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On September 21 2014 21:26 [7x]Skirmish wrote:
Hello, sir.
I am using the plugin for a long time (about 2 years), but I never understood what the Promotionline actually stands for. I mean, does this line show minimum MMR to promote to platinum or to promote from platinum?
The promotion line stands for the low threshold of each league. When you go over such line you are usually promoted (the calculations have error margins, so they are not always exact, so the promotion often happens either slightly lower or higher. Also due data errors incorrect values are sometimes given. See below).
On September 21 2014 21:26 [7x]Skirmish wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Another question is what should I do if I have too much bad \ missing games.
If you have lots of missing games then the MMR estimations are incorrect until you get your next 'good game'. Thus if you forget to record some of your games, then just use the tool. But remember the recent estimate values will be incorrect until you get your next 'good game'. Of course if only few games are missing, then the estimate error is not that much (on average MMR changes 16 points per one match to either direction).
On September 21 2014 21:26 [7x]Skirmish wrote:The plugin has gone crazy, the left side of the graph represents my MMR when i was in gold league, and the right is plat: + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +
ANALYSER
1 false platinum -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 Justin
2 false diamond -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 Ragequitzerg
3 false diamond -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 Snopy
4 false diamond 61 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 28 toto
5 false diamond 92 opp diamond 56 errormargin 28 merchant
6 false diamond -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 Rose
7 false diamond -9999 opp diamond 97 errormargin 0 Johnnie
8 false diamond -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 WhitePhoenix
9 false diamond -9999 opp diamond 85 errormargin 0 IlIlIlIlIlIl
10 false diamond -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 Nabla
11 true gold 197 opp gold 233 errormargin 29 eVERLAST
12 false gold -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 Hacip
13 true gold 209 opp gold 75 errormargin 30 ExRiot
14 false platinum -9999 opp gold -9999 errormargin 0 ZOMBiE
15 false platinum 91 opp platinum 73 errormargin 28 sven
16 false platinum -9999 opp diamond -9999 errormargin 0 Affinity
17 false platinum 59 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 29 Noodles
18 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 Mykonos
19 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 60 errormargin 0 THRUSTMASTER
20 false platinum 73 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 28 Seraphim
21 false platinum 97 opp platinum 47 errormargin 28 Dafuq
22 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 Dafuq
23 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 NurseTard
24 false platinum 60 opp platinum 95 errormargin 28 Lgds%C7%82Shido
25 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 60 errormargin 0 Spectre
26 false platinum 45 opp platinum 77 errormargin 28 Harrdowner
27 false platinum 48 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 29 Necros
28 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 71 errormargin 0 Quimera
29 false platinum 82 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 28 Karamba
30 false platinum 65 opp platinum 75 errormargin 30 BalThaZaR
31 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 cURE
32 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 Amunzen
33 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 86 errormargin 0 SoldierS
34 false platinum 77 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 28 sunny
35 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 ZATUPAN
36 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 72 errormargin 0 Quimera
37 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 Ricocotam
38 false platinum -9999 opp error -9999 errormargin 0 Erthain
39 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 BiTTzuX
40 true platinum 154 opp gold -9999 errormargin 28 Joker
41 false platinum -9999 opp gold -9999 errormargin 0 Kishin
42 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 90 errormargin 0 chudatta
43 false platinum 51 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 29 Quarz
44 false platinum 68 opp platinum 101 errormargin 30 Chillidawg
45 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 62 errormargin 0 PainIsVapo
46 false platinum -9999 opp platinum 47 errormargin 0 SaroX
47 false platinum -9999 opp silver 81 errormargin 0 TORPEURE
48 false platinum -9999 opp platinum -9999 errormargin 0 masyy
Gamecount: 48
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Finetuning:
Avg dif :3.0625
Game: 13
jump: -12
Correction: -12
Avg dif after finetune :2.5625
Which definetely cannot be true as I am currently winning more than loosing and progressing to Diamond. Maybe I should do a full reset or something? If yes, then how can I do a full reset? Should I delete all the plugin files
The value from the match against 'Joker' seems to be incorrect:
40 true platinum 154 opp gold -9999 errormargin 28 Joker
It is possible that the incorrect calculation is due data error (they are more common nowadays as the Blizzard's web profiles often update out-of-sync).
