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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
March 31 2012 02:02 GMT
#521
Maybe she overracts a bit but its JESSICA, lets love her anyway please!
boppel
Profile Joined March 2012
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:02:58
March 31 2012 02:02 GMT
#522
lmao, like the police cares about who insults each other in an chat :D

german police would laugh in my face when i were going to them telling there is a guy insulting me in an sc2 chat
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
March 31 2012 02:02 GMT
#523
On March 31 2012 11:01 Typhoon1789 wrote:
If jessica cannot handle the internet trolls, she should get the f**k off the internet. -_-

It would seem the me that she's handling him very well.
That was word play, for you less clever folk.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:04:41
March 31 2012 02:02 GMT
#524
just so you guys know, photoshopping celebrity pictures can get you arrested. for example, take one of snsd girls face and put it on nude pornstar, that'll get you in trouble.

i'm not sure why people are so acceptable to trolling especially when they're intentionally targeted towards a person/group with potential to do emotional and financial harm.

however i'd like to add jessica can be more calm.
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NotAPro
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada146 Posts
March 31 2012 02:03 GMT
#525
I wonder if she realizes shit like this is why she is being bashed in the first place
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
March 31 2012 02:04 GMT
#526
On March 31 2012 10:53 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:50 Wombat_NI wrote:

Constitutional freedom of speech does not mean you can say whatever you want, about anything and needlessly hurl abuse at people. Libel law, hate speech laws etc exist already that restrict 100%, no-holds-barred free speech. This notion that we have an inalienable right to say whatever we want, that is so often used in justification for abhorrent, obnoxious behaviour is just false.


I want to isolate this paragraph. You didn't even give an argument as to why the status quo is superior, other than the fact that anti-speech laws are good because they are the status quo. Would you mind elaborating on why those laws are good to have?

I didn't say they were good to have or not actually, although my habit of not re-reading my posts is a bad one! For example I disagree with laws like holocaust denial laws in Germany/France and elsewhere in Europe. I don't personally feel that legal prevention of making such idiotic points is productive, as the proponents of holocaust denial make themselves look stupid.

In essence the flow of my point was. 'We have free speech I can say what I want' is used as a justification for obnoxious behaviour, oblivious to the multitude of pre-existing laws that restrict speech to some, however just/unjust they may be. No country in the Western world that I am aware of has 100%, unrestricted free speech, it's a fantasy. To invoke this false concept of what is covered as free speech requires either disingenuity or ignorance on the part of whoever is acting in this way.

It's a matter of human decency and decorum I guess, the internet is still not particularly regulated so there's a culture of acting with impunity so the onus is on internet communities themselves to self-regulate and get rid of the trash. It's for that reason that posts like 'oh it's the internet' piss me off, what's wrong with suggesting improvement?

If every time you went out in the street people came up to your face and screamed abuse about your appearance/sexual orientation/race etc etc it'd be intolerable so why should online interaction be conducted in such a manner?
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
March 31 2012 02:04 GMT
#527
Hope the guy gets revealed, he has it coming. This community is filled with immature kids that should fuck off anyway.
If people like orb gets fired for making a racial remark due to ladder rage, why should a kid with no manners get away with calling a person he doesn't know in real life a dick sucking cunt continuously as an anonymous chat stalker. How about saying that in front of that person's face?
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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
March 31 2012 02:04 GMT
#528
On March 31 2012 11:02 jinorazi wrote:
just so you guys know, photoshopping celebrity pictures can get you arrested. for example, take one of snsd girls face and put it on nude pornstar, that'll get you in trouble.


Does that apply only to celebrities? If so, how do they define celebrity? Just Curious. StartaleCurious.
Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
March 31 2012 02:05 GMT
#529
On March 31 2012 11:02 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:01 Typhoon1789 wrote:
If jessica cannot handle the internet trolls, she should get the f**k off the internet. -_-

It would seem the me that she's handling him very well.
That was word play, for you less clever folk.


Shes sueing a fucking internet troll. That is not handleing it well. Best way to handle this shit is to IGNORE IT.

I think your the less clever one here.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
March 31 2012 02:05 GMT
#530
On March 31 2012 11:04 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:02 jinorazi wrote:
just so you guys know, photoshopping celebrity pictures can get you arrested. for example, take one of snsd girls face and put it on nude pornstar, that'll get you in trouble.


Does that apply only to celebrities? If so, how do they define celebrity? Just Curious. StartaleCurious.


all i know is two teenage kids were arrested for photoshopping snsd girl on a nude picture and posting it online.
i watch MBN whole time when i'm at work.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
March 31 2012 02:05 GMT
#531
On March 31 2012 11:01 Typhoon1789 wrote:
If jessica cannot handle the internet trolls, she should get the f**k off the internet. -_-


If the guy can't handle the Korean legal system he should get the fuck out of Korea.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
March 31 2012 02:05 GMT
#532
On March 31 2012 11:04 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:02 jinorazi wrote:
just so you guys know, photoshopping celebrity pictures can get you arrested. for example, take one of snsd girls face and put it on nude pornstar, that'll get you in trouble.


