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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
March 31 2012 02:30 GMT
#601
On March 31 2012 11:29 Roe wrote:
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On March 31 2012 11:23 jinorazi wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:21 Zennith wrote:
I'm just baffled by how many people support this. Freedom of speech is so important, I don't understand how anyone can believe otherwise?


freedom of speech is important. so should trolls doing everything they can to harm someone's reputation, finance and emotion be allowed with no consequences?

intentional trolling with means to do damage, isn't freedom of speech.

did you believe what the troll said?


i agree jessica overreacted but as she said, its a re-occurring problem and she wanted to act upon it.
and the korean law does allow punishment for such acts.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#602
On March 31 2012 11:30 ProBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:16 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:12 ProBot wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:32 Capulet wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:15 ProBot wrote:
still don't think it's stupid one thing about the internet is people say ignorant shit because there's really no accountability for anything they say ... now there is and maybe some idiots will think twice about being idiots / degrading or whatever.


I completely agree with this.

The amount of hostility found on the internet is becoming absurd and it's about time people are held accountable for their actions. Contrary to popular belief, simply brushing hate messages aside by labeling it "rage" or "trolling" does not make it any more acceptable.

Although, I feel that the community might be more receptive to this whole suing ordeal if it wasn't Jessica who is doing it...

It's kinda funny tho, community defends the dude for calling her a whore / slut or whatever yet lynch orb for saying "nigger". This community is fucked.

It's not at all funny or witty observation. Was Orb sued or sent to jail?


I'ld saying losing his job and any rep he had in the community was quite substantial so yeah both cases are relevant, your argument ... not so much.

he didnt really lose much of his rep, the community was pretty divided between people who didnt like him and people who did so id say the majority have pretty mcuh forgotten about it with that punishment so all he really lost was a job of an undisclosed salary (if he even got one)
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#603
On March 31 2012 11:26 Odal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


I disagree. You should be able to act the way you'd like. Punishments shouldn't be serious for offending people with harmless words.

I disagree. People should be expect to act with a minimum level of class, and be punished if they act with lack of it. People should strive to be higher and higher class. These acts of lack of class shouldn't be tolerated and should be punished and made an example of.
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Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:33:31
March 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#604
On March 31 2012 11:22 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:20 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


You can ban people from chat rooms.

Yes, and you can sue them so they learn their lesson and stop being dicks rather than have them make new accounts and continue being dicks to you or to other people.

People need to learn to have some class, hopefully this will make an example of those who lack it.


The fact that you honestly think people should go to prison over meaningless words typed over something as impersonal as the internet baffles me. Should everyone that says "fuck you" to someone get arrested too? Just throw 90% of the world's population in prison if so, because they don't have "class."

NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#605
On March 31 2012 11:32 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:26 Odal wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


I disagree. You should be able to act the way you'd like. Punishments shouldn't be serious for offending people with harmless words.

I disagree. People should be expect to act with a minimum level of class, and be punished if they act with lack of it. People should strive to be higher and higher class. These acts of lack of class shouldn't be tolerated and should be punished and made an example of.

why?
why do the people of "higher class" have the right to force there views and beliefs on us "lower class" people?
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:36:11
March 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#606
On March 31 2012 11:32 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:30 ProBot wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:16 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:12 ProBot wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:32 Capulet wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:15 ProBot wrote:
still don't think it's stupid one thing about the internet is people say ignorant shit because there's really no accountability for anything they say ... now there is and maybe some idiots will think twice about being idiots / degrading or whatever.


I completely agree with this.

The amount of hostility found on the internet is becoming absurd and it's about time people are held accountable for their actions. Contrary to popular belief, simply brushing hate messages aside by labeling it "rage" or "trolling" does not make it any more acceptable.

Although, I feel that the community might be more receptive to this whole suing ordeal if it wasn't Jessica who is doing it...

It's kinda funny tho, community defends the dude for calling her a whore / slut or whatever yet lynch orb for saying "nigger". This community is fucked.

It's not at all funny or witty observation. Was Orb sued or sent to jail?


