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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
May 21 2012 17:27 GMT
#1261
On May 22 2012 02:15 Roffles wrote:
Too bad God still sucks at SC2.

God inside bw.

Grubby was god of wc3, and in sc2, with like a year of practice, he is just an average non-korean pro.

Flash can easily become top 10 in the world (korea), which would be great, but still far from god status.
Chicken gank op
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
May 21 2012 17:55 GMT
#1262
On May 19 2012 06:46 wcr.4fun wrote:
the units in bw simply don't clump in a ball. that's one of the biggest issues imo in sc2. besides not having brood war's micro possibilities. (I want my muta's back!) :D crossing fingers for HOTS.


I don't know what to tell you guys. Just watch high level SC2 games? I haven't noticed any clump deathballs or lack of micro for a long time until I started watching these BW players play SC2.
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
May 21 2012 18:00 GMT
#1263
On May 22 2012 02:55 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 06:46 wcr.4fun wrote:
the units in bw simply don't clump in a ball. that's one of the biggest issues imo in sc2. besides not having brood war's micro possibilities. (I want my muta's back!) :D crossing fingers for HOTS.


I don't know what to tell you guys. Just watch high level SC2 games? I haven't noticed any clump deathballs or lack of micro for a long time until I started watching these BW players play SC2.


Totally, stupid bw players schould l2p

On a more serious note: I tink some of them played actually very well, but until we see them compete in a tournament with regular sc2 players we will never really know. Thank god(not flash) we have mlg
With great power comes great responsibility.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#1264
flash macro/micro is fine he just needs to learn some strats. watched his match against effort and he stopped making siege tanks and got completely rolled when the 2nd wave of blings hit.
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
May 21 2012 18:09 GMT
#1265
On May 19 2012 07:16 gn0m wrote:
I don't really see how anyone can get hyped about these videos.. he looks like a random C/C+player on iCCup


Pretty much. And he didn't look good in PL either.

I'd imagine he'll be good eventually, but it's pretty clear he's quite behind the meta game and just isn't good right now. His reaction times looked pretty good, as did his micro; he did a damn good job microing against a ling/bling bust, just imagine if he had more siege tanks.

If anything this has just made the "elephant in the room" nonsense even more ridiculous. I saw nothing to suggest Flash or Jaedong will dominate anything this year. They won't catch MVP, DRG, Parting, etc this year
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 21 2012 18:12 GMT
#1266
On May 22 2012 03:09 PhoenixDark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:16 gn0m wrote:
I don't really see how anyone can get hyped about these videos.. he looks like a random C/C+player on iCCup


Pretty much. And he didn't look good in PL either.

I'd imagine he'll be good eventually, but it's pretty clear he's quite behind the meta game and just isn't good right now. His reaction times looked pretty good, as did his micro; he did a damn good job microing against a ling/bling bust, just imagine if he had more siege tanks.

If anything this has just made the "elephant in the room" nonsense even more ridiculous. I saw nothing to suggest Flash or Jaedong will dominate anything this year. They won't catch MVP, DRG, Parting, etc this year


Give em a few months. Beyond that, the SC2 is just emptier. Effort maxed out in 10 minutes with no roaches. If that's the future of SC2, I quit.
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 18:19:27
May 21 2012 18:17 GMT
#1267
On May 22 2012 03:12 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 03:09 PhoenixDark wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:16 gn0m wrote:
I don't really see how anyone can get hyped about these videos.. he looks like a random C/C+player on iCCup


Pretty much. And he didn't look good in PL either.

I'd imagine he'll be good eventually, but it's pretty clear he's quite behind the meta game and just isn't good right now. His reaction times looked pretty good, as did his micro; he did a damn good job microing against a ling/bling bust, just imagine if he had more siege tanks.

