nydus in zvz without ever confirming I was that base, and tried to cross map 7 pool drone pull the next game without scouting (both whirlwind). Wish these hacks would tell people how big the maps are.
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On April 25 2013 21:02 Nyast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 04:31 gillon wrote:Hacker name: PhilAyvi Server: EU League: Masters Description: Hides it pretty well but his screen movement seems kinda choppy and lock-ish? Either way, the big giveaway is the blind stim in at 30:00. Watch his vision from 29:50, notice how random it is and the weird camera movements. I'm not the mh expert, but it sure does sound off the alarm for me. Replay: http://drop.sc/327209 I haven't watched the rest of the game as it's quite long but I see nothing suspicious, neither camera movements nor the stim, between 29:40 and 30:10+ He stims because less than 15 seconds ago he saw the position of your army on the top-left corner, it's a mech army, there's no way it could have moved far away in those 15 seconds. He probably tried to catch you unsieged.
There is no way someone would actually do that without scanning first to know that I'm not sieged/sieging. If I was to be doing that, he'd instantly lose 100 sup for nothing and most probably the game. On top of that I could've gone three separate paths and yet he still stims as if I'm just over the ridge unsieged without scanning it and blindly charges in?
I mean, yeah, I guess you could make the case for him just being stupid, but I'm not too convinced.
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Meh, I'm not too bothered, I still think he hacks, but until there's more replays I'll just let it slide. If there happens to pop up more reps of him I'll check em out.
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On April 25 2013 23:06 gillon wrote:
Meh, I'm not too bothered, I still think he hacks, but until there's more replays I'll just let it slide. If there happens to pop up more reps of him I'll check em out.
ah, the essence of this thread. i demand more essence.
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On April 25 2013 22:53 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 21:02 Nyast wrote:On April 25 2013 04:31 gillon wrote:Hacker name: PhilAyvi Server: EU League: Masters Description: Hides it pretty well but his screen movement seems kinda choppy and lock-ish? Either way, the big giveaway is the blind stim in at 30:00. Watch his vision from 29:50, notice how random it is and the weird camera movements. I'm not the mh expert, but it sure does sound off the alarm for me. Replay: http://drop.sc/327209 I haven't watched the rest of the game as it's quite long but I see nothing suspicious, neither camera movements nor the stim, between 29:40 and 30:10+ He stims because less than 15 seconds ago he saw the position of your army on the top-left corner, it's a mech army, there's no way it could have moved far away in those 15 seconds. He probably tried to catch you unsieged. There is no way someone would actually do that without scanning first to know that I'm not sieged/sieging. If I was to be doing that, he'd instantly lose 100 sup for nothing and most probably the game. On top of that I could've gone three separate paths and yet he still stims as if I'm just over the ridge unsieged without scanning it and blindly charges in? I mean, yeah, I guess you could make the case for him just being stupid, but I'm not too convinced.
You may be right, he may be hacking, or maybe not, I just wanted to say that in my view it isn't such a big "giveaway" as you made it sound like.
It would have been very suspicious if he did that move after a minute of not seeing your army, but we're talking of something like 15s here. Anybody would have known exactly were your army were, it was all tanks, how fast can a tank move in 15s of game time... ? And given that you sieged to kill the PF ( if I remember well ), the probability of catching you unsieged right at that time was pretty high, I think. All I'm saying is that part in particular doesn't seem too conclusive to me. The rest of the replay I haven't watched, so if it is filled with suspicious moves, it may very well not be a coincidence..
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Ok i got another question, but i wont post a replay this time since i dont want to call out names without a lot of evidence.
I played against a terran, he scouted me spire with a hellionrunby (the spire was halfway done). After his hellions died i canceld the spire and went for a massive speedroach allin (i only had 4 roaches prior to this to defend against the hellions).
But instead of building some turrets, he didnt build a single turret and went for fullbio. Pretty strange, but then again if he just has a productiontabhack it is really hard to spot this...I didnt flame this time though.. Would hear the opinions of terran players here.
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