Unranked Matchmaking in HoTS - Delay It? - Page 5

On May 11 2012 19:01 Alaiz wrote:
This is a great idea, but i'm afraid about smurfs diamond/masters account who can go on lower leagues freely and play infinite unranked marches in order to roflstomp on bronzies. Then this unranked system would be completely useless for very low leagues, and even more stressful for bronzies to play against people who are potentially going to stomp on them...

I do think that these unranked matches should be only warm up, and can only be played 3 or 4 times a day... Well, what do you think guys?

On May 11 2012 23:18 gronnelg wrote:

I figured you would have two different MMRs: One for ladder, and one for the unranked.
Anyone knows anything about this?

On May 11 2012 23:52 Badfatpanda wrote:
I think unranked will just reinforce the fact that nobody should really care about league and points, they should be more focused on skill as long as it does you an MMR system similar to ranked 1v1.

I still feel that it will suffer in the same sense as custom games though, there is no loss of points to deal with if you don't like your position, don't like what race you're paired against, don't like the map. I feel in the end regardless of how many people want it now, after implementation they might just change their minds and suck it up and play ranked.

I don't want to come across as completely against it either, it will definitely have its place and I'm sure that many people will get much use of it, however I don't think it's the bright green pasture people want, though there's no way to tell until it's implemented. The OP kind of confused me, if you are asking if we're OK with delaying HotS until this is out, fucking hell no. It would be a completely idiotic move in a business sense, if you're going to market an expansion, the overwhelming majority will buy it if they like the original game. If they don't, then they're more hesitant to purchase the expansion and something like this may tip them in favor of it. Great, but don't fucking delay the expansion for the overwhelming majority of people who will already purchase it.

On May 11 2012 08:50 IPA wrote:
I'm anti unranked ladder period because it coddles all of the "terrified" players from stepping into the joy and heartbreak of true ladder. I think it'll raise up a new crop of cowards in HotS.

On May 11 2012 18:14 Pwnani wrote:
OP: this is retarded, unless you assume that your rank carries over from WOL. My guess is that it won't. Thus, in order to have unranked matchmaking(based on play) its almost guarenteed that you will have to play a few games on ladder or they won't have any way of determining what skill level you are at, unless there is something I am not thinking of. But yea, I wouldn't worry about it, but probably you will have to play ladder unless unranked matchmaking has an mmr of its own.

On May 12 2012 00:39 opisska wrote:
There is a serious question that is being ignored since it has been announced: will unranked matches change your MMR? There are two options, both are somewhat equally bad:

1. yes: You can just ditch a couple of unranked matches on purpose and go play ladder against easier oponents, gain points, profit.

2. no: If you play too many unranked matches, your skill may stray away from your MMR, making matchmaking essentially useless.

You should keep in mind that the only valuable part of the ladder is the matchmaking. Points, leagues, ranks are just for show - it is the system matching your MMR with the oponent's what makes you have good games, because you get balanced oponents. If there is a risk that unranked matchmaking damages the reliability of matchmaking, I say it is definitely not worth it, just to make a bunch of unreasonable people feel better about thier "rank".

Also, why does everybody keep saying that it is good for offracing and stuff? You will carry on your ladder MMR with you, so you will be getting games as badly outmached, as if you played ladder.

edit: "unraked" is a pretty cool typo