If anything this has just made the "elephant in the room" nonsense even more ridiculous. I saw nothing to suggest Flash or Jaedong will dominate anything this year. They won't catch MVP, DRG, Parting, etc this year


Give em a few months. Beyond that, the SC2 is just emptier. Effort maxed out in 10 minutes with no roaches. If that's the future of SC2, I quit.


effort was able to drone up and saturate 3 bases without ever making a single unit because flash never did anything, not surprising he maxed in 10 (actually it was 12 or 13?)minutes, and certainly not the future of sc2
Ameisenmann
Profile Joined April 2012
Albania296 Posts
May 21 2012 18:17 GMT
#1268
On May 22 2012 03:12 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 03:09 PhoenixDark wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:16 gn0m wrote:
I don't really see how anyone can get hyped about these videos.. he looks like a random C/C+player on iCCup


Pretty much. And he didn't look good in PL either.

I'd imagine he'll be good eventually, but it's pretty clear he's quite behind the meta game and just isn't good right now. His reaction times looked pretty good, as did his micro; he did a damn good job microing against a ling/bling bust, just imagine if he had more siege tanks.

If anything this has just made the "elephant in the room" nonsense even more ridiculous. I saw nothing to suggest Flash or Jaedong will dominate anything this year. They won't catch MVP, DRG, Parting, etc this year


Give em a few months. Beyond that, the SC2 is just emptier. Effort maxed out in 10 minutes with no roaches. If that's the future of SC2, I quit.

I think those games are more the past than the future of sc2. Also, it wasn't 10 minutes but 13, and there was no pressure at all.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
May 21 2012 18:18 GMT
#1269
I don't think flash crossed halfway across the map with an offensive unit. Yeah, it's very easy to max up then.
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 18:56:02
May 21 2012 18:24 GMT
#1270
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 18:56:38
May 21 2012 18:55 GMT
#1271
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
May 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#1272
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
May 21 2012 19:04 GMT
#1273
On May 22 2012 04:01 maximuspita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.


So basicly you think Flash would need exactly as long as...everyone else who started playing SC2 right after release?

I seriously doubt that.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
May 21 2012 19:18 GMT
#1274
On May 22 2012 04:04 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:01 maximuspita wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.


So basicly you think Flash would need exactly as long as...everyone else who started playing SC2 right after release?

I seriously doubt that.

It's just a heuristic based on average amount of time to master a skill (which is around 10K hours - http://www.psy.fsu.edu/faculty/ericsson/ericsson.exp.perf.html). Do you honestly believe Flash might win a GSL Code S before 2013?
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 21 2012 19:21 GMT
#1275
On May 22 2012 04:04 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:01 maximuspita wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.


So basicly you think Flash would need exactly as long as...everyone else who started playing SC2 right after release?

I seriously doubt that.


he would certainly not require 2 years to get to where the top sc2 pros are right now. but while flash tries to catch up, the current top players improve aswell. flash has to improve faster than them to catch up, which might very well take some time, even for someone as gifted and dedicated as him.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
May 21 2012 19:27 GMT
#1276
One note is that FlaSh took about one month (100% dedicated to BW) to start making waves in BW. Time's running out on him for an encore performance.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
May 21 2012 19:28 GMT
#1277
On May 22 2012 04:01 maximuspita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.

I give him 6months until he gets to top code S level, he really is that talented. However, to reach the level of play he has in bw it will maybe take him 2years or more.
Everything is under the assumption that he trains sc2 very seriously, which is not the case at the moment, given that he has to split up his practice time with bw.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 19:32:04
May 21 2012 19:31 GMT
#1278
hes training for the osl. after hes finish with that and this wierd hybird proleague. he will be full time sc2.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
May 21 2012 19:41 GMT
#1279
On May 22 2012 04:21 Black Gun wrote:
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On May 22 2012 04:04 sleepingdog wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:01 maximuspita wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.


So basicly you think Flash would need exactly as long as...everyone else who started playing SC2 right after release?

I seriously doubt that.


he would certainly not require 2 years to get to where the top sc2 pros are right now. but while flash tries to catch up, the current top players improve aswell. flash has to improve faster than them to catch up, which might very well take some time, even for someone as gifted and dedicated as him.