You can set the match against 'Joker' bad via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'.
I see you have got another good game later that looks nice. After you set the 'Joker' game bad even estimate value for the platinum promotion game is quite close even with the missing matches.
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On September 21 2014 11:46 SmackHisFace wrote:Does this look normal? Why are there so many filler opponents? Is the promotion line accurate? http://imgur.com/inuT48c
Calculation value from match against 'sOuL' is likely incorrect. You can set it bad via via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'.
Also some of the opponent values calculated from your data are likely incorrect. But you can leave them so as they do not affect your own graph.
You can graphically view the 'good games' via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Mark assumptions / bad games' > 'Save&Exit'. With that setting it is easier to recognize if there is potentially something wrong with the some of them (e.g. causes spike to some direction).
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2014-09-24: Released new DB file (v. 19.3) that updates the memory reader addresses for patch 2.1.4
The memory addresses for player name, player ID, opponent name and opponent ID had changed with patch 2.1.4. Released a new DB file that contains the new addresses. Please restart sc2gears to download the new DB file.
Edit: NA, EU and SEA have been updated to SC2 patch 2.1.4. But KR has not yet been patched. Thus the new memory reader addresses will not work for KR before it has been updated to 2.1.4.
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On September 24 2014 19:47 korona wrote:Calculation value from match against 'sOuL' is likely incorrect. You can set it bad via via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'. Also some of the opponent values calculated from your data are likely incorrect. But you can leave them so as they do not affect your own graph. You can graphically view the 'good games' via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Mark assumptions / bad games' > 'Save&Exit'. With that setting it is easier to recognize if there is potentially something wrong with the some of them (e.g. causes spike to some direction).
TY for the reply I have since marked that game vs SOUL as bad as well as mark assumptions but my graph still seems off. Am I using the proper DB an stuff? Is there an update missing? It says my MMR is about 1550 which doesn't make sense since im in Diamond and master line shows 1410. Once again thanks for the help I appreciate it. Here is a link of three pictures of my sc2 gears. Does everything look alright. It appears all my games are bad games? http://imgur.com/67HVBAU,CzdDCBm,6Krbomf#2
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On September 25 2014 09:00 SmackHisFace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:47 korona wrote:On September 21 2014 11:46 SmackHisFace wrote:Does this look normal? Why are there so many filler opponents? Is the promotion line accurate? http://imgur.com/inuT48c Calculation value from match against 'sOuL' is likely incorrect. You can set it bad via via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'. Also some of the opponent values calculated from your data are likely incorrect. But you can leave them so as they do not affect your own graph. You can graphically view the 'good games' via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Mark assumptions / bad games' > 'Save&Exit'. With that setting it is easier to recognize if there is potentially something wrong with the some of them (e.g. causes spike to some direction). TY for the reply I have since marked that game vs SOUL as bad as well as mark assumptions but my graph still seems off. Am I using the proper DB an stuff? Is there an update missing? It says my MMR is about 1550 which doesn't make sense since im in Diamond and master line shows 1410. Once again thanks for the help I appreciate it. Here is a link of three pictures of my sc2 gears. Does everything look alright. It appears all my games are bad games? http://imgur.com/67HVBAU,CzdDCBm,6Krbomf#2
Oh. I think I advised you in a wrong way. I accidentally thought the master line was the diamond line when I checked your uploaded data (had misclicked the wrong line on). The mid diamond ones, where the opponents are suggested to be are likely the correct ones (the soul one and the opponent values, but the two values early graph ones that are above the master line incorrect). I will check your data later tomorrow to be sure and give instructions.
Edit: Hmm. You are missing quite a lot of games from the graph. But it could be that all 3 'good values' are incorrect. But I have check the data more carefully tomorrow when I am more fresh.