Does that apply only to celebrities? If so, how do they define celebrity? Just Curious. StartaleCurious.


Pretty sure he's just using it as an example since photoshopping celebrity photos are more commonplace than some random chick no one would know.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 31 2012 02:06 GMT
#533
Well let's not support cyber defamation, since that'll lower us to the level of the Fighting game community, and you wouldn't want to do that, Whether this is the right solution though, that's another thing, but to out right criticize Jessica for punishing Cyber defamation will make us seem as if we support it.

Everyone needs to first, disagree with cyber defamation then Criticize Jessica.

Omitting the first step of the proper process will come back to bite ourselves in the ass
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Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:11:41
March 31 2012 02:06 GMT
#534
On March 31 2012 11:05 Typhoon1789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:02 Chargelot wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:01 Typhoon1789 wrote:
If jessica cannot handle the internet trolls, she should get the f**k off the internet. -_-

It would seem the me that she's handling him very well.
That was word play, for you less clever folk.


Shes sueing a fucking internet troll. That is not handleing it well. Best way to handle this shit is to IGNORE IT.

I think your the less clever one here.


And the joke passes right over your head.

On March 31 2012 11:06 Blasterion wrote:
Well let's not support cyber defamation, since that'll lower us to the level of the Fighting game community, and you wouldn't want to do that, Whether this is the right solution though, that's another thing, but to out right criticize Jessica for punishing Cyber defamation will make us seem as if we support it.

Everyone needs to first, disagree with cyber defamation then Criticize Jessica.

Omitting the first step of the proper process will come back to bite ourselves in the ass


No, not really. It's the fact that it's even punishable by law that I find kind of disturbing. Not to mention the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of trolls that are going to do stuff like this to the team, it' just causing unnecessary drama. I understand why she's upset, but this is just getting repetitive.

On March 31 2012 11:02 jinorazi wrote:
just so you guys know, photoshopping celebrity pictures can get you arrested. for example, take one of snsd girls face and put it on nude pornstar, that'll get you in trouble.

i'm not sure why people are so acceptable to trolling especially when they're intentionally targeted towards a person/group with potential to do emotional and financial harm.

however i'd like to add jessica can be more calm.


Because I think freedom of speech/press is more important than a celebrities' feelings to be honest. The ability to take someone to court over something this minor (and 7 years in prison? lol?) is kind of ridiculous.
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HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:07:56
March 31 2012 02:06 GMT
#535
On March 31 2012 11:05 Typhoon1789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:02 Chargelot wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:01 Typhoon1789 wrote:
If jessica cannot handle the internet trolls, she should get the f**k off the internet. -_-

It would seem the me that she's handling him very well.
That was word play, for you less clever folk.


Shes sueing a fucking internet troll. That is not handleing it well. Best way to handle this shit is to IGNORE IT.

I think your the less clever one here.


How is this not handling it well? Ignoring it is your opinion, and legal action is hers.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 31 2012 02:06 GMT
#536
On March 31 2012 10:59 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:55 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:51 snailz wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:48 Roe wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:40 snailz wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:36 VasHeR wrote:
I feel obliged to post this to hopefully open people's eyes to a very simple and important truth. Please be aware that this is a general statement and may or may not pertain to Jessica.
The argument that "(name of prosecution) has nothing to gain, she does it because her cause is just" somehow overlooks the obvious and probable possibility that she/he is just a spiteful bitch/asshole.


ah, the freedom of speech.

if you don't want to respect your elders, or even oblige them with common decency not to curse at them, you can at least respect Korean law, and Korean culture, where as so many TL netizens reported - this is a common and widely accepted occurance.

or you can say shit and insult people and get away with it... fuck yeah!

Why can't you insult people?


do you insult people in real life?

hell you do.

my mind hurts, with who am i dealing with here

Well that's apparent. I can't understand what you even just said...Are you saying that since I insult people in real life I shouldn't online? Or that I don't insult people in real life?


i am saying you don't insult random strangers on the street in real life, and if you'd tried you would get

a) shunned by society
b) knocked out
c) arrested and sent to mental insitution for testing

but on the internet, yeah, let's insult random people because we have anonimity.

Well I agree for the most part, being shunned by society is a fair consequence of insulting random people on the street.

Keep in mind Jessica isn't just some random person on the street. She's in a chat room, on the internet. You can ban people for insulting you. You can't just magically cast a spell on a person to make their mouth close up outside the internet. Getting knocked out is violently taking out your anger against someone random on the street who insulted you, and you are then the person who should be arrested and sent to a mental institution for testing.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:09:26
March 31 2012 02:07 GMT
#537
On March 31 2012 10:47 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:44 callthecops wrote:
If you seriously want to make a person pay up to 44,000 dollars and possibly spend 7 years in prison just because your feelings were hurt online, you don't deserve to exist.


