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Sup3rior
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden442 Posts
May 09 2012 12:27 GMT
#101
On May 09 2012 14:55 Enzymatic wrote:
Look, its another one of those "care way too much about something insignificant/irrelevant" threads.

User was warned for this post



yeah haha!!
HELLO!!! lol! :D
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
May 09 2012 12:32 GMT
#102
Barcode names made sense in BW, where you had to type a persons name on bnet to get any meaningful info about them, but in sc2 it's all done with drop down menus and context menus, so it doesn't really change anything.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 13:05:38
May 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#103
On May 09 2012 21:17 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 20:36 Sorkoas wrote:
This is what you get when you decided to bring Facebook to Battle.net to shut down anonymity by also not allowing players to have multiple ID's. Which is also a big reason for people's so called ladder fear. I wish you could do like in WC3 and have more ID's.
I never really considered facebook as contributing to the pandemic of ladder anxiety. I guess that's because I've never had an account on there, though.

It was a joke about real ID referring to the fact that you can use an app to find friends on Facebook who have B.net accounts.

Edit: With ladder fear I meant real ID being part of it as well as how you are only allowed to have one ladder ID.
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
May 09 2012 13:10 GMT
#104
On May 09 2012 22:03 Sorkoas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 21:17 imMUTAble787 wrote:
On May 09 2012 20:36 Sorkoas wrote:
This is what you get when you decided to bring Facebook to Battle.net to shut down anonymity by also not allowing players to have multiple ID's. Which is also a big reason for people's so called ladder fear. I wish you could do like in WC3 and have more ID's.
I never really considered facebook as contributing to the pandemic of ladder anxiety. I guess that's because I've never had an account on there, though.

It was a joke about real ID referring to the fact that you can use an app to find friends on Facebook who have B.net accounts.

Edit: With ladder fear I meant real ID being part of it as well as how you are only allowed to have one ladder ID.



Yeah, I figured thats what you were getting at.
*eternalenvy fanboy*
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44918 Posts
May 09 2012 13:13 GMT
#105
On May 09 2012 14:57 Megaliskuu wrote:
Flash said hes been practicing sc2 hard for 10 days, not a big deal lol.


10 days? So what's his rank on the GM ladder?

In all seriousness, I'm surprised to hear that BW pros are complaining about how tough it is to get a hold on SC2. Obviously they'll need practice partners or a lot of time to grind on the ladder, but I don't see it making much of a difference if they come across a barcode ID on ladder or not. There are still tons of pro replays to study as well.

Also: Not GGing is BM? Welcome to Korea, eh? Haha just imagine if they understood our BM thread...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mantraz
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 15:31:36
May 09 2012 15:30 GMT
#106
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.


Could one rebind the hotkeys locally and work around this? I realise it's a bit of a hassle but saying you make
1->0
2->9
...
5-5

Your ingame hotkeys would be trippy to keep track of but i dont think this is a huge factor for most players (some even hide them...)

If it's capturing keypresses, then it won't, but if its reading what control group you access, then it would i suppose?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 15:34:47
May 09 2012 15:33 GMT
#107
On May 10 2012 00:30 Mantraz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.


Could one rebind the hotkeys locally and work around this? I realise it's a bit of a hassle but saying you make
1->0
2->9
...
5-5

Your ingame hotkeys would be trippy to keep track of but i dont think this is a huge factor for most players (some even hide them...)

If it's capturing keypresses, then it won't, but if its reading what control group you access, then it would i suppose?


You could also look at their APM patterns in SC2Gears.

I actually think there are Korean Team Staff who go through replays trying to identify smurfs from their Teams ladder replays just to get information for upcoming opponents.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
May 09 2012 15:42 GMT
#108
It's not a trend. It's players hiding their identity to practice builds, remain anonymous from random fans etc, or just not be easily identifiable (oh look I'm playing player X, do Y for easy win).
My Natural Selection (HL1 FPS mod) team did this exact thing so the other team couldn't identify who is who for a little mind-game advantage, for example.
There's probably a few people that are like HEY THIS IS FUNNYLOLOL and use the name, but it is certainly not the reason the pros are doing it.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
May 09 2012 15:43 GMT
#109
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.


not really, for smurf accounts you look at hotkey patterns and then you know that for example "gamekiller" is actually "flash" and next time you see it you know who you're playing against. With barcodes when only thing you see is IIIIIIIIIII, you would need to check replay and check hotkey patterns after every game and look who you played against actually because everyone has same nick.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 09 2012 15:45 GMT
#110
On May 10 2012 00:43 bLah. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.


not really, for smurf accounts you look at hotkey patterns and then you know that for example "gamekiller" is actually "flash" and next time you see it you know who you're playing against. With barcodes when only thing you see is IIIIIIIIIII, you would need to check replay and check hotkey patterns after every game and look who you played against actually because everyone has same nick.


it doesn't matter if you don't know who you're playing on the ladder, but if you're able to find out after that ladder game what builds a Code S player is practicing for his next match against you or your teammate, that is a huge informational advantage.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
May 09 2012 15:47 GMT
#111
Kinda Ironic that Anyppi is top 50 GM
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
May 09 2012 15:48 GMT
#112
I hope Blizzard eventually reveals who they are.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
May 09 2012 15:48 GMT
#113
I always thought that it was a bunch of vertical bars ;p "||||||||||||||"
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
May 09 2012 15:53 GMT
#114
On May 10 2012 00:48 GT350 wrote:
I hope Blizzard eventually reveals who they are.


wat
I'm Jeff Goldblum
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 09 2012 15:57 GMT
#115
So what does this mean about the elephant in the room?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44918 Posts
May 09 2012 16:07 GMT
#116
On May 10 2012 00:57 Denzil wrote:
So what does this mean about the elephant in the room?


It means that the elephants are actually being put in a zoo... or a jail.

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They're behind bars.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
May 09 2012 16:12 GMT
#117
On May 09 2012 14:40 stupidhydro wrote:
Well the barcode names and hidden identities was inevitable since build orders, maps and who people are practicing with are all available in match history...


yes blizz should just remove that.
it should only be viewable to the persons that played that game.
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
May 09 2012 16:17 GMT
#118
Hotkey patterns means using a program like this: http://bwchart.teamliquid.net/us/bwchart.php

Just have to wait until someone makes such a program :D
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 16:24:13
May 09 2012 16:22 GMT
#119
On May 09 2012 21:32 Loophole wrote:
Barcode names made sense in BW, where you had to type a persons name on bnet to get any meaningful info about them, but in sc2 it's all done with drop down menus and context menus, so it doesn't really change anything.


Still makes sense as you can only get their Win/Lose ration, there's not much info available on battle.net, and if it's a shared account, it's even less info.

Edit: And Custom Games should absolutely not have the info stored on B.net. Ladder games is fine, as top pros don't usually develop secret strats on the public ladder, but having to have many accounts to keep your games hidden and/or use custom build order hiding maps is a bit excessive.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 09 2012 16:24 GMT
#120
On May 10 2012 01:17 musai wrote:
Hotkey patterns means using a program like this: http://bwchart.teamliquid.net/us/bwchart.php

Just have to wait until someone makes such a program :D

You mean sc2gears that does like twice as much and has been out for 2 years? :D
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