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On September 25 2014 09:47 korona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 09:00 SmackHisFace wrote:On September 24 2014 19:47 korona wrote:On September 21 2014 11:46 SmackHisFace wrote:Does this look normal? Why are there so many filler opponents? Is the promotion line accurate? http://imgur.com/inuT48c Calculation value from match against 'sOuL' is likely incorrect. You can set it bad via via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'. Also some of the opponent values calculated from your data are likely incorrect. But you can leave them so as they do not affect your own graph. You can graphically view the 'good games' via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Mark assumptions / bad games' > 'Save&Exit'. With that setting it is easier to recognize if there is potentially something wrong with the some of them (e.g. causes spike to some direction). TY for the reply I have since marked that game vs SOUL as bad as well as mark assumptions but my graph still seems off. Am I using the proper DB an stuff? Is there an update missing? It says my MMR is about 1550 which doesn't make sense since im in Diamond and master line shows 1410. Once again thanks for the help I appreciate it. Here is a link of three pictures of my sc2 gears. Does everything look alright. It appears all my games are bad games? http://imgur.com/67HVBAU,CzdDCBm,6Krbomf#2 Oh. I think I advised you in a wrong way. I accidentally thought the master line was the diamond line when I checked your uploaded data (had misclicked the wrong line on). The mid diamond ones, where the opponents are suggested to be are likely the correct ones (the soul one and the opponent values, but the two values early graph ones that are above the master line incorrect). I will check your data later tomorrow to be sure and give instructions. Edit: Hmm. You are missing quite a lot of games from the graph. But it could be that all 3 'good values' are incorrect. But I have check the data more carefully tomorrow when I am more fresh.
I looked at the account once again. You had lots of missing games due which I am unsure what the win/loss count were when you were promoted. I used the last 'good game' against 'sOul' as focal point. The calculated MMR for it was 1064. Adjusted points at the end of that match suggest below mid-diamond MMR (low border 940, mid 1175, high border 1410). I then plotted out what would the MMR be with average changes of 16 from the suspected point of diamond promotion and got ~1276. You also seem to get less than average ladder points per won match. For lost matches the lost points fluctuate from below average to higher than average points. The low points from won matches might mean that you are often facing opponents with considerably lower MMR than you. But it seems you potentially have been gaining less than average MMR for won matches and losing more when you lose. The behavior is not what I would normally expect.
Based on the win & loss counts I feel the MMR at the end of the sOul match should be little higher than the 1064. But then again the adjusted points suggest below 1175. Thus at the moment it is better to set the sOul match good, set the 2 first 'good games' invalid and then wait for new good calculations. Note that the early graph will be quite erratic as you have lots of missing games in between.
How to fix:
First you need to set the match against 'sOul' good again. This happens by editing the save file manually. The sc2gears should be closed when you do this. Go to '[PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\' and find a file called 'games_i.data'. Take a back-up copy from it. You should then open the file with UTF-8 capable text editor like notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/). Editing with common editors like regular notepad might be ok, but do not add line breaks with those, but just change the one character.
The 'sOul' game looks like this after you have set it bad:
+ Show Spoiler +I,10.3,19.2,1411383214150,H,2.1.3.30508,US,overgrowth le,1,2be6aebb-26b8-42e4-8ecb-85890fb3f3f6,19,1714,L,0,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2812468/1/SmackHisFace/,0,1,1,1-2812468,diamond,kerrigan lima,t,t,83,29,1348,0,1165,183,-17,-9999,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2691396/1/sOuL/,1,0,1,1-2691396,diamond,hauler lambda,t,t,30,22,750,541,1165,126,12,-9999,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,
You should change the first 0 after your own web profile URL to 1. The result should be:
+ Show Spoiler +I,10.3,19.2,1411383214150,H,2.1.3.30508,US,overgrowth le,1,2be6aebb-26b8-42e4-8ecb-85890fb3f3f6,19,1714,L,0,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2812468/1/SmackHisFace/,1,1,1,1-2812468,diamond,kerrigan lima,t,t,83,29,1348,0,1165,183,-17,-9999,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2691396/1/sOuL/,1,0,1,1-2691396,diamond,hauler lambda,t,t,30,22,750,541,1165,126,12,-9999,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,
After that save the file and start sc2gears. Check that the 'sOul' game once again drops your MMR to low diamond. If all is well take another back-up copy of the 'games_i.data' file. Then set the games against 'polarize' and 'STORIONE' bad via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'.
After that your MMR graph should look like something like this http://imgur.com/u7mahS8 . The lonely good game there is the match against 'sOul' (note that the data in the picture is from yesterday, you might have played more after that). Also the most of the estimate games in the early graph are incorrect (lots of missing games + your MMR seems to change less than average per match). Also the value from the 'sOul' match may be a little too low (might be incorrect too, but not that much). Now play more and wait for the next good game. And try to keep the tool always on when you are playing SC2 games (remove potential recorded unranked matches).
