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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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Hacker name: IMEstrella http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4205108/1/IMEstrella/
League: top 16 grandmaster in WoL mode, High master in HotS
Server: NA
Replay: http://drop.sc/326920
-pauses the inital game when it starts and asks me if I am interested in wintrading. I bait him in talking about it more as seen in the replay chat channel on how he does it.
-After I told him I will be reporting him, game unpause and continues, he six pools, I go for a 9 pool early ling aggression since he doesn't scout with his overlord.
-After six pool goes for a spine crawler after seeing my 9 pool and six lings. I hide the 6 lings for an counter attack whenever his lings moves out of the map. Instead scouts my hidden lings and kills it.
-No overlord is out on the map, instead all rallied to the upper top corner of the map.
-Reacts to ling/bane attacks even though he has no vision since there are no overlords.
-Auto inject hack is also used.
-Pull drones to prevent loss even before the attack was initiated or scouted.
According to win history, win trading with: (most likely using hack as well)
[A11] Azureskies - GM
[TMEP] Talentz - GM
[xA] Infiniti - Masters
and possibly more.
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Is Blizzard going after the people who provide hacks?
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On April 24 2013 00:13 SoOJuuu wrote:
its not about winning or losing vs hackers. its just ladder points at the end of the day.
I havent used that TLhacker thing that tells you if youre playing a hacker, but the theory is
if we were able to get everyone to agree not to play hackers(thanks to this program) they would get no enjoyment from hacking because they would not be able to play anygames.
It would force them to buy new accounts which of course would mean wed find out again. Rinse and repeat until they quit hacking/playing the game.
Obv this can never happen but it would be nice.(in theory)
This wouldn't work, since not everyone check this thread and know who hacks or not. And also I don't think this would actually dissuade them from playing sicne they'll be happy to get our ladder points and get very high in gm...
And the reason I don't leave the games vs him and other hackers is 1) they're terrible and it's possible to beat them, and 2) i'm trying to get my mmr high for gm league and leaving the game whenever i get a hacker would screw that up..
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Yet another obvious maphacker.
Name: Hasudrone
Server: EU
Info: No scout nex expand, no observers and no info just putting 2 stargates down immidiatelly after I do spire. Follow my army way before they are in his vision.
http://drop.sc/327018
Really starting to get tired of this, wonder why blizz dont do anything
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Name: bancheese
League: Masters, HotS
Server: NA
Replay: http://drop.sc/327035
Info: Never scouts, blind counters reapers with two bunkers waaaay early. Most obvious is looking straight through fog, didn't even have the fog of war block on to hide it.
I can't believe someone this obvious even knows how to install the damn thing to begin with. He messaged me after the game to deny hacking (Despite it not being explicitly said in game) and immediately blocked.
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On April 24 2013 00:13 SoOJuuu wrote:
its not about winning or losing vs hackers. its just ladder points at the end of the day.
I havent used that TLhacker thing that tells you if youre playing a hacker, but the theory is
if we were able to get everyone to agree not to play hackers(thanks to this program) they would get no enjoyment from hacking because they would not be able to play anygames.
It would force them to buy new accounts which of course would mean wed find out again. Rinse and repeat until they quit hacking/playing the game.
Obv this can never happen but it would be nice.(in theory)
I'd consider this idea if I wasn't so anal about my points. Although, I don't think it would work. Couldn't this give the hackers a bigger e-peen because they know we'll leave? :/
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Name: Ashfall http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/852615/1/Ashfall/
League: HotS 1500 Masters
Server: EU
info: blind triple bunker against my roach aggression (after i scouted his attempt to proxy 2 rax). he did not even see anything in my base (no scan, no scv scout etc, no information as to whether i took a quick third or not). maybe he figured he should play safe??...but idk..you guys decide
http://drop.sc/325273
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Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1
http://drop.sc/327095
Name: [tlag]lagmentality
Server: NA
League: Masters
I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on.
In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone).
He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else.
If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third...
So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it.
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Dannus rotfl
if i hacked i woudnt lose (few games before) vs 4wg allin ,when i did 1gate robo .
It wasnt nexus expand but forge nexus expand,dont lie.
So now i cant switch to mass air without scouting each part of your base ? i am tired loosing vs mutas so in all pvsz i switch to air.
i had an observer but u killed it .
when u did swarm host i obviously didnt know it ,i attacked without observer .Dont u think if i hacked i would make one ?
tell me when did my army follow yours?
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On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it.
I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing.
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On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing.
