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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
April 22 2013 02:14 GMT
#5521
On April 22 2013 05:29 iAmJeffReY wrote:
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On April 22 2013 05:07 RemarK wrote:
On April 21 2013 18:48 avilo wrote:
Possible hacker: Lemonsoap
http://drop.sc/326050

Check replay, besides the fact he claims he's off racing, he's quite on top of his "spade scans" if you understand my meaning. He also never scans my base, yet continues building hellions in his "TvT" opening as if he knows i'm going for the mass hellbat drop.

After this stage, here is where it gets lulzy, multiple looks into the fog of war at army positioning, as well as obvious as fuck screen locking when doing such an inane task like "lowering and raising supply depots" at his third: He also uses zero spotter marines.

Also, it seems a lot in this replay, it will "bug" and from opponent's perspective the map cursor selection will zoom way out and happen to follow my unit movements or be focused on my base. I do not know how this happens in the replay, but going back and forward multiple times, there are a lot of points where this occurs.

First thing is he happens to send all his hellions to his third to clear out the marine/hellion i left there (he has no idea this is there, or where the medivac had gone).
13:09: random spamming of building hotkeys/depots

13:17: moves his screen and keeps it where the drop is about to fly back in. First I thought he was going to queue up a depot wall, but his screen just sits still as he's looking at "something" then he queues up the depot wall after.

13:51: he scans near where he saw my army before, could be a normal scan...

14:55: selects his ebays to queue up armor upgrade, then his screen just sorta...screenlocks?

15:24: looks into fog of war, scans where my army just was (he catches tail end of a unit), i move my army through the center of the map (i never do this in my TvTs, I wanted to see if he'd just "happen" to find my army again). Well what do you know, another look into fog of war and he issues move commands to his army directly near mine (subconscious? He sees where my shiot is and tells his army to move before scanning to confirm).

Overall, never scouts my base, never scans, never drops, plays "weird." Not that i played amazing this game, but this person does not even use spotter marines and queues up 50 units at once claiming to have "amazing mechanics" lol.


Were you streaming? I don't have time to watch the replay, but if you're streaming I think the default assumption should be stream cheating instead of maphacking. I still think people accuse too often without evidence :3


o_O I went searching his drop.sc history and there's a rep of him playing zerg accusing a protoss of hacking...and dropped your name O_O!

edit - as someone that knew him lol sorry

http://drop.sc/274826


Yeah, Alex Tarkoff = DustSwarm a GM zerg. I don't know why he thought I was that barcode. I believe he used to play team games with SenorChang until he found out he hacked, so that would explain how he knows the name.
I <3 StarCraft.
JustForU
Profile Joined April 2013
Croatia3 Posts
April 22 2013 02:47 GMT
#5522
On April 21 2013 06:46 iAmJeffReY wrote:
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On April 21 2013 06:35 ( bush wrote:
On April 21 2013 02:01 JustForU wrote:
Hackername : BKT Tropa
Server : NA
League master 1400 p zerg
Description whirlwind no scout drohne + ling pull against nexus first
exact when place nexus he select his drohnes to pull

http://drop.sc/325798


May I ask how could you instantly call him a maphacker ingame? You had NO idea that he didnt scout other spawn points in the map. I wonder who is the fishy one here.

Ya the instant maphacker call on the 81 apm protoss playing high masters......hmmmmmm




to bush :

this timing 4 drohnes in ur natural is impossible since with a normal opening cannon would be done so it would be pointless .... and that on whrilwind so it must be maphack


and to jeffrey

should i spamm apm at start from game where i go nexus first ? ... apm only matters when game goes on not if u have first 2 minutes 300 apm or 40



even my response first now just wanted to make it clear
Toosneaky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:59:38
April 22 2013 04:59 GMT
#5523
http://drop.sc/326504

Hacker name: [ITKOI] Bsubluebest
(I am unsure of how to get a link to his profile page. If someone could inform me on how to do that, I'll link his name to his profile page.)
Server : NA
League : Masters
Description:

Couple things to note:
- Does not scout at all and does a build where he has 0 wall or actual defense for a long time early game.
- Incredibly awful macro mechanics for a mid masters.

4:49 ~ Clicks on hidden ling to kill
5:46 ~ Clicks on 2nd hidden ling to kill
5:58 ~ Takes a look at my base without using any commands (IE. Didn't set rally / Didn't command a unit there)
14:37 ~ Sends phoenix back near base in fog to defend against mutas he never saw (He didn't even know I had a spire)
14:44 ~ Warps in 4 stalkers at base to preemptively defend the mutas he never saw.
Redmagic
Profile Joined April 2013
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 06:08:40
April 22 2013 06:08 GMT
#5524
ID: WaShiNgjApe (name is correct, but upper letters can be wrong.)
NA, Masters


maphacker for 100%. So obvious that no analysis needed.
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Sc2HDB
Profile Joined March 2013
Bahamas64 Posts
April 22 2013 07:37 GMT
#5525
Starcraft Hacker Database Online Checker has been updated whith the latest confirmation from Nunez. The tool has been updated to v0.8, fixing some bugs for the gateway and changed offset to have faster results. As always, you can find the official thread here : TL Official Thread and the program here http://www.starcraft2hackerdatabase.com
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
April 22 2013 09:42 GMT
#5526
On April 22 2013 15:08 Redmagic wrote:
ID: WaShiNgjApe (name is correct, but upper letters can be wrong.)
NA, Masters


maphacker for 100%. So obvious that no analysis needed.


confirmed, 3 bunkers + scv pull to defend a 4 gate with 0 scouting at all.

http://drop.sc/326553

he even confirms it http://i.imgur.com/J7jeUaL.jpg
NeV
Profile Joined July 2008
Italy370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 10:40:33
April 22 2013 10:38 GMT
#5527
On April 22 2013 15:08 Redmagic wrote:
ID: WaShiNgjApe (name is correct, but upper letters can be wrong.)
NA, Masters


maphacker for 100%. So obvious that no analysis needed.


you have to post a replay

On April 22 2013 10:52 coldscars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:16 NeV wrote:
Hacker name: WaShiNGjApe
Server: EU
League: Top Master HOTS
Description:

drop.sc

PvT on Daybreak. I open 1 gate exp into fast dt drop. His camera is locked on his base most of the time, he doesn't scout at all and plays blind with no bunkers, and perfectly counters my build, with units and turrets perfectly in place.

@3:20 he makes an expansion without moving his camera (it's blocked on his main cc).
@3:40 he throws a mule with no vision of his minerals.
@7:20 he moves his units in his main base to deflect my dt drop

It's just so evident, watch yourself, he doesn't even try to hide it.


he has been reported 4times now i think its enough :DD


I didn't see him in the list of EU hackers in the OP, so I reported him. I can't read 270 pages t.t
creepingcold
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany8 Posts
April 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#5528
I never thought it would come that far that I'd have to post in such a Thread by myself, cause I thought Blizz would have this stuff under control, and I haven't made a lot of bad experiences on eu so far.

however, my last match on NA made me tilt really hard, the guy played so blatantly, I couldn't even watch the replay more than 5 minutes into the game. It's in Diamond, don't know around which MMR cause I don't play there on regular basis.

Name: Kimchi
Server: NA
League: Diamond
Replay: http://drop.sc/326619

description:

Sorry for missing timings, but he is looking through the fog of war several times each minute anyways.

However, at the beginning he is looking several times on my buildings, his scout is just moving around "for nothing". He's always looking when I place a new building.

I hid my scouting probe at the right side of the map, and his initial stalker is rallied there, without any scouting or anything, it's just tallied there to kill my probe.

I opened with oracle - which is already awaited by stalkers, so I use the first harass attempt just to scout

On my second attempt I see his just in time warp in, which makes me suspicious

I see his nexus and decide to go all in, cause I can build more units, and know I've better mechanics, however, I underestimated the fact that he is cheating without considering any kind of obvious actions. When I arrive he spammen his natural with cannons.

I didn't watched the replay further, it goes on with a stale macro, I decide to push his third once, but even though I've control of the xel naga towers his army is always perfectly, PERFECTLY positioned.

I'm sorry for the chat, in one message I dropped my manners. I just wanted to play a warm up game for fun, didn't expected this to happen.