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On September 25 2014 20:20 korona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 09:47 korona wrote:On September 25 2014 09:00 SmackHisFace wrote:On September 24 2014 19:47 korona wrote:On September 21 2014 11:46 SmackHisFace wrote:Does this look normal? Why are there so many filler opponents? Is the promotion line accurate? http://imgur.com/inuT48c Calculation value from match against 'sOuL' is likely incorrect. You can set it bad via via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'. Also some of the opponent values calculated from your data are likely incorrect. But you can leave them so as they do not affect your own graph. You can graphically view the 'good games' via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Mark assumptions / bad games' > 'Save&Exit'. With that setting it is easier to recognize if there is potentially something wrong with the some of them (e.g. causes spike to some direction). TY for the reply I have since marked that game vs SOUL as bad as well as mark assumptions but my graph still seems off. Am I using the proper DB an stuff? Is there an update missing? It says my MMR is about 1550 which doesn't make sense since im in Diamond and master line shows 1410. Once again thanks for the help I appreciate it. Here is a link of three pictures of my sc2 gears. Does everything look alright. It appears all my games are bad games? http://imgur.com/67HVBAU,CzdDCBm,6Krbomf#2 Oh. I think I advised you in a wrong way. I accidentally thought the master line was the diamond line when I checked your uploaded data (had misclicked the wrong line on). The mid diamond ones, where the opponents are suggested to be are likely the correct ones (the soul one and the opponent values, but the two values early graph ones that are above the master line incorrect). I will check your data later tomorrow to be sure and give instructions. Edit: Hmm. You are missing quite a lot of games from the graph. But it could be that all 3 'good values' are incorrect. But I have check the data more carefully tomorrow when I am more fresh. I looked at the account once again. You had lots of missing games due which I am unsure what the win/loss count were when you were promoted. I used the last 'good game' against 'sOul' as focal point. The calculated MMR for it was 1064. Adjusted points at the end of that match suggest below mid-diamond MMR (low border 940, mid 1175, high border 1410). I then plotted out what would the MMR be with average changes of 16 from the suspected point of diamond promotion and got ~1276. You also seem to get less than average ladder points per won match. For lost matches the lost points fluctuate from below average to higher than average points. The low points from won matches might mean that you are often facing opponents with considerably lower MMR than you. But it seems you potentially have been gaining less than average MMR for won matches and losing more when you lose. The behavior is not what I would normally expect. Based on the win & loss counts I feel the MMR at the end of the sOul match should be little higher than the 1064. But then again the adjusted points suggest below 1175. Thus at the moment it is better to set the sOul match good, set the 2 first 'good games' invalid and then wait for new good calculations. Note that the early graph will be quite erratic as you have lots of missing games in between. How to fix: First you need to set the match against 'sOul' good again. This happens by editing the save file manually. The sc2gears should be closed when you do this. Go to '[PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\' and find a file called 'games_i.data'. Take a back-up copy from it. You should then open the file with UTF-8 capable text editor like notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/). Editing with common editors like regular notepad might be ok, but do not add line breaks with those, but just change the one character. The 'sOul' game looks like this after you have set it bad: + Show Spoiler +I,10.3,19.2,1411383214150,H,2.1.3.30508,US,overgrowth le,1,2be6aebb-26b8-42e4-8ecb-85890fb3f3f6,19,1714,L,0,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2812468/1/SmackHisFace/,0,1,1,1-2812468,diamond,kerrigan lima,t,t,83,29,1348,0,1165,183,-17,-9999,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2691396/1/sOuL/,1,0,1,1-2691396,diamond,hauler lambda,t,t,30,22,750,541,1165,126,12,-9999,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, You should change the first 0 after your own web profile URL to 1. The result should be: + Show Spoiler +I,10.3,19.2,1411383214150,H,2.1.3.30508,US,overgrowth le,1,2be6aebb-26b8-42e4-8ecb-85890fb3f3f6,19,1714,L,0,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2812468/1/SmackHisFace/,1,1,1,1-2812468,diamond,kerrigan lima,t,t,83,29,1348,0,1165,183,-17,-9999,http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2691396/1/sOuL/,1,0,1,1-2691396,diamond,hauler lambda,t,t,30,22,750,541,1165,126,12,-9999,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, After that save the file and start sc2gears. Check that the 'sOul' game once again drops your MMR to low diamond. If all is well take another back-up copy of the 'games_i.data' file. Then set the games against 'polarize' and 'STORIONE' bad via 'Config' > 'Data' > 'Refresh' > Select that match from the drop down menu > 'Mark as bad game' > 'Save&Exit'. After that your MMR graph should look like something like this http://imgur.com/u7mahS8 . The lonely good game there is the match against 'sOul' (note that the data in the picture is from yesterday, you might have played more after that). Also the most of the estimate games in the early graph are incorrect (lots of missing games + your MMR seems to change less than average per match). Also the value from the 'sOul' match may be a little too low (might be incorrect too, but not that much). Now play more and wait for the next good game. And try to keep the tool always on when you are playing SC2 games (remove potential recorded unranked matches).