I double his post. He is also one of my players and I'm 100% sure that he doesn't hack. I will have a look at the replay though
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On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it.
"05:58 [All] IIIIIlllll: sick maphack
06:12 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no.
06:17 [All] IIIIIlllll: no lol
06:54 [All] IIIIIlllll: sad fuck
07:19 [All] IIIIIlllll: ah i remember
07:24 [All] IIIIIlllll: you have been added to the TL hacker list
07:29 [All] IIIIIlllll: for everyone to see what a pathetic fuck you are
07:51 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no more shit plz
07:55 [All] IIIIIlllll: rofl"
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On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing.
On April 24 2013 22:32 Xonix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing. I double his post. He is also one of my players and I'm 100% sure that he doesn't hack. I will have a look at the replay though
On April 24 2013 22:34 Xonix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. "05:58 [All] IIIIIlllll: sick maphack 06:12 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no. 06:17 [All] IIIIIlllll: no lol 06:54 [All] IIIIIlllll: sad fuck 07:19 [All] IIIIIlllll: ah i remember 07:24 [All] IIIIIlllll: you have been added to the TL hacker list 07:29 [All] IIIIIlllll: for everyone to see what a pathetic fuck you are 07:51 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no more shit plz 07:55 [All] IIIIIlllll: rofl"
1. Like nunez and others have stated, you can hack and still stream, he made a big post in this thread regarding streaming and hacking.
2.It is not just the preparation for the banelingbust, it is also the really odd camera movement at 7:00min if your skip back to this point which is strong evidence for a camera lock aka maphack.
3.I flame if i play hackers and 90% of the time the accusation is right, you can see that if you follow my other posts in this thread. I m not sure what your point is by quoteting this  .
I wanted to contact you about this anyway, i was on your clanpage and also added the members of other people you played against to my bnetcontact list, so i m glad you found this post.
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Here is his Battle.net page-
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/862688/1/PurpL/
Hacker name: PurpL
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
Here is the replay
http://drop.sc/312736
This is pretty much an open and shut case. He reacts before he has vision at least twice. Super clear examples. Anyways I don't have SCII gears on my harddrive right now (as I ran out of space and had to delete things to install HOTS.) so I could not check it for auto select and stuff like that. If someone from the community could check for me it would be appreciated.
** I also played poorly. Even with his hacks, I still should have won** It is easy to see that I still don't use the mothership right. If I had recalled during the first fight, and sniped his mothership during the second, I would have won kinda easy. Hell if I just saved my prism so I could warp in closer.
~@8:11 He cancels the nexus for no reason. He does not see my attack timing. He cancels the nexus way too early.
~@11:39 He moves his army to his natural mineral line, to defend from drops. Clicks right on the ledge. He moved before he has vision of the warp prism. He even starts to dance his army a little bit before like @11:30 to make it look like he was just happen to be moving his army around.
~@13:17 when I go in for the kill, he happens to be building pylons and I move all the way up his ramp before he reacts. Also he only reacts once I attack and he gets the alert. Very slow reaction time for a Masters League player, How come his reaction timing was so perfect at 8:11 and 11:39.
Also during the big battle he does almost no micro, he casts Photon Overcharge and puts down force fields very late. Not that it matters, but if I had killed the mothership before he cast PO or even realized how huge the range is on that spell, I think I could have still pulled out a W. Also not to mention mass recalled once I knew the first fight was not going my way.
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On April 25 2013 01:38 Sokrates wrote:2.It is not just the preparation for the banelingbust, it is also the really odd camera movement at 7:00min if your skip back to this point which is strong evidence for a camera lock aka maphack. 3.I flame if i play hackers and 90% of the time the accusation is right, you can see that if you follow my other posts in this thread. I m not sure what your point is by quoteting this .
I watched the replay and see nothing conclusive. I can't really see any weird camera movement nor camera lock around 7'. And while it's true he prepares 2 bunkers and a depot wall ( one of which he keeps down, which makes no sense if he knows a bust is coming ), it can simply be that he's playing safe after seeing your gas, maybe it's just his playstyle ? Banneling bust is still in the meta game after all..
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Watch the replay as a whole, then pick a random point in the game while you are still on play. After that first go to his camera vision then jump to 7:00, the camera comes zooms out from really random odd angles. If you watch the game normally you wont see anything suspicious but if you do if i said then this will happen.