If you want to risk 44,000 dollars and risk spending 7 years in prison just to hurt someone's feelings, you don't deserve to exist.

See what I did there? This guy knew the law, he knew the risks of what he was doing, and he went ahead and did it anyway. He wanted to insult Jessica THAT badly?


Agreed. Similar lawsuits against people trolling on the internet has happened countless times in SK before.

Heck, even KT almost sued someone for flaming Flash.

These things are serious business in South Korea, and these people should have known better.
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Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 02:10:28
March 31 2012 02:07 GMT
#538
On March 31 2012 08:41 Pantythief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 08:39 itsjuspeter wrote:
On March 31 2012 08:36 NachiMe wrote:
Jessica being jessica, I feel pretty bad for nolgoituh though, sucks to be him.


Why would you feel bad for a guy behaving in such a manner even if under the guise of anonymity? It goes to show that feeling safe on the internet brings out the worst in people until something happens that makes them stop. Though I do believe Jessica needs to understand this is the internet and there are indeed way too many people who are like this. You cannot avoid it and I don't believe suing him will be the end of the trolling.


Is that how you would handle a situation like that? Immature as he may be, but sue the individual? World peace does not begin with making everyone poor.


remember the QQ drama over that hyper-life-update social network site where she was being generally vague and bitchy towards an ex-member cause he left?

remember when she made a huge WTF bomb over eve talking to a fan?

Histrionic Personality Disorder

How did she get her position in the first place? being the lay of the captain.

It all fits within the framework of HPD.
On March 31 2012 11:06 Blasterion wrote:
Well let's not support cyber defamation, since that'll lower us to the level of the Fighting game community, and you wouldn't want to do that, Whether this is the right solution though, that's another thing, but to out right criticize Jessica for punishing Cyber defamation will make us seem as if we support it.

Everyone needs to first, disagree with cyber defamation then Criticize Jessica.

Omitting the first step of the proper process will come back to bite ourselves in the ass


thats like calling people criticizing the war on terror a terrorist sympathizer. This is a common human logical fallacy, saying if you're not with you're against, and its evolutionary fitness business as usual, that doesn't make it intelligent or reasonable.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
March 31 2012 02:07 GMT
#539
On March 31 2012 11:05 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:04 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On March 31 2012 11:02 jinorazi wrote:
just so you guys know, photoshopping celebrity pictures can get you arrested. for example, take one of snsd girls face and put it on nude pornstar, that'll get you in trouble.


Does that apply only to celebrities? If so, how do they define celebrity? Just Curious. StartaleCurious.


all i know is two teenage kids were arrested for photoshopping snsd girl on a nude picture and posting it online.
i watch MBN whole time when i'm at work.


Ah ok. I think posting it online (distributing it) is what is actually illegal there. Probably. And I think its probably reasonable to assume that this applies not only to celebrities. Probably.

Thanks.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
March 31 2012 02:08 GMT
#540
On March 31 2012 10:49 Gheed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:46 snailz wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:42 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:40 snailz wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:36 VasHeR wrote:
I feel obliged to post this to hopefully open people's eyes to a very simple and important truth. Please be aware that this is a general statement and may or may not pertain to Jessica.
The argument that "(name of prosecution) has nothing to gain, she does it because her cause is just" somehow overlooks the obvious and probable possibility that she/he is just a spiteful bitch/asshole.


ah, the freedom of speech.

if you don't want to respect your elders, or even oblige them with common decency not to curse at them, you can at least respect Korean law, and Korean culture, where as so many TL netizens reported - this is a common and widely accepted occurance.

or you can say shit and insult people and get away with it... fuck yeah!


Who says I have to respect Korean laws or culture? If I think it's dumb, I'll say so. Being part of someone's culture doesn't place something above reproach.


because you should respect every culture, even if you don't understand it, or agree with it.

and certinly you don't agree with the guy that calls Boxer's wife spiteful bitch - because he can - at least? i mean you don't have to love the woman, but if we all interacted with each other that way, well, we'd have internet in real life. "trololol"


So you respect those African cultures who practice female circumcision?

Not every culture is right about everything, and I don't agree with this aspect of Korean culture.


that issue is actually very complex subject, and while i may not understand nor agree with that practice, i do respect the african cultures where such things occur, because there is so much more to them than that. and it's actually not an isolated or rare practice, more like 1/10th of Africa does it. so i hope you understand that me going "that's just retarded" is a wrong way to go, even though i would perhaps like to in regards to my own upbringing. proper thing to do is ask questions why, and look into historical context of the ritual...

so yes, respecting other cultures even when they seem retarded is actually best sign of respect. and that who gives, recieves
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