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On March 30 2012 20:22 Djagulingu wrote: The problem with this organization is the fact that they still have no leverage whatsoever over KeSPA. I don't see any reason why KeSPA can't say "fuck you guys" to this organization and do their own business. Exactly my view as well.
Not saying I hope they do or don't, I just don't see what kind of power this new organization has. Seems somewhat pointless - which only means I don't understand it, because obviously it was formed based on some idea.
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I hope this doesn't stirr up SC2Con-like drama but rather does what it's meant to. If it functions I can only see it being good for the scene.
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If they were smart they would try to get the big foreigners Liquid, mouz, Empire and Complexity join. With the foreign power against them KeSPA could pack its bags.
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On March 30 2012 15:50 rasers wrote: KeSPA asked them what they understand for "IP Rights". blizzard couldnt answer them the court pretty much ended and they met behind closed doors.
People keep bringing this up, but real courtrooms aren't like Perry Mason, where you ask a tough question and the whole case falls apart. If a lawyer says "I'm not ready to answer that" it's because they need time to prepare an answer, not that there isn't one. In any case, the parties settled because the judge was pushing them to settle rather than wasting court time, which is a standard practice around the world.
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On March 30 2012 20:41 sjperera wrote: No Slayers or oGs?
God just read what was posted in this thread...
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Current Korean Starcraft 2 teams Startale, IM, Prime, MVP, oGs, NSHoseo, FXO, TSL and ZeNEX have formed an organization named "e-Sports Federation". Startale's head coach Won JongWook will be its first president
No Slayers, oGs is in.
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wrong thread, pls delete.
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On March 30 2012 20:26 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 20:22 Djagulingu wrote: The problem with this organization is the fact that they still have no leverage whatsoever over KeSPA. I don't see any reason why KeSPA can't say "fuck you guys" to this organization and do their own business. Exactly my view as well. Not saying I hope they do or don't, I just don't see what kind of power this new organization has. Seems somewhat pointless - which only means I don't understand it, because obviously it was formed based on some idea.
The idea being that they want to have some control on how everything will work or they might not participate? Even if there's great BW pros that will switch over to SC2, not having the current top SC2 competition in your tournaments would really hurt.
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On March 30 2012 20:29 Aunvilgod wrote: If they were smart they would try to get the big foreigners Liquid, mouz, Empire and Complexity join. With the foreign power against them KeSPA could pack its bags. Because the Korean teams think foreigners are valuable to them...? Seriously?
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This is pretty hilarious.
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On March 30 2012 21:06 Milkis wrote: This is pretty hilarious.
It's no laughing matter for a lot of people involved. Their FUTURES are at stake! (:
On a more serious note, if anyone wants to know exactly what games are sanctioned by Kespa, then here's the list: Kespa Game List
And yes, League of Legends is on there. It's also hilarious to see what games have come and gone under the "disqualification" list.
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On March 30 2012 21:04 ImbaTosS wrote: Because the Korean teams think foreigners are valuable to them...? Seriously?
Foreign participation helps with viewer numbers quite a bit, even when they lose. Why do you think both KESPA and GOM have been so eager to accommodate foreign players in the past? (Though as FXOBoss points out, KESPA did so by providing them a way to join a Korean organization rather than bringing their own in with them.)
Edit: This new federation seem to have made clear foreign organizations are free to join.
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Kespa might have the money, but the current SC2 teams have the fanbase, so it's good they banded together.
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On March 30 2012 21:11 Novalisk wrote: Kespa might have the money, but the current SC2 teams have the fanbase, so it's good they banded together.
The only thing the current SC2 teams have are the (probably) better players since all of them play SC2 full time. KeSPA outstrips them in every way. Remember, they're trying to get deals to join KeSPA sanctioned leagues.
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Why are people so afraid of Kespa? They have good players sure, but so does GOM and other international tournaments. If Kespa were to completely shun and ignore the other events they for sure will be shooting themselves in the foot.
I have a feeling that if Kespa were to make a play for the Korean SC2 scene they will wait and play nice till they cement themselves in the scene, then go for the killing blow to GOM TV in which case they will retain their power in Korea here after.
Though overall I don't understand how any player would want to work for Kespa, from all the silly stuff I've heard them force players to do, joining their SC2 league seems like the stupidest thing a player could do.
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On March 30 2012 21:18 Synboi wrote: Why are people so afraid of Kespa? They have good players sure, but so does GOM and other international tournaments. If Kespa were to completely shun and ignore the other events they for sure will be shooting themselves in the foot.
I have a feeling that if Kespa were to make a play for the Korean SC2 scene they will wait and play nice till they cement themselves in the scene, then go for the killing blow to GOM TV in which case they will retain their power in Korea here after.
Though overall I don't understand how any player would want to work for Kespa, from all the silly stuff I've heard them force players to do, joining their SC2 league seems like the stupidest thing a player could do.
Speculation here.
I think it's cause the number of GSLs in a year isn't increasing any time soon.There isn't too many leagues the med-high ranked Koreans can continually participate in.
And participation in Proleague will be an amazing way to attract sponsors. Just think. Many of the biggest teams pay millions of dollars to get represented in Proleague, and SC2 teams are probably desperate enough to accept any amount of money.
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I hope this gets the Sc2 teams the fair share they deserve for helping this thing to grow.
We'll just have to wait and see
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how exactly does this differ from the 'sc2con' that existed, said a similar message then did nothing but try and ban its players from streaming?
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On March 30 2012 21:26 Frail wrote: I hope this gets the Sc2 teams the fair share they deserve for helping this thing to grow.
We'll just have to wait and see
They will.... If they actually have the skill required to enter KeSPA, they will be elegible to PROBABLY win a lot of money and potential sponsors. Also Koreans won't need to fly arround the world to win real $$$. They can just sit in their country and do that. Now isn't that great
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