Thanks again. I was originally placed into gold this season because of MMR decay played about 30 games to get to diamond and thats when I started using the plug in. Ive only missed a handful of games in the past 50 but ill try to make sure its always on.
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I don't seem to get any games. After 40 games since I started tracking again there has not been 1 good one it seems.At least it tells me "Needs a game with better data 0/0". It doesn't seem to do any recording of games. Some idea why?
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On October 09 2014 08:04 Greenei wrote:
I don't seem to get any games. After 40 games since I started tracking again there has not been 1 good one it seems.At least it tells me "Needs a game with better data 0/0". It doesn't seem to do any recording of games. Some idea why?
If it says 0/0 then it is indeed not recording games. The second number should be increasing even if 'good games' are not found.
Most common reason for this is that the sc2gears auto-save settings are not configured correctly. Check sc2gears settings: Select 'Settings' > 'Miscellaneous settings'. Then check the contents of following two tabs: "1 Replay auto-save" and "Folders". You need to set correct auto-replay folders for each server separately. Then test that the auto-save is functioning correctly e.g. by playing custom games against AI. Having 'play "Replay saved" when replays are saved' setting helps.
If all auto-replay settings are ok, then make sure you have added the account also to the MMR tool settings. Select 'Config' from the MMR tool top toolbar. All the profiles you track should be listed in the 'Settings' tab. And of course MMR tool is only interested in the 1v1 games (ignores custom game replays and team game replays).
When you get the MMR tool to record games, it likely takes time to get 'good games'. Some reasons are listed e.g. here (it was early season when I wrote that, now it is late season): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22798150
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Yep thanks, that seems to have helped.
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probobly has been asked thousands of times
I have more than 50 games atm and still not a singel good one. I was using this tool a year ago and I had much more good games by that time. ATM it is 0/55. 
Is there simply less users thats why so hard to find a good game??
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On October 12 2014 01:26 SorrowShine wrote:
probobly has been asked thousands of times
There was an answer two messages ago:
When you get the MMR tool to record games, it likely takes time to get 'good games'. Some reasons are listed e.g. here (it was early season when I wrote that, now it is late season): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22798150
On October 12 2014 01:26 SorrowShine wrote:I have more than 50 games atm and still not a singel good one. I was using this tool a year ago and I had much more good games by that time. ATM it is 0/55. Is there simply less users thats why so hard to find a good game??
That is not the reason. Bigger problem is that Blizzard's web profiles have often been updating out-of-sync since February (match history updates usually immediately, but it is up to luck if the division page updates immediately or takes several minutes to update). For example on Thursday I played 1 game on EU server and 2 games on NA server. The web profiles updated after each match for all players out-of-sync. If the tool notices that the data was out-of-sync it marks it bad. It is also possible that sometimes it does not recognize that the data was out-of-sync which can lead to incorrect calculations.
People are still getting good readings from time to time (some get plenty). There are matches where data for either or both players are ok. But that often is not enough. The link I gave clarifies some other requirements for the data in simplified manner.
