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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
May 11 2012 17:48 GMT
#241
man i am crying a little bit
banelings
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
May 11 2012 17:48 GMT
#242
Think about how long it took Grubby, GOAT of war3, to get decent at sc2. It took him a full year to stop losing to people like Artosis, and this was back when the game was much fresher and everyone was comparitivly much worse at it. That flash can do this well in two weeks is nothing short of amazing.
I could spend a while with that smile
Kdrxone
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
May 11 2012 17:48 GMT
#243
On May 12 2012 02:45 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:30 Diavlo wrote:
Oh god. He plays marine-tanks in TVT... Artosis must be so sad.

Like really really sad. Even sadder than before...


PS: am I the only one weirded out by the fact that he plays in high graphics?

I don't see any connection with graphics settings and playability. There are pros that stream with both high and low settings.


There is connection if you play zerg. But as terran you are right .



And whats the connection as zerg? Nestea plays low, Stephano med-high, does it make any difference? Nope. All up to personal preference.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 11 2012 17:49 GMT
#244
On May 12 2012 02:43 snailz wrote:


why would i cry? i love the bw scene, Flash getting sc2 on the next level would make me a happy panda :-)



Nice try; it is truly so convincing when out of all your 400 posts, you have a single, inane post in the Broodwar forum and rest in sc2 forum.

Wipe that smug smile off your mug.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 11 2012 17:49 GMT
#245
On May 12 2012 02:43 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:40 TheAntZ wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:38 phosphorylation wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:31 snailz wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:

especially this guy.


i commented on flash in one sentence. one.

the rest was for bw elitists and brainwashing the sc2 community for months that their game is so easy a monkey from bw could dominate it.

now we see that's not the case, so how bout you let everyone enjoy it for a minute, ok? ;-)

are you even comprehending the intrigue quote that you proudly brandish as your sig? he says "with a latency of a few months."


To be fair, 'latency' is too big a word to fit in so closed a mind.


i must've really hit a soft spot for someone as respectable as you to resort to such common ways of trying to insult complete stranger over the internet... twice! )))

i happily receive your truth induced rage.


Yeah, actually, you have. And its not the whole sc2>BW argument, its the fact that you dont bother using any fucking logic. You keep saying 'ooo bw players are shit', guess what, MVP already proved you wrong. Nestea proved you wrong. MC proved you wrong. Now someone comes in whos raping face against grandmasters after ONE month of 50% sc2 practice 50% bw practice, and you say "LOL LOOK AT THE NEWBIE"

???

Where is the logic? Which sc2 pro actually picked up the game and started winning tournaments within 2 weeks?
Name me one, go ahead.
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GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
May 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#246
On May 12 2012 02:48 Kdrxone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:45 pallad wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:30 Diavlo wrote:
Oh god. He plays marine-tanks in TVT... Artosis must be so sad.

Like really really sad. Even sadder than before...


PS: am I the only one weirded out by the fact that he plays in high graphics?

I don't see any connection with graphics settings and playability. There are pros that stream with both high and low settings.


There is connection if you play zerg. But as terran you are right .



And whats the connection as zerg? Nestea plays low, Stephano med-high, does it make any difference? Nope. All up to personal preference.


creep on the higher quality is both distracting and takes a lot out of your pc, that's why most zergs prefer the game on lower settings
Standard.
dextrin303
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden320 Posts
May 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#247
So epic ^.^
After 1 month he's already in high masters korea... wow.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
May 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#248
On May 12 2012 02:48 Kdrxone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:45 pallad wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:30 Diavlo wrote:
Oh god. He plays marine-tanks in TVT... Artosis must be so sad.

Like really really sad. Even sadder than before...


PS: am I the only one weirded out by the fact that he plays in high graphics?

I don't see any connection with graphics settings and playability. There are pros that stream with both high and low settings.


There is connection if you play zerg. But as terran you are right .



And whats the connection as zerg? Nestea plays low, Stephano med-high, does it make any difference? Nope. All up to personal preference.


I guess he was referring to creep, which can be a machine killer on some systems with settings set too high.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#249
On May 12 2012 02:47 Davis23 wrote:
#11 in Masters, already better than IdrA and most foreigners :D

Looks like Flash likes Scans and Bunkers ALOT!

you mean like the flash of old? the only thing missing is massive amounts of turret rings.
Kdrxone
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
May 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#250
On May 12 2012 02:47 rhs408 wrote:
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On May 12 2012 02:33 aTnClouD wrote:
I understand the hype and I'm excited too but the people saying he plays well in these 2 vods are funny.

I wonder what you were expecting to see... I can understand you not being impressed per se, but to say that he's not even playing "well"? Wow.



I don't understand why posts like that keep coming up in this thread. If you were watching the same videos without knowing it's Flash, I'm quite positive that you wouldn't have the same impression you've got now.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#251
On May 12 2012 02:45 Seldentar wrote:
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On May 12 2012 02:41 MisterTea wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:37 wbirdy wrote:
In the second video he outmacro-ed Apocalypse on equal bases, and crushed him by pushing edges and barely winning each engage. If that isn't impressive I don't know what is.

on equal bases without any mules u might add . was awesome


That actually is really impressive... I thought he was playing a random high masters player but Apocalypse is really good. I've seen Apocalypse take games off Thorzain so..

