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On May 09 2012 16:50 Gosi wrote:
I remember when all the broodwar pro's were smurfing on iccup and they got busted insta through hotkey patterns. Poor Bisu even switched up his hotkeys to stay anonymous but it still didn't work lol.
Tbh its pretty easy to tell when chokoslam was the only player on iccup with perfect corsair control.
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On May 09 2012 17:10 figq wrote:
So they didn't all get insta-GM, doesn't mean anything really. But cool to know. The phrase accidentally also implies that some *did* get GM already, which for such a short period and still not even understanding the game is quite the feat.
Well, Dailyesports has an article saying that B-teamers who had more time to play SC2 are "much better" than their A-teamers who only recently started playing about a month ago or so. Obviously, those A-teamers aren't quite happy, because they may become B-teamers once complete switch takes place.
Tomorrow, Kespa is going to announce the format for proleague so I expect there would be more of these type of news, especially if some of the rumors floating around regarding the format turn out to be true.
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very few koreans gg, barcode or no, at high masters/gm on korea anyway.
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To be fixed in a future patch?
Taking a wild stab at the modus operandi of Blizzard ... and they'll wait another months to see if the trend grows, more spots occupied by smurfs and bar code smurfers, and patch in something barring them from top spots. Banned names, emails alleging account sharing ... etc. Putting that out there.
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I don't even see the issue, thats like smurfing just that they all use the same ID, in this case it's a barcode. If everyone would name themselves 1337sc2imba it would be the exact same thing. And I really don't see the problem here, if you care about laddering you shouldn't care about who you are facing in the first place, just there race.
Also battletags will most likely "fix" this issue as those are unique, aren't they?
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On May 09 2012 17:57 Danglars wrote:
To be fixed in a future patch?
Taking a wild stab at the modus operandi of Blizzard ... and they'll wait another months to see if the trend grows, more spots occupied by smurfs and bar code smurfers, and patch in something barring them from top spots. Banned names, emails alleging account sharing ... etc. Putting that out there.
Na dont think this will be fixed. This is exactly what blizzard wants, "wanna smurf? go ahead, but give us your money first". They are basically seeing the fruit of restricting people to just one account per registration.
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smart to bar code, wonder why more pro's don't do it, don't see a problem with no gg either, rarely gg myself when laddering. guess its a korean thing mostly. surprising that people are actually angered by the bar code.
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On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.
That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled.
I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything.
Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense.
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Great, now the Koreans have found the weakness of the English language, indistinguishable letters...
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I face about three different "barcode" players who are around my mmr level. They're everywhere.
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On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense.
When you say "in settings" do you mean in-game or do you need a separate program for that?
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On May 09 2012 18:28 Legatus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense. When you say "in settings" do you mean in-game or do you need a separate program for that?
in-game hotkey settings.
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Im no BW fan but I want to defend those BW players scared to ladder. It is to be expected really. They are entering a new game which everyone else has been playing for 2 years already. Of course they'd be scared in the beginning. That's just a natural response.
Once SC2 proleague starts and all the SC2 teams come to their home turf, they'll feel more comfortable.
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On May 09 2012 18:34 deth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:28 Legatus wrote:On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense. When you say "in settings" do you mean in-game or do you need a separate program for that? in-game hotkey settings.
Hmm, that's strange. I can't seem to find that option to scramble the hotkeys. Could you please point out where that setting is?
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On May 09 2012 18:41 Legatus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:34 deth wrote:On May 09 2012 18:28 Legatus wrote:On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense. When you say "in settings" do you mean in-game or do you need a separate program for that? in-game hotkey settings. Hmm, that's strange. I can't seem to find that option to scramble the hotkeys. Could you please point out where that setting is?
You can have control groups go downwards from 0, so if you press '1', it actually turns up as Hotkey 0 on your interface.
I use it to have my upgrades on ~, which show up as 0 in-game.
Do that with all your hotkeys, and you've scrambled em
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On May 09 2012 18:41 Legatus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:34 deth wrote:On May 09 2012 18:28 Legatus wrote:On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense. When you say "in settings" do you mean in-game or do you need a separate program for that? in-game hotkey settings. Hmm, that's strange. I can't seem to find that option to scramble the hotkeys. Could you please point out where that setting is?
Just bind your 1 to 9 and your 9 to 1.
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On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense.
Doing this frequently enough could probably confuse matters, but if it really ever gets to the point it was in BW, it won't make a difference I think. Players were found not solely by which hotkeys they used, but rather the number of them and the frequency with which they used them. Moving them around can help to hide you, but it wouldn't necessarily save the players with the most recognizable hotkey patterns.
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On May 09 2012 18:51 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:41 Legatus wrote:On May 09 2012 18:34 deth wrote:On May 09 2012 18:28 Legatus wrote:On May 09 2012 18:19 YoiChiBow wrote:On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players. That's not true at all. You can alter your hotkey setup in settings where your hotkeys are normal to you but when you check it in a replay or obs the game, they are scrambled. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it well. I've messed around with it myself and you can make some funny hotkey setups without actually changing anything. Its like "Set Control Group 9" and you bind that to Control 1. So whenever you bind units to "1"... it shows up as Control Group 9 in ur hotkeys in the replay. Not sure if that makes total sense. When you say "in settings" do you mean in-game or do you need a separate program for that? in-game hotkey settings. Hmm, that's strange. I can't seem to find that option to scramble the hotkeys. Could you please point out where that setting is? Just bind your 1 to 9 and your 9 to 1.
OK, thanks for the answers. This makes sense. I don't know how helpful that would be though. Unless you changed your whole setup every single game, your games could still be identified. Also this doesn't take care of things like hotkeying all your production to the same hotkey as Terran, or hotkeying certain types of units together, etc.
That's why I thought there was some program that really randomised your whole setup every game, so as to make it completely impossible to figure out who's playing.
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I faced two in a row today at high masters, both were new accounts. Seems like a lot of non-pros are doing this to feel cool, but yeah obviously some of them are progamers.
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Surprised the koreans haven't checked hotkey patterns, often a dead giveaway.
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