This game wasn't streamed.

those people deserve a lifetime ban ..
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
April 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#5529
Hacker name: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/566242/2/JIEgOKOJI/
Server: EU
League: Master HOTS
Replay: http://drop.sc/326691
Description:
-never scouts
-intercepts my oracle
-intercepts my scouting phoenix hallu
-sends units whenever i build a new warpin-pylon or base
-really, really bad player. without allseeing eye maybe silver or gold league.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
Dannus
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden9 Posts
April 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#5530
[Lyfe]Heaton NA

Super obvious maphacker.

http://drop.sc/326706

Desc: Goes 13 p /12 gas vs 10 pool bane and placing blind spine in main blind and running straight where my lings gonna morph without and info at all.
pepsy11
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark2 Posts
April 22 2013 22:58 GMT
#5531
On April 23 2013 07:47 Dannus wrote:
[Lyfe]Heaton NA

Super obvious maphacker.

http://drop.sc/326706

Desc: Goes 13 p /12 gas vs 10 pool bane and placing blind spine in main blind and running straight where my lings gonna morph without and info at all.


Another replay about [Lyfe]Heaton NA

Not as obvious in my case.. But a procution tab is quite possible, it is not until he looks at my banes through the fog at 11:07 that the maphack is clear(to me at least)

http://drop.sc/326711
I never pirated anything... it was donated... By the file-fairy.
HpplVgn
Profile Joined December 2012
27 Posts
April 23 2013 00:02 GMT
#5532
Okai , I am gonna do this really short

But I played like 20 WoL games today , and I think I only met hackers (met 6-7 different players) all with 80-120 APM (all GMs or Masters in WOL(I know WoL means shit). They dont really try to hide their hacks even, they do it so obvious. So to the point , is hacking getting out of control ?

Bulugulu
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel250 Posts
April 23 2013 05:51 GMT
#5533
I've played washingjape, who is on the confirmed hacker list and judging by our games he is indeed using maphack at least. I've reported him after each of our games, the question being - does blizzard ignore this thread and our reports? Why aren't these hackers being taken care of?
Even a known hacker playing in a tournament in an incident which received lots of coverage hasn't been banned yet (as far as I know).

I've recently started playing on NA and hacking seems much more prevalent there than on EU, so please if any blizzard employee is checking this thread - start moderating the ladder.
“Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.”
coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#5534
washigjape is now rank1 masters on NA ---- blizzard come on ban this guy its rly annoying .
\BibleThump/
creepingcold
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany8 Posts
April 23 2013 14:56 GMT
#5535
On April 23 2013 14:51 Bulugulu wrote:I've recently started playing on NA and hacking seems much more prevalent there than on EU, so please if any blizzard employee is checking this thread - start moderating the ladder.


I can confirm this experience

I'm playing currently mostly with practice partners, cause I've completely lost the trust into the ranked queue.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
April 23 2013 15:00 GMT
#5536
tbh if we get washintonape dude why not just leave game when you enter.

I feel thats the best way to play against hackers.
Is not to play against them at all. I mean if everyone were to do this his enjoyment in the game would be gone?
coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
April 23 2013 15:04 GMT
#5537
On April 24 2013 00:00 SoOJuuu wrote:
tbh if we get washintonape dude why not just leave game when you enter.

I feel thats the best way to play against hackers.
Is not to play against them at all. I mean if everyone were to do this his enjoyment in the game would be gone?


no, he has shitty mechanics and everything hes beatable with solid play. hes a awful player after all
\BibleThump/
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 23 2013 15:05 GMT
#5538
On April 24 2013 00:00 SoOJuuu wrote:
tbh if we get washintonape dude why not just leave game when you enter.

I feel thats the best way to play against hackers.
Is not to play against them at all. I mean if everyone were to do this his enjoyment in the game would be gone?


personally i just play standard vs hackers. what pisses me off is when i try to do some sneaky strat and i get an autolose. since i am prone to cheesing it's quite annoying.

play defensive and standard vs angryhobbit f.ex and he will make shitty decisions and fail at controlling his army until he leaves the game in rage.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 15:13:41
April 23 2013 15:13 GMT
#5539
its not about winning or losing vs hackers. its just ladder points at the end of the day.
I havent used that TLhacker thing that tells you if youre playing a hacker, but the theory is

if we were able to get everyone to agree not to play hackers(thanks to this program) they would get no enjoyment from hacking because they would not be able to play anygames.

It would force them to buy new accounts which of course would mean wed find out again. Rinse and repeat until they quit hacking/playing the game.

Obv this can never happen but it would be nice.(in theory)
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 23 2013 15:39 GMT
#5540
but... my ladder points... :<
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
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