On April 22 2013 06:29 nunez wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:22 avilo wrote:On April 22 2013 05:07 RemarK wrote:On April 21 2013 18:48 avilo wrote:Possible hacker: Lemonsoap http://drop.sc/326050Check replay, besides the fact he claims he's off racing, he's quite on top of his "spade scans" if you understand my meaning. He also never scans my base, yet continues building hellions in his "TvT" opening as if he knows i'm going for the mass hellbat drop. After this stage, here is where it gets lulzy, multiple looks into the fog of war at army positioning, as well as obvious as fuck screen locking when doing such an inane task like "lowering and raising supply depots" at his third: He also uses zero spotter marines. Also, it seems a lot in this replay, it will "bug" and from opponent's perspective the map cursor selection will zoom way out and happen to follow my unit movements or be focused on my base. I do not know how this happens in the replay, but going back and forward multiple times, there are a lot of points where this occurs. First thing is he happens to send all his hellions to his third to clear out the marine/hellion i left there (he has no idea this is there, or where the medivac had gone). 13:09: random spamming of building hotkeys/depots 13:17: moves his screen and keeps it where the drop is about to fly back in. First I thought he was going to queue up a depot wall, but his screen just sits still as he's looking at "something" then he queues up the depot wall after. 13:51: he scans near where he saw my army before, could be a normal scan... 14:55: selects his ebays to queue up armor upgrade, then his screen just sorta...screenlocks? 15:24: looks into fog of war, scans where my army just was (he catches tail end of a unit), i move my army through the center of the map (i never do this in my TvTs, I wanted to see if he'd just "happen" to find my army again). Well what do you know, another look into fog of war and he issues move commands to his army directly near mine (subconscious? He sees where my shiot is and tells his army to move before scanning to confirm). Overall, never scouts my base, never scans, never drops, plays "weird." Not that i played amazing this game, but this person does not even use spotter marines and queues up 50 units at once claiming to have "amazing mechanics" lol. Were you streaming? I don't have time to watch the replay, but if you're streaming I think the default assumption should be stream cheating instead of maphacking. I still think people accuse too often without evidence :3 The above game was not during a stream session. i didn't have time to look through this rep, but i want to make a comment on the 'bug' you mentioned. it's something i have noticed a lot in replays. if you want to reproduce it you follow a players camera and hit 'back' while the camera is moving. the camera will the slide in an arbitrary direction at what seems to be an arbitrary speed, and sometimes an arbitrary height until it gets some new input from the replay file (this is assumption on my part). it's not an efficient way to gauge if someone is hacking, because you can only step back 10 and 10 seconds or 1 and 1 minutes etc, but the period of these arbitrary movements will be longer the more camera locking is involved. but beyond that i'm not sure what it really says. i am not quite sure what causes it to zoom out in some cases and not to zoom out in others. i think if somebody wanted to find out a way to detect if a player is using camera locks, looking at frequency and length of periods with no camera input vs the length of the replay would be a good place to start.
But hey i might be wrong on this, just really suspicious for me.
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On April 25 2013 01:50 Nyast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 01:38 Sokrates wrote:2.It is not just the preparation for the banelingbust, it is also the really odd camera movement at 7:00min if your skip back to this point which is strong evidence for a camera lock aka maphack. 3.I flame if i play hackers and 90% of the time the accusation is right, you can see that if you follow my other posts in this thread. I m not sure what your point is by quoteting this . I watched the replay and see nothing conclusive. I can't really see any weird camera movement nor camera lock around 7'. And while it's true he prepares 2 bunkers and a depot wall ( one of which he keeps down, which makes no sense if he knows a bust is coming ), it can simply be that he's playing safe after seeing your gas, maybe it's just his playstyle ? Banneling bust is still in the meta game after all..
Also when hes scouting the has... He clicks on the geyser multiple times and checks that more then 100 gas has been taking from it
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On April 25 2013 01:38 Sokrates wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing. Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:32 Xonix wrote:On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing. I double his post. He is also one of my players and I'm 100% sure that he doesn't hack. I will have a look at the replay though Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:34 Xonix wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. "05:58 [All] IIIIIlllll: sick maphack 06:12 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no. 06:17 [All] IIIIIlllll: no lol 06:54 [All] IIIIIlllll: sad fuck 07:19 [All] IIIIIlllll: ah i remember 07:24 [All] IIIIIlllll: you have been added to the TL hacker list 07:29 [All] IIIIIlllll: for everyone to see what a pathetic fuck you are 07:51 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no more shit plz 07:55 [All] IIIIIlllll: rofl" 1. Like nunez and others have stated, you can hack and still stream, he made a big post in this thread regarding streaming and hacking. 2.It is not just the preparation for the banelingbust, it is also the really odd camera movement at 7:00min if your skip back to this point which is strong evidence for a camera lock aka maphack. 3.I flame if i play hackers and 90% of the time the accusation is right, you can see that if you follow my other posts in this thread. I m not sure what your point is by quoteting this . I wanted to contact you about this anyway, i was on your clanpage and also added the members of other people you played against to my bnetcontact list, so i m glad you found this post.