I'ld saying losing his job and any rep he had in the community was quite substantial so yeah both cases are relevant, your argument ... not so much.

he didnt really lose much of his rep, the community was pretty divided between people who didnt like him and people who did so id say the majority have pretty mcuh forgotten about it with that punishment so all he really lost was a job of an undisclosed salary (if he even got one)


thats the weird thing about america...for any controversial issue, some people dont care, some people like it, some people hate it but in the end, it doesn't effect the person in question very much.

its veeeery different in korea.

hence why there's a law to protect people from trolls in the first place.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
March 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#607
On March 31 2012 11:23 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:21 Zennith wrote:
I'm just baffled by how many people support this. Freedom of speech is so important, I don't understand how anyone can believe otherwise?


freedom of speech is important. so should trolls doing everything they can to harm someone's reputation, finance and emotion be allowed with no consequences?

intentional trolling with means to do damage, isn't freedom of speech.


sometimes i get the feeling some of the Americans are so brainwashed with the whole freedom of speech, that every excrement that comes out in form of toughts from their brains is considered valid, and you don't actually have to think before you speak, because even if you are so bloody wrong, you have the right to be wrong.

which is false.

there was a discussion on TL similiar to this one, where guy from Scandinavia that lived on both continents analyzed the situation and said it fascinated him how in Europe kids are thought to be critical in thinking, while in the States everything is so emphasized on the individual, kids just grow up thinking every aspect of their individuality is so precious that they are actually rewarded for having a stance on something, no matter true or false.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
March 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#608
On March 31 2012 11:32 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:26 Odal wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


I disagree. You should be able to act the way you'd like. Punishments shouldn't be serious for offending people with harmless words.

I disagree. People should be expect to act with a minimum level of class, and be punished if they act with lack of it. People should strive to be higher and higher class. These acts of lack of class shouldn't be tolerated and should be punished and made an example of.


Why should people be forced to act the way you want? Fuck that shit. Freedom of thoughts and words are incredibly important to a working modern society. We don't need a world of boring politically correct drones.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
March 31 2012 02:34 GMT
#609
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.


A lot of stuff has gone terribly awry, so that's not really an argument against these laws

For the record there are laws like this in the US too, in particular emotional abuse against children is a crime, as it should be.

TBH, I really don't see the point of defending free speech in these situations. It's not like any sensible person wants to reserve the right to be a complete dick. Even if there's no legal barrier the downside is massive. You might end up acting like this in the wrong environment and you're fucked (see orb). So I guess it's either a fear of a slippery slope where legitimate ideas get banned or a weird fetish for the abstract idea of free speech.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Robson13
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom248 Posts
March 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#610
On March 31 2012 11:27 Spoogymcgee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 08:39 Golgotha wrote:
why didnt they just ban him? can own3d not do that? jessica please dont do this, you are making boxer look bad.


Exactly what I was thinking. Definitely Jessica being Jessica. When the problem can be solved with a click of a button but isn't its obvious that someone is seeking drama. However, I don't know why anyone would say that to her, she is such a cutie <3

This happens all the time in Korea, it may seem harsh to us people outside of Korea but this shit is taken VERY seriously in Korea. Especially with celebrities
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
March 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#611
On March 31 2012 11:32 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:22 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


You can ban people from chat rooms.

Yes, and you can sue them so they learn their lesson and stop being dicks rather than have them make new accounts and continue being dicks to you or to other people.

People need to learn to have some class, hopefully this will make an example of those who lack it.


The fact that you honestly think people should go to prison over meaningless words typed over something as impersonal as the internet baffles me. Should everyone that says "fuck you" to someone get arrested too? Just throw 90% of the world's population in prison if so, because they don't have "class."


Don't worry the guy isn't going to go to prison. Most of the time the way these things go is that the troll is apologetic and says he won't ever do it again and it gets settled out of court.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#612
On March 31 2012 11:34 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.


A lot of stuff has gone terribly awry, so that's not really an argument against these laws

For the record there are laws like this in the US too, in particular emotional abuse against children is a crime, as it should be.

TBH, I really don't see the point of defending free speech in these situations. It's not like any sensible person wants to reserve the right to be a complete dick. Even if there's no legal barrier the downside is massive. You might end up acting like this in the wrong environment and you're fucked (see orb). So I guess it's either a fear of a slippery slope where legitimate ideas get banned or a weird fetish for the abstract idea of free speech.

Jessicas about 20 years to old to be called a kid
UniversalMind
Profile Joined March 2011
United States326 Posts
March 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#613
if this dude is korean, he's so screwed. they don't play that in korea
starfish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States102 Posts
March 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#614
i'm happy with this, these trolls need to be shut down one way or another, this is just pure disrespect, abusing internet because you think you can say anything behind your computer.

and I'm pretty sure this guy knows Jessica's personality, even pushing that is just pure retardation.
Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
March 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#615


When you can't handle someone, you give away your power to them. And that puts you in the victim role, which is a role with no silver lining. being a "victim" requires that you accept that role by an "offender".
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:38:31
March 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#616
On March 31 2012 11:32 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:22 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


You can ban people from chat rooms.

Yes, and you can sue them so they learn their lesson and stop being dicks rather than have them make new accounts and continue being dicks to you or to other people.

People need to learn to have some class, hopefully this will make an example of those who lack it.


The fact that you honestly think people should go to prison over meaningless words typed over something as impersonal as the internet baffles me. Should everyone that says "fuck you" to someone get arrested too? Just throw 90% of the world's population in prison if so, because they don't have "class."


Then they should strive to have better class.

Let's throw jessica's action aside for now.

Now let's see, it seems like many of you are supporting cyber defamation and think it's the norm, it's ok, it's the right thing to do. but now is it really?

Maybe it's the immaturity of the community, and tolerance for a lack of class that gives gamers stigmas and make scenes struggle to take off?

Have you considered all the good things that can happen if some of you acted that you are actually against having no class rather than supporting it?

Do you all consider the consequences of supporting cyber dickery as a community when you open your mouth at all? ( or typing shit on a forum in this case)
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
March 31 2012 02:37 GMT
#617
On March 31 2012 11:33 snailz wrote:
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On March 31 2012 11:23 jinorazi wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:21 Zennith wrote:
I'm just baffled by how many people support this. Freedom of speech is so important, I don't understand how anyone can believe otherwise?


freedom of speech is important. so should trolls doing everything they can to harm someone's reputation, finance and emotion be allowed with no consequences?

intentional trolling with means to do damage, isn't freedom of speech.


sometimes i get the feeling some of the Americans are so brainwashed with the whole freedom of speech, that every excrement that comes out in form of toughts from their brains is considered valid, and you don't actually have to think before you speak, because even if you are so bloody wrong, you have the right to be wrong.

which is false.

there was a discussion on TL similiar to this one, where guy from Scandinavia that lived on both continents analyzed the situation and said it fascinated him how in Europe kids are thought to be critical in thinking, while in the States everything is so emphasized on the individual, kids just grow up thinking every aspect of their individuality is so precious that they are actually rewarded for having a stance on something, no matter true or false.


A TL user from Scandinavia. Sounds like a bloody expert to me. I think you could read over your own words, and perhaps learn about yourself from yourself.
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Robson13
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom248 Posts
March 31 2012 02:38 GMT
#618
On March 31 2012 11:32 Skwid1g wrote:
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On March 31 2012 11:22 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:20 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:19 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:17 Blasterion wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:15 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:07 Goldfish wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.

That doesn't mean the law is right. I mean come on, would you argue against someone who is fighting a racist or misogynistic government who enforces the law in kind? "But that black person should've known better than to sit at the front of the bus...the country has laws for segregation and she should obey them." I think we should all be able to agree these status quo kinds of statements are void in this argument and serve no purpose.

It is right, if the law makes people be less dickery and have higher class it helps the image of the community as a whole, I can't believe all the people defending this crap. Have you not learned your lesson on what happened to the fighting game community?


If we've reached the point as a society where we need the law to stop people from hurting other people's feelings, I'd say something has gone awry.

If we've reached the point as a society when people are allowed to be dicks as much as they want, I'd say something has gone awry.


You can ban people from chat rooms.

Yes, and you can sue them so they learn their lesson and stop being dicks rather than have them make new accounts and continue being dicks to you or to other people.

People need to learn to have some class, hopefully this will make an example of those who lack it.


The fact that you honestly think people should go to prison over meaningless words typed over something as impersonal as the internet baffles me. Should everyone that says "fuck you" to someone get arrested too? Just throw 90% of the world's population in prison if so, because they don't have "class."


"fuck you" is a bit different to sexism, racism, etc
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
March 31 2012 02:38 GMT
#619
Well, someone has to set a precedent. Good luck to her, bad luck to him for being the straw that broke the camel's back.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 31 2012 02:39 GMT
#620
"Freedom of speech" doesn't allow you to constantly throw out mindless insults.

The guy is an idiot and hopefully he gets a cautionary fine or whatever and some others wise up.
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