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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
May 09 2012 10:19 GMT
#81
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.

no because in sc2 you can rehotkey ctrl 1 to ctrl 8 so u see some players doing 9 amove 9 amove which makes everyone undetectable
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 09 2012 10:24 GMT
#82

On the other hand, BW progamers who recently started to practice SC2 are feeling hopeless because current skill standard among pre-existing SC2 players is so high that it is too arduous to catch up
.

That's kinda surprising.
fOrGG and Hyun aren't perhaps the top level right now but they iddn't seems to have such problems. They took 6 to 8 month to make the switch confortably but they made it. :o
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 09 2012 10:24 GMT
#83
On May 09 2012 19:19 ECdesRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.

no because in sc2 you can rehotkey ctrl 1 to ctrl 8 so u see some players doing 9 amove 9 amove which makes everyone undetectable

The patterns and usage of hotkeys remains identical, they just push different keys.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 09 2012 10:26 GMT
#84
On May 09 2012 19:24 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +

On the other hand, BW progamers who recently started to practice SC2 are feeling hopeless because current skill standard among pre-existing SC2 players is so high that it is too arduous to catch up
.

That's kinda surprising.
fOrGG and Hyun aren't perhaps the top level right now but they iddn't seems to have such problems. They took 6 to 8 month to make the switch confortably but they made it. :o

Hyun is only just starting to get good. You should see his first few appearances in the Korean Weekly. He was absolutely horrible.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 09 2012 10:26 GMT
#85
On May 09 2012 15:36 GTR wrote:
Barcoding is going to become obsolete once someone figures out the hotkey patterns of these players.

It's not that easy. A lot of Zergs for example use the exact same hotkeys (korean style is hotkeying single hatches, hotkeying no queens at all, it's very common to reproduce).

+ Show Spoiler +
But then again...can you copy Zerg builds? :D
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
May 09 2012 10:51 GMT
#86
On May 09 2012 14:40 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
These player names may look like barcodes to you, but all I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead, jaedong, flash.

Is the red head Torch?
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
May 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#87
It's just a really shitty trendy thing right now. People won't stop using it until it's not cool anymore, so what can be done by the community or Blizzard to stop this nonsense?
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
May 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#88
Is there a reason why we should be "mad" about this ?
The bws pros aren't gm level yet and they will most likely do inhouse practice... i don't think anyone actually "practices" on korean ladder atm, didn't even Artosis recognize that atm everything that you find there is guys with IIIIIIIllllllllllll names doing 1 very strong and hard to notice all in, im pretty sure he said so a few sotg ago.
If people don't want to play ladder other than to all in i say let them do it, more power to the EU and NA ladder, actually anything that makes the KR ladder worse should be a reason to be "happy" cuz it allows NA and EU to at least catch up by having a stronger ladder.
And the maphacker problem is not related to this since blizzard does not ban them anyway unless there ban bot "finds" them.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 09 2012 11:14 GMT
#89
On May 09 2012 19:59 TigerKarl wrote:
It's just a really shitty trendy thing right now. People won't stop using it until it's not cool anymore, so what can be done by the community or Blizzard to stop this nonsense?

How is it nonsense? It's the best way to hide your identity and strategies, especially if you share the account.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 09 2012 11:16 GMT
#90
I smell bw programers
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 09 2012 11:19 GMT
#91
It would be a lot funnier if they all just used one name for their ladder accounts (as in, one that means something, not symbols)

Would be hilarious seeing KR GM filled with EGIdrA or SlayerS_BoxeR or Bisu names.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 09 2012 11:20 GMT
#92
On May 09 2012 19:59 TigerKarl wrote:
It's just a really shitty trendy thing right now. People won't stop using it until it's not cool anymore, so what can be done by the community or Blizzard to stop this nonsense?

Everyone was using smurfs in BW and everyone will use smurfs in KR Ladder when the influx of pro players will increase, instead of hitting 9 average joes out of 10 you will be heating 9 pros out of 10. Blizzard can hide the damn build order lists (its stupid) but the reason for smurfs always will be there. The only people who will go by real nicks will be the one who stream because they care about the ad revenue meaning ladder play is their income.
Stork[gm]
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
May 09 2012 11:22 GMT
#93
On May 09 2012 20:12 Aterons_toss wrote:
Is there a reason why we should be "mad" about this ?
The bws pros aren't gm level yet and they will most likely do inhouse practice... i don't think anyone actually "practices" on korean ladder atm, didn't even Artosis recognize that atm everything that you find there is guys with IIIIIIIllllllllllll names doing 1 very strong and hard to notice all in, im pretty sure he said so a few sotg ago.
If people don't want to play ladder other than to all in i say let them do it, more power to the EU and NA ladder, actually anything that makes the KR ladder worse should be a reason to be "happy" cuz it allows NA and EU to at least catch up by having a stronger ladder.
And the maphacker problem is not related to this since blizzard does not ban them anyway unless there ban bot "finds" them.


I doubt you have actually played on korean ladder at all recently, because you are talking absolute rubbish.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#94
Ugh, I hate when people do this and there's no point-click interface for ignoring them -_-
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
huStl.e
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom104 Posts
May 09 2012 11:31 GMT
#95
On May 09 2012 14:40 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
These player names may look like barcodes to you, but all I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead, jaedong, flash.

I think this wins team liquid. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


People getting upset that somones name is IIlIlIIlllllll is a bit silly to be honest. However i can understand why some BW pro's might want to keep their identities hidden.
Give it a couple of months and this wont be a problem when some of the people behind these names feel more comfortable saying who they are.
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c78331
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece64 Posts
May 09 2012 11:31 GMT
#96
Identifying barcode players without good% is really hard but the ones at the top of the ladder can be identified rather easily with a few replays ,then just put a note on them and it's done.
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
May 09 2012 11:36 GMT
#97
This is what you get when you decided to bring Facebook to Battle.net to shut down anonymity by also not allowing players to have multiple ID's. Which is also a big reason for people's so called ladder fear. I wish you could do like in WC3 and have more ID's.
Hertzy
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland355 Posts
May 09 2012 11:51 GMT
#98
What I don't understand about barcoding is why bother with an unique code at all. With the way Bnet characters are broken right now, everyone could register a character with the name ||||||| and telling one apart from the others becomes that much harder.
My dotabuff: http://dotabuff.com/players/94774350
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#99
I guess the only thing you can do is to be anonymous yourself, like ToD says it puts you at a disadvantage if you face these players in tournaments later and you already showed them your playstyle etc. I don't know if we'll see any solution to this other than more barcode users.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
May 09 2012 12:17 GMT
#100
On May 09 2012 20:36 Sorkoas wrote:
This is what you get when you decided to bring Facebook to Battle.net to shut down anonymity by also not allowing players to have multiple ID's. Which is also a big reason for people's so called ladder fear. I wish you could do like in WC3 and have more ID's.


I never really considered facebook as contributing to the pandemic of ladder anxiety. I guess that's because I've never had an account on there, though.

I agree about bnet 2.0 being awful in how it restricts peoples ability to just play and improve how they want to. You can't restart, etc.
*eternalenvy fanboy*
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