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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
SlayerS_Jessica was quoted saying "people cannot just say or do whatever they want just because they're on the internet and no one can see their faces. I find this kind of behavior to be absolutely unacceptable and filed this case in hopes that other people will see it and realize they cannot act this way." Seems like shes not as insane as people think, shes just trying to hold people accountable for their actions. Seems wonderful to me. | ||
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Jongl0
631 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:28 Wombat_NI wrote: There were rules, enforced by fucking banning people based on them transgressing these rules. Your analogy is completely off the mark, given Slayer's stream is advertised I'd imagine as 'Pro Starcraft House in Korea!' rather than 'Come and have a field day and send abuse in chat to a female who goes out with one of the players' Guy deserves to lose his fucking cash. its a public chat, with no rules if you want to abuse someone then go right ahead, they say its ok by not banning it | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote: did i say that? no i didnt, SlayerS invited everyone in the world into there public chat and allwed them to say whatever they wanted to and then sued someone for doing jsut that its like inviteing someone into your house to beat your wife then calling the cops when he does what you ask him to it was a public chat with no rules, nor were any rules inforced yet the dude is gonna lose a large chunk of cash at the minumum for this please re-read my post (or rest of it), i like how you completely missed the point of huge chunk of it explaining my view. why are you so against people have good set moral standards? murder bad, help good, etc? | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:26 Forikorder wrote: or we can let people act howd they like and not try to force everyone to act how a few people want them to Ok, by that logic I would be allowed to punch you really hard in the face. Come on, you have to realize that there are certain rules every human has to follow. | ||
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GloPikkle
United States197 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:24 aBstractx wrote: what a fucking cunt. you'd seriously put another man in jail for some bullshit like this? sticks and stones. come sue me Go away you're an embarrassment to civilized society. | ||
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dCc
Canada86 Posts
On March 31 2012 08:39 illumn wrote: I love the idea of stream chat idiots being held accountable for their words, but up to 7 years in prison/44,000 USD? What a ridiculously overboard punishment. Pretty much sums up my thoughts. If he is found guilty then he deserves to be. I think it's about time people were held accountable for their actions online. | ||
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Mechwarrior
United States76 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:29 Forikorder wrote: its a public chat, with no rules if you want to abuse someone then go right ahead, they say its ok by not banning it I don't understand how the concept of expecting human decency and punishable otherwise is just so foreign to you. As if it's hard to have minimum manners? | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:26 Forikorder wrote: or we can let people act howd they like and not try to force everyone to act how a few people want them to Jessica was in no way inconveniced by this guy at all, theres no reason she couldnt ahve jsut turned a blind eye and started googling how to ban people in chat uhhhh, thats kinda how society works. People give and take just so that they can live in relative peace. And how was she not inconveniced by this? She is part of the organization that many people watch and she got embarassed by a guy who is doing it out of...boredom I guess? I wonder if the concept of rights being accompanied by responsibilities is somehow lost these days. You can act however you like, but some actions have reactions and guess what? You have to deal with them too. | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:24 aBstractx wrote: what a fucking cunt. you'd seriously put another man in jail for some bullshit like this? sticks and stones. come sue me get banned, idiot. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:29 Forikorder wrote: its a public chat, with no rules if you want to abuse someone then go right ahead, they say its ok by not banning it Done with you. You may disagree with me but I at least address the points you make, you ignore half of the points I make. I don't expect to change your mind by any means but at least contribute to the debate by addressing critiques of your points. Your argument is like a one-armed rower, I mean there's a lot of effort shown but it's not really going anywhere. 1. Ignore that the guy was banned, and by many accounts MULTIPLE times. 2. Ignore that he transgressed some rules (even informal convention), which led to said ban. Just because something isn't codified doesn't mean it's not unacceptable. 3. Ignore that spam of such a kind is disruptive to the ability to communicate with other people. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:30 Serinox wrote: Ok, by that logic I would be allowed to punch you really hard in the face. Come on, you have to realize that there are certain rules every human has to follow. is the world better with those rules? is the world better now that people follow rules becuase they dont want to get in trouble then because they jsut dont want to do it? im not going to claim i know better then the people who make most laws, some of it certainly does make the world a better place (personally it makes me sad that the laws are needed to make the world a better place) but laws like this one jsut cross the line in my opinion, as far as im concerned as long as people dont kill, dont steal, dont assault, dont rape then everything else should pretty mcuh be left up to the individual obviously i dont have a very mainstream belief Ignore that the guy was banned, and by many accounts MULTIPLE times. so how come on the day that she decided to file him for a sue, noone had any idea how to ban? | ||
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Supdude
244 Posts
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
You should treat others with respect especially if they have never done anything to you to deserve such harsh words. It is clear that this is harassment and he should be held accountable for such actions. The internet should not be used as some protective barrier where there is never any backfire on ill intent. The same way racism should be frowned upon in the gaming community so should sexual harassment. It is things like this that alienates females from entering the eSports scene. I'm glad Jessica finally had enough and put her foot down. She should not be forced to endure such hatred from this guy or anyone else in the eSports community. On another note, the OP states his initial opinion which sets a very horrible tone for this thread. I'd appreciate if you guys try to see things more clearly through a female's perspective. If a guy was harassing your girlfriend on the internet would you not make a stand for her as well? I'm sure Boxer supports her decision. Sorry to go off on a rant but sometimes people in this community now days makes me sick to think Jessica should be looked down upon for this. Grow up people! | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:29 Forikorder wrote: its a public chat, with no rules if you want to abuse someone then go right ahead, they say its ok by not banning it Or you know the law says it is not ok. Sexually harassing people is quite commonly known to be against the law in many places around the world, Korea included I am sure. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:33 Forikorder wrote: is the world better with those rules? is the world better now that people follow rules becuase they dont want to get in trouble then because they jsut dont want to do it? im not going to claim i know better then the people who make most laws, some of it certainly does make the world a better place (personally it makes me sad that the laws are needed to make the world a better place) but laws like this one jsut cross the line in my opinion, as far as im concerned as long as people dont kill, dont steal, dont assault, dont rape then everything else should pretty mcuh be left up to the individual obviously i dont have a very mainstream belief so how come on the day that she decided to file him for a sue, noone had any idea how to ban? I'd just assumed they allowed him to spew his spam to obtain evidence for said suit? May be wrong though | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:33 Forikorder wrote: is the world better with those rules? is the world better now that people follow rules becuase they dont want to get in trouble then because they jsut dont want to do it? im not going to claim i know better then the people who make most laws, some of it certainly does make the world a better place (personally it makes me sad that the laws are needed to make the world a better place) but laws like this one jsut cross the line in my opinion, as far as im concerned as long as people dont kill, dont steal, dont assault, dont rape then everything else should pretty mcuh be left up to the individual obviously i dont have a very mainstream belief so how come on the day that she decided to file him for a sue, noone had any idea how to ban? When the moral of the people fail it's the responsibility of the society to set rules, for them to follow so that society can continue to function. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
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