Poll: Does playing starcraft make you angry/upset?
I get angry but it's internal and usually at myself. (603)
56%
I can't help but rage uncontrollably. (227)
21%
No effect. (157)
15%
I shed tears of sadness as I GG. (91)
8%
1078 total votes
Your vote: Does playing starcraft make you angry/upset?
(Vote): No effect. (Vote): I get angry but it's internal and usually at myself. (Vote): I can't help but rage uncontrollably. (Vote): I shed tears of sadness as I GG.
Just a quick explanation for why I wanted to make this thread.
For all my life I have been a relatively calm but competitive person. I have played professional competitive sports without many incidents involving myself despite being playing for a team Notorious for raging, being banned etc(and people knew this and took advantage of this).
However I do find that the one thing that really gets under my skin is Starcraft. The joy, satisfaction and sense of achievement of winning a game on ladder is also accompanied by a sense of anger, frustration and depression(why do i spend my time in this game, im going nowhere, not real life shitty mood depression lol).
In my earlier RTS days playing WC3 I had a few occasions where I would break my keyboard or small things around me, but I was quite a young child at that point. Now any "rage" that may develop usually just leads to me watching a replay and getting mad at my mistakes and I generally only rage at an opponent if I'm provoked or having a particularly terrible string of losing streaks and luck. My biggest lash-out is usually punching my arm-chair or desk with an open fist or cussing myself out for being stupid(like when you have a huge lead, but fail to react in time or get complacent and lose, things like that REALLY get under my skin).
I've also noticed that in my masters players I play, it is very seldom to receive a simple GG. I'd say about 10% of my victories end in this; most of the games the player will either just leave without saying anything, complain about balance, or be straight up twats and BM to hell before GTFO'ing. Also, in the games I lose, many of them end in offensive GG's, "get out" or "EZ". I've even had a couple situations where I've typed "gg wp" to receive "EZ noob gtfo" in reply...things like this serve to make me more likely to reply in kind the next game I win.
Personally I think this happens because I invest a great deal of my personal life to SC2 playing/watching/reading that when things don't go my way it's bad times; for those of you who work, it feels like when you submit a proposal/piece of work for students and your boss/teacher absolutely tears it apart despite you having legitimately having worked very hard on it.
How does Starcraft and your relative success in it reflect your mood and how do you deal with the emotions it generates?
I get somewhat angry at myself when I lose to people I feel/know I am better than. I know I should have won, but played bad and lost. Get mad when I knew I could have done a lot better. Motivates me to play harder. Now days I dont get angry that often. Maybe it is because I dont lose so much to early cheeses and dont care that much anymore. Ladder games are just simple practice for me, and I have little to no emotional investment in them.
I never get angry at the opponent though. Well maybe if they lift off all their buildings, but still then I know I won so convincingly that they got this mad. Makes me both mad and happy at the same time.
For me starcraft are one of the few games where i never rage uncontrollably. I may get angry, but it is never shown on the outside. I think that is because of how exausting the game is in a way, since when pllaying bf2 or other fps games i usually slam my hands into the table or something when i die.
Maybe one of the big reasons for that difference is because, in fps games most deaths which can be compared to losses in a sense, comes from one mistake, in most cases that is. While in starcraft, you mostly lose beacuse of many consecutive mistakes.
That is at least my take on why i don't rage in starcraft
I am a generally calm person, ( I spent 4 hours in bumper to bumper traffic and was perfectly fine), but when playing SC2 I can get mad at myself when I make mistakes I know not to do and the ilk. I suppose it good to release that anger every once in a while, so I dont worry about it.
I am incredibly calm and peaceful person, but SC2 turns me into a raging monster. If there was a way to kill someone over the internet I would be mass murderer by now. It's like 2 minutes of rage and then I'm cool again. Not my fault that retarded ladder shit is so annoying
Typically, I rage at myself, at how stupid I was, or how I didn't realize he was doing something even though the signs were there. Sometimes, cheeses make me rage at them.
Also, when my brother bothers me in a game makes me rage at him :S
I try my best to not be angry at my opponents even if they cheese or all-in. Sometimes I'm mad at myself for doing dumb mistakes but everytime you lose there is more to learn
I rage quite a lot. After a loss I'm met with an uncontrollable urge to fix things, which makes me want to click the find match button as soon as possible. However, I'm usually still depressed about the loss and don't feel like playing.
Edit: I think it brings out my anger because I expect myself to be artful. If I execute a strategy like a timing push, it feels like I must win here and now, and even if I lose the push but win the game later, it'll be a fuck-up. Like, in the same way that you can't just flop a piano recital and try again right there on the spot, because then the whole point of it would be lost; you have to succeed, or pull it off.
There are a few games that bring the worst of me out there (SC2, Street Fighter IV, Dota 2..), sometimes I even have the urge to like write "Fