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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
I really REALLY like the fact that they removed the Replicant. It was such a bullshit unit. They need to add more stuff to the Protoss line though. Tempest doesn't really feel necessary when you can try to tweak carriers to perform the same function basically. Glad there are a lot of ideas for the Zerg though. | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:25 pdd wrote: Hope they manage to figure out the Terran factory problem. I really REALLY like the fact that they removed the Replicant. It was such a bullshit unit. They need to add more stuff to the Protoss line though. Tempest doesn't really feel necessary when you can try to tweak carriers to perform the same function basically. Glad there are a lot of ideas for the Zerg though. I actually want to see the Replicant in the campaign  It has no place in multiplayer, but it sounds like a cool unit to mess around with in single player. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:25 SolidMoose wrote: I do hope the nexus recall doesn't make it, simply because warpgate is already a really good ability for stopping drop harass/multipronged attacks. Recall wasn't intended to stop harass though... | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:25 SolidMoose wrote: I do hope the nexus recall doesn't make it, simply because warpgate is already a really good ability for stopping drop harass/multipronged attacks. Well that or if you catch toss out of position BAm it all goes home. If it makes it I am going to be super angry lol. | ||
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:25 SolidMoose wrote: I do hope the nexus recall doesn't make it, simply because warpgate is already a really good ability for stopping drop harass/multipronged attacks. I assume recall will have a 75-100 energy cost, which will only really be viable to protoss with bad macro (noobs), late game protoss, or a pro protoss cheese that is designed to do quick damage then bail out fast. In which case, I invite it wholeheartedly. I think zerg has the most interesting changes that will really open up the strategy to a whole new ballpark. Terran mech/positional play is the only thing that really needs to be changed (anything to get terrans to stray from MMM for once in their lives) I fear for protoss the most, because even though the exclusion of the replicant seems like a gift from god, the tempest/oracle still feel like dull or gimmicky units (respectively) that are more of the same than anything else really. Nexus recall/insta-cannon is the most interesting imho. Practically inviting insane cheeses to be thought up. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
Don't understand the reason behind this change. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:03 TheBlueMeaner wrote: how about overlords become detectors once lair is built?? I don't think that's fair considering the investment you need to make for cloaked/burrowing units. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
Sounds like HotS is long way off. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:24 forsooth wrote: I guess that makes them kind of like air marauders. I switched to Terran in SC2 and I've always hated that stupid unit, but damned if I don't need it. Ah yes another one of those units that contribute to nothing other than a deathball. Gotta love those one-dimensional units, right? | ||
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Datum
United States371 Posts
I wonder if vipers would be cheap enough to justify this? | ||
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
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arsenic
United States163 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:32 usethis2 wrote: I don't think that's fair considering the investment you need to make for cloaked/burrowing units. In BW, all Overlords were detectors automatically and DTs were still amazing if used well. It is all about harassing and multitasking rather than free wins randomly when the Zerg doesn't guess your build correctly. DTs and Banshees right now are just stupid, especially when they are made off of one base, for both sides - if they are stopped, then P/T is in huge trouble, and if not, then they pretty much win automatically. | ||
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Granter
Sweden64 Posts
Why cant the mech units run and shot on the same time, any modern tank can do that with same precision as standing still, ye ofc it would maybe be a balance issue but it is just a thought. And what's up with them not changing massrecall?` It will leave the protoss army impossible to beat if they are always the ones deciding on if they want to fight or not....the toss army is already more moble then the mech army so i dont really see the thing with that. and the current tvp is based on being able to harass mid game, because late game is just shit if you dont get ahead. Even if they were to bring in a unit more powerfull and cost effektive then the thor there isnt a chanse in hell mech would ever be decent against a toss. I'm also very sad that they did not keep threader, wouldnt mind if they brought in some upgrade that would make it possible for misselturrents to deal damage on ground units. | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
at least blizzard listening a little bit? but the thought of adding ANOTHER super long range missile of doom laser cannon of unending range and death to the terran race confuses me. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:36 Datum wrote: Viper feeding on minerals => drop vipers in opponent's mineral line => disrupt supply. I wonder if vipers would be cheap enough to justify this? They wouldnt if you expected to lose them. Depending on speed you could maybe avoid that... but it better make an alert or something or people might not even know.... Man... I hoped to hell that the viper's abduct move would be gone... all I can think of is that a zerg makes 10 of these, pulls my colossus out of my army, they die instantly, and then the rest of your pathetic army dies right after -_- they better not have a good range... | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:36 arsenic wrote: In BW, all Overlords were detectors automatically and DTs were still amazing if used well. It is all about harassing and multitasking rather than free wins randomly when the Zerg doesn't guess your build correctly. DTs and Banshees right now are just stupid, especially when they are made off of one base, for both sides - if they are stopped, then P/T is in huge trouble, and if not, then they pretty much win automatically. Yah banshees in TvP are stupid. Protoss gets Robo? Stopped with no damage or very little if thy only make one obs which protoss don't do anymore. Robo not made? Terran wins. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3721 Posts
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:29 Tyrant0 wrote: Recall wasn't intended to stop harass though... Does it matter what it's ended for though? It can obviously be used that way, especially when you're on 3 base and have energy saved up. | ||
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