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On October 12 2014 03:32 korona wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 01:26 SorrowShine wrote:
probobly has been asked thousands of times There was an answer two messages ago: When you get the MMR tool to record games, it likely takes time to get 'good games'. Some reasons are listed e.g. here (it was early season when I wrote that, now it is late season): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22798150Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 01:26 SorrowShine wrote:I have more than 50 games atm and still not a singel good one. I was using this tool a year ago and I had much more good games by that time. ATM it is 0/55. Is there simply less users thats why so hard to find a good game?? That is not the reason. Bigger problem is that Blizzard's web profiles have often been updating out-of-sync since February (match history updates usually immediately, but it is up to luck if the division page updates immediately or takes several minutes to update). For example on Thursday I played 1 game on EU server and 2 games on NA server. The web profiles updated after each match for all players out-of-sync. If the tool notices that the data was out-of-sync it marks it bad. It is also possible that sometimes it does not recognize that the data was out-of-sync which can lead to incorrect calculations. People are still getting good readings from time to time (some get plenty). There are matches where data for either or both players are ok. But that often is not enough. The link I gave clarifies some other requirements for the data in simplified manner.
I was just bumping this thread 
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will this work with scelight?
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I'm consistently getting results which appear weird - the MMR of my opponents is about 100 points above my estimated one. I know these are just estimated values, but wouldn't it make some sense to mark my last 'good' game as 'bad'? It appears it caused a strange drop on the chart...
https://i.imgur.com/i5nNc2d.jpg
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On October 19 2014 19:47 corydoras wrote:I'm consistently getting results which appear weird - the MMR of my opponents is about 100 points above my estimated one. I know these are just estimated values, but wouldn't it make some sense to mark my last 'good' game as 'bad'? It appears it caused a strange drop on the chart... https://i.imgur.com/i5nNc2d.jpg
I did not look at the data, but it is very possible that your last 'good game' is incorrect. Earlier you got lots of good readings that also matched your opponents readings. If the last 'good game' would be marked as bad, the graph be close to the opponent values.
Also consider if you have had over 2 weeks long hiatus at some point, which has caused your MMR to decay. Maximum decay happens after 4 weeks and it roughly matches 20 straight losses. The drop at the end of season 18 could be due to decay. Also if there are missing games they will cause shakiness as the estimate values are based on assumption that all games have been recorded.
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On October 19 2014 23:22 korona wrote:
Also consider if you have had over 2 weeks long hiatus at some point, which has caused your MMR to decay. Maximum decay happens after 4 weeks and it roughly matches 20 straight losses. The drop at the end of season 18 could be due to decay. Also if there are missing games they will cause shakiness as the estimate values are based on assumption that all games have been recorded.
No decay whatsoever, but I did have some missing games. Not a lot of them, however, and never more than 1-2 in a row, so I doubt it could cause such a difference between my MMR and my opponents'. I marked the last 'good' game as 'bad' and the graph appears much more consistent. Thanks
Just out of curiosity, any word from Blizzard on the out-of-sync updates?
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On October 20 2014 01:33 corydoras wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 23:22 korona wrote:
Also consider if you have had over 2 weeks long hiatus at some point, which has caused your MMR to decay. Maximum decay happens after 4 weeks and it roughly matches 20 straight losses. The drop at the end of season 18 could be due to decay. Also if there are missing games they will cause shakiness as the estimate values are based on assumption that all games have been recorded. No decay whatsoever, but I did have some missing games. Not a lot of them, however, and never more than 1-2 in a row, so I doubt it could cause such a difference between my MMR and my opponents'. I marked the last 'good' game as 'bad' and the graph appears much more consistent. Thanks Just out of curiosity, any word from Blizzard on the out-of-sync updates?
There has been no comments. Thought they should know about it as there have been some bug reports on Bnet forums (there was at least one blue response regarding one of the reports, thought that report contained other profile related issues also).
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Hi I have a quick question about your MMR tool, I'm not sure that I am using it correctly.
It says that I am near masters MMR but I haven't even faced a single master player yet.
I do have the memory reader enabled and I've had SC2 gears on for almost every game, I think I missed one or two.
I've only gotten 1 good game as you can see in the screenshot and I'm guessing it's a wrong reading, since it doesn't make any sense for me to me this high and not face any master players.
So basically, is there anything I can do to make my results more accurate?
Sorry about the link but it won't let me post an image BB link as this is a new TL account.
http://i.imgur.com/Xk9UQNx.jpg
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