Apocalypse did beat GuMiHo(GSL semi-finalist) 2-0 on some team league.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#252
On May 12 2012 02:50 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:45 Seldentar wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:41 MisterTea wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:37 wbirdy wrote:
In the second video he outmacro-ed Apocalypse on equal bases, and crushed him by pushing edges and barely winning each engage. If that isn't impressive I don't know what is.

on equal bases without any mules u might add . was awesome


That actually is really impressive... I thought he was playing a random high masters player but Apocalypse is really good. I've seen Apocalypse take games off Thorzain so..

Apocalypse did beat GuMiHo(GSL semi-finalist) 2-0 on some team league.


He beat GuMiho 3-0 in the IPL Arena of Champions iirc.
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snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
May 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#253
On May 12 2012 02:49 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:43 snailz wrote:


why would i cry? i love the bw scene, Flash getting sc2 on the next level would make me a happy panda :-)



Nice try; it is truly so convincing when out of all your 400 posts, you have a single, inane post in the Broodwar forum and rest in sc2 forum.

Wipe that smug smile off your mug.


yes, because you can't love broodwar as a game and korean scene as a whole if you don't mingle with the elitists on TL. ))))
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#254
On May 12 2012 02:49 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:43 snailz wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:40 TheAntZ wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:38 phosphorylation wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:31 snailz wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:

especially this guy.


i commented on flash in one sentence. one.

the rest was for bw elitists and brainwashing the sc2 community for months that their game is so easy a monkey from bw could dominate it.

now we see that's not the case, so how bout you let everyone enjoy it for a minute, ok? ;-)

are you even comprehending the intrigue quote that you proudly brandish as your sig? he says "with a latency of a few months."


To be fair, 'latency' is too big a word to fit in so closed a mind.


i must've really hit a soft spot for someone as respectable as you to resort to such common ways of trying to insult complete stranger over the internet... twice! )))

i happily receive your truth induced rage.


Yeah, actually, you have. And its not the whole sc2>BW argument, its the fact that you dont bother using any fucking logic. You keep saying 'ooo bw players are shit', guess what, MVP already proved you wrong. Nestea proved you wrong. MC proved you wrong. Now someone comes in whos raping face against grandmasters after ONE month of 50% sc2 practice 50% bw practice, and you say "LOL LOOK AT THE NEWBIE"

???

Where is the logic? Which sc2 pro actually picked up the game and started winning tournaments within 2 weeks?
Name me one, go ahead.

just drop it, its not worth the effort to get something into someone like him. You are just hitting a brick wall of retard.
Kdrxone
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:52:32
May 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#255
On May 12 2012 02:50 GuardianEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:48 Kdrxone wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:45 pallad wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:30 Diavlo wrote:
Oh god. He plays marine-tanks in TVT... Artosis must be so sad.

Like really really sad. Even sadder than before...


PS: am I the only one weirded out by the fact that he plays in high graphics?

I don't see any connection with graphics settings and playability. There are pros that stream with both high and low settings.


There is connection if you play zerg. But as terran you are right .



And whats the connection as zerg? Nestea plays low, Stephano med-high, does it make any difference? Nope. All up to personal preference.


creep on the higher quality is both distracting and takes a lot out of your pc, that's why most zergs prefer the game on lower settings



I am aware of that, I myself play zerg and can't stand creep on high shaders (affects the way creep looks the most with high terrain setting). I just dont see a straightforward connection to an extent of making almost a RULE out of it.


On May 12 2012 02:50 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:48 Kdrxone wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:45 pallad wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:30 Diavlo wrote:
Oh god. He plays marine-tanks in TVT... Artosis must be so sad.

Like really really sad. Even sadder than before...


PS: am I the only one weirded out by the fact that he plays in high graphics?

I don't see any connection with graphics settings and playability. There are pros that stream with both high and low settings.


There is connection if you play zerg. But as terran you are right .



And whats the connection as zerg? Nestea plays low, Stephano med-high, does it make any difference? Nope. All up to personal preference.


I guess he was referring to creep, which can be a machine killer on some systems with settings set too high.

WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
May 11 2012 17:52 GMT
#256
Second game was pretty sweet to watch, looked pretty solid. The MULE macro could of helped him even more, even though he smashed his opponent.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
May 11 2012 17:53 GMT
#257
On May 12 2012 01:59 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either.



Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain.

"super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically.

Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners)


Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?


Depends on the timeframe. In the 2009-2010 season I rarely saw anything below 300. His final against Movie were between 310-360. The WCG game against Jaedong on Tau Cross was ~320 (there were replays) and I believe that was his slowest of the series. I seem to remember that he was slower the year before that and maybe slower during his injury.\

And ofc 330-350 isn't particularly fast either, for the best player in the world. Hiya was between 350 and 400 when he streamed after his retirement.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
May 11 2012 17:53 GMT
#258
Can't wait until he figures out that MULES are awesome.
rC.
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden15 Posts
May 11 2012 17:53 GMT
#259
My god.
Chills. Down my spine.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 11 2012 17:54 GMT
#260
Is it actually confirmed that the tvt was against apocalypse? The games were decent but not exceptional play, no doubt he will improve as he gets more practice.
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