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On March 26 2012 10:20 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:12 cablesc wrote:
Speculation on format of Spring Arena #1. So they need to stretch out an 8 man tournament over 3 days. And provide enough content for people to buy the PPV. Here's how I would organize it to maximize games/content:
Group A/B
#1 -> Seeded to Semi-Finals/Ro4
#2 -> To Quarter-Finals/ro6
#3 -> To Quarter-Finals/ro6
#4 -> Eliminated
Quarter-finals:
2a vs 3b Best of 5
3a vs 2b Best of 5
Semi-finals Best of 5
Finals Best of 7
If they keep the PPV price low, I bet they could turn a nice profit, especially since they lucked out with the player pool (two foreigners and a couple popular Koreans in MKP/DRG and to a lessor extent Violet). With 4 streams they could have a full league where all 8 are in the same group and play everyone. Thats only 7 sets of 4 matches that could be day 1. Sounds like there will be plenty of time left over for fun games I hope they have a bunch of those! (FFA, team games, monobattles, sc2bw, htscustom, whatever fun crazy stuff they can find on battlenet, completely other games)
That would actually be fucking awesome. Best of 3's full league format going purely on overall map wins with imo the top four going into a semi final/final bracket.
It will be double elim with extended series though sadly.
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I feel like they need a better naming scheme... Its confusing as hell having two winter arenas and two spring arenas or a winter arena and winter championship... What was wrong with Winter Arena then MLG Columbus, Spring Arena then MLG Anaheim?
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On March 26 2012 09:36 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +Spring Arena 2 – May 18-20 – NYC – LIVE Broadcast
Spring Arena 2 will take place on May 18 – 20 in NYC. This Arena will be very similar in structure to the Winter Arena. There will be 32 players: the Top 4 from Arena 1, the Top 8 from each Region of the Invite-Only Qualifiers, and 4 additional players that will be announced. Hmmm. What's that about? And I agree that spring arena seems redundant, I'm not against it or anything, but there's a balance to maintain between frequency of events and players attending them regularly. Do that many korean-based players (7 out of 8 are) want to fly out for yet another weekend while they're in a code S season?
This intrigues me too... Basically, the way I read it is that the entire Spring Arena 1 seems based around reducing the number of invites from the Top 8 of this MLG championship down to 4 for Spring Arena 2... JUST to open up these 4 additional spots filled with "to be announced" players...
What are you planning, you sneaky devils you....
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On March 26 2012 10:32 VavPK wrote:
MLG without boxer, mma, coca, or puzzle = not a tournament id enjoy watching. Sorry... the same top 8 players again is UGH. If anything invite top 4 then invite 4 new players.
So you want them to invite 4 random players who didn't earn anything in the most recent MLG? That makes no sense.
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MLG will shock us all, and those unannounced players will be none other then BW pros, Flash and Bisu hwaiting 
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If I have one complaint, it's in regards to the regional qualifiers. I feel that the online qualifiers would be made much more effective and appropriate in ensuring that top level competition resonates throughout these competition weekends. It seems like quite a service for foreigners to make their way into the competition, despite failing to make big strides since time immemorial. As much as I am one for the spirit of the foreigner, I am much more inclined to favor the spirit of competition in these weekends where I marvel at the accuracy, precision, and fortitude with which these young specialists brutalize each other.
While I understand the importance of marketability to an audience that most identifies with foreign players and teams, I think it's more important to capture the indomitable progamer's spirit and skills, which is, based on pretty convincing empirical evidence over the past always, centered on Koreans.
This, of course, is all assuming that a global online qualifier would result in seeds that are won by exclusively Koreans. Which, let's be totally honest, is more likely than not. Plus, we've already the open bracket for those, in this hypothetical scenario, that didn't make it through qualifiers.
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Hm well this looks very cool but more and more I get the impression that the Starcraft market is so overfilled right now.
I am a very dedicated fan but even for me that gets a little bit too much, well I guess i just wont watch all of that. The only concern I have is that it becomes very hard to really celebrate victories and players if a new champion is crowned every weekend.
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A bit worried about the top 32 in ladder, as this could easily lead to ladder abuse. Besides a guy like Deezer might get in. Otherwise, I hope to see some new faces
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err what i don't like is how it's hard to get into the MLG "system" for a player once the first event has kicked in. Right now there is only the Open Online Qualifiers that allows and 4 invitations spots.
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On March 26 2012 11:21 Marou wrote:
err what i don't like is how it's hard to get into the MLG "system" for a player once the first event has kicked in. Right now there is only the Open Online Qualifiers that allows and 4 invitations spots.
Or you can buy a competitor pass to play at a championship event?
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Really looking forward to this!
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On March 26 2012 11:11 Kubricks wrote:
If I have one complaint, it's in regards to the regional qualifiers. I feel that the online qualifiers would be made much more effective and appropriate in ensuring that top level competition resonates throughout these competition weekends. It seems like quite a service for foreigners to make their way into the competition, despite failing to make big strides since time immemorial. As much as I am one for the spirit of the foreigner, I am much more inclined to favor the spirit of competition in these weekends where I marvel at the accuracy, precision, and fortitude with which these young specialists brutalize each other.
Players are free to enter whichever regional qualifier they want. WhiteRa did Korea last time because he was traveling for example.
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Please fix the stupid extended series method of play..
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anyone know where i can get that electro song they play between games?
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On March 26 2012 11:21 Marou wrote:
err what i don't like is how it's hard to get into the MLG "system" for a player once the first event has kicked in. Right now there is only the Open Online Qualifiers that allows and 4 invitations spots.
It's not hard though. You just need to finish top 8 in a qualifier (for your region) where the majority of players wont be playing as they're already in the system. Once you do that you're in the regular qualifier like everyone else.
Or you can just go to an MLG Open Bracket and finish in the top 80 (surely not that hard).
Given that Assembly and Dreamhack are basically invite only and NASL/IPL require you win a qualifier vs Code S Koreans it's a hell of a lot easier than any tournament except IEM and unlike IEM, MLG is paying 100% of your costs if you qualifier so that anyone regardless of team, location or anything else can attend provided they are good enough to win their way there.
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It looks like MLG is just using Arena 1 as a test. As Sundance has said before they need to create more content, as a business they cant have just 4 major events per year they need to at least pay their variable costs with smaller events along the way.
I foresee the first Arena tourney being $5-10 dollars, they seem to have done fine when assembly was the same weekend and for a smaller event with pretty much only top tier games that seems super reasonable to me. And as someone else said this will open up 4 slots for invites of MLGs choosing.
We will see if the schedule ends up being to crammed, but I feel that this is a good time for them to test it and find out.
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On March 26 2012 10:52 NKexquisite wrote:
I feel like they need a better naming scheme... Its confusing as hell having two winter arenas and two spring arenas or a winter arena and winter championship... What was wrong with Winter Arena then MLG Columbus, Spring Arena then MLG Anaheim?
And the fact that "Winter" events were hosted in Spring... VERY CONFUSING!!!
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Needlessly complicated with multiple arenas that I feel are just there to keep the spotlight on MLG and of course our money.
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top 32 GM for each region? thats like 10 people for KR. also arena 1 with 8 people...better not be $20. its cool that MLG is flying people out for the arenas, but this is like once a month now and the money could certainly be put towards better uses
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