You my friend are one angry ladder rager. I have been teams with him for a very long time and he has never ever been accused of hacking or anything of the sort. He is one of the most straight up people I know and very respectful. Im sorry for your lack of competence and just blaming your loss on hacking like those in bronze league do. Just because you suck does not give you the right to destroy someones reputation. Provide more credible evidence and maybe people will believe you because as of right now you just look like someone who is pissed they lost a ladder game.
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On April 25 2013 01:38 Sokrates wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing. Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:32 Xonix wrote:On April 24 2013 22:01 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. I highly doubt this, he is on my team, so I watch his stream and he does not hack. Besides, your evidence isn't 100% convincing. I double his post. He is also one of my players and I'm 100% sure that he doesn't hack. I will have a look at the replay though Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:34 Xonix wrote:On April 24 2013 16:11 Sokrates wrote:Ok the number1 hackerbuster on NA has maybe scored again!!!1 http://drop.sc/327095Name: [tlag]lagmentality Server: NA League: Masters I m not 100% sure about this but something really fishy is going on. In this game i went for a banebust, he has no scouting info besides i took gas (which is very common these days against reaper). He totally prepares for a banebust, he builds two bunker and a depotwall in front of the bunker, he also hides his marines behind the bunker preemptively. According to him he did that big investment because he saw _one_ drone mining gas (so he lacks a lot in gamesense when you think that you can banebust off of one drone). He might be really bad to do that kind of investment but then i noticed something else. If you have his vision and you already finished the replay an go back to 7:00min the camera comes out from a really weird angle every time you do this. And guess what is going on at 7.00min? I morph my banelings at his third... So if somebody can have a look at this i would be glad. Somebody was talking about this camera stuff in this thread but i cant find it. "05:58 [All] IIIIIlllll: sick maphack 06:12 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no. 06:17 [All] IIIIIlllll: no lol 06:54 [All] IIIIIlllll: sad fuck 07:19 [All] IIIIIlllll: ah i remember 07:24 [All] IIIIIlllll: you have been added to the TL hacker list 07:29 [All] IIIIIlllll: for everyone to see what a pathetic fuck you are 07:51 [All] [TLaG]LaGMentalitY: no more shit plz 07:55 [All] IIIIIlllll: rofl" 1. Like nunez and others have stated, you can hack and still stream, he made a big post in this thread regarding streaming and hacking. 2.It is not just the preparation for the banelingbust, it is also the really odd camera movement at 7:00min if your skip back to this point which is strong evidence for a camera lock aka maphack. 3.I flame if i play hackers and 90% of the time the accusation is right, you can see that if you follow my other posts in this thread. I m not sure what your point is by quoteting this . I wanted to contact you about this anyway, i was on your clanpage and also added the members of other people you played against to my bnetcontact list, so i m glad you found this post.
you are diff jumping the gun, the replays you provide does not prove a thing, he failed his proxy, so the obs thing to do vs zerg is bunker up, as above mentioned, bane/roach busts are the meta and common, I would of done the same in his spot.
Seems like way to many people this month are just saying map hack when they lose games, since after the Phys lee thing, Seeing more and more people jumping the gun and crying map hack.
Just relax and use some commons sense and re watch the replays you provided, they are pretty legit.
You would notice cam locks and other fishy behavior if he did use mh in the replays you provided.
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Here is the replay
http://drop.sc/327169
Hacker name: Pie
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
He plays a macro game which seems fine nothing out of the ordinary with that, the problem comes in when he gives on the mini-map commands which are right on top of my pylons, which he walks RIGHT TO, with out scouting. So he mini-map commands his army two times to places on the map that have my pylons, and he does not check, and gets each one perfectly. The real kicker is when he gets a 3rd pylon in the same spot that one of the killed ones was at. I don't have time right now to put in times when he does it, but just watch the replay. He kills pylon on the top with mini map commands, then pylon on the bottom. With out any scout. I am going to put in times later today.
I don't know how to check for auto commands and things like that, if someone could check for me would be great. Thank you TL.net
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