This requires two assumptions to hold:
a) BW-skills are irrelevant - they aren't, Flash basicly has the mechanics...already.
b) Everyone improves "individually" - which isn't true as well. What I mean by that is that the last 2 years the metagame has changed rather quickly because everyone has had access to many reps/vods. This will help BW-pros tremendously. They won't have to learn the game "by themselves", like someone who has never played tennis or tried to swim. They can profit from the improvements of their competitors as well.

To answer the question if Flash could win a GSL in 2012: no; but that's mainly because he won't be able to focus 100% on SC2. Even if he wants to, the psychological "pressure" to keep playing his A-game in BW will be detrimental.
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Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
May 21 2012 19:54 GMT
#1280
On May 22 2012 04:41 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:21 Black Gun wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:04 sleepingdog wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:01 maximuspita wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:55 R3demption wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:24 maximuspita wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:31 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 14 2012 12:08 dsousa wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:32 snakeeyez wrote:
Im not sure how anyone knows for 100 percent sure its actually flash, but it does look like a top player from BW. If he actually is as high ranking as people say and he has not watched any vods from current top pros its pretty amazing how good he actually played. That is a very short amount of time to be able to play against a pro sc2 player and win a competitive game with nothing more then marines tanks medivacs.


Yes, that surprised me too. How both Flash and Kawaii had the same build. They're already at the same spot in the meta game.

He just needs to swim with the big fish for a few months and then take over.

Certainly he'll have a psychological edge against most top sc2 players, especially on stage and in big matches. Its clear everyone worships him, and at the very least has a healthy respect for him. I've never seen a Korean utter a negative sentiments towards Flash. Not even remotely negative.

Fascinating to watch. Need more replays!


Not to mention Flash has a mind of steel... He literally will just will himself to several victories because he's unfazed in like any situation... Kinda like Jaedong during his Tyrant reign where Flash could barely keep up. Oh and Flash was analyzed by psychologists a couple years back, and they said his brain functions differently from the average human... It came out in national Korean television during a science show... Closest thing i can think of right now is like Mythbusters but not busting myths... just finding out cool science facts... They had him hooked up to a machine and found out that the colors and graphics of a screen barely register anything in his brain so his full brain is solely focused on the battle and not the flashy screen... That's why he can filter anything that would hinder his brainpower and only focus completely~



I would like a link of this supposed video. The one I remember was XellOs in a NatGeo documentary and it showed nothing remarkable if you know how mastery of skills work.

Personally I think Flash will dominate SC 2. Based on the fact that he dominated BW through training; not because of some special kind of brain or natural talent he was born with... I think all the level headed TLers believe just as I do, that Flash will dominate because of his amazing practice routine. 13-14 hours a day and you will be good at anything you want.

I couldn't care less if (or when for some of you) Flash will dominate in SC2 but it should take him around 1.5-2 years to get Top Code S good in SC2. That is however full 12 hours on SC2, not switching games like this season.


So basicly you think Flash would need exactly as long as...everyone else who started playing SC2 right after release?

I seriously doubt that.


he would certainly not require 2 years to get to where the top sc2 pros are right now. but while flash tries to catch up, the current top players improve aswell. flash has to improve faster than them to catch up, which might very well take some time, even for someone as gifted and dedicated as him.


This requires two assumptions to hold:
a) BW-skills are irrelevant - they aren't, Flash basicly has the mechanics...already.
b) Everyone improves "individually" - which isn't true as well. What I mean by that is that the last 2 years the metagame has changed rather quickly because everyone has had access to many reps/vods. This will help BW-pros tremendously. They won't have to learn the game "by themselves", like someone who has never played tennis or tried to swim. They can profit from the improvements of their competitors as well.

To answer the question if Flash could win a GSL in 2012: no; but that's mainly because he won't be able to focus 100% on SC2. Even if he wants to, the psychological "pressure" to keep playing his A-game in BW will be detrimental.
Not to mention he has the support of a top-tier Team house and limitless resources for learning the meta quicker (I'm sure the teams will bring in SC 2 coaches to speed up the transition faster). That plus training 14 hours a day will cover some ground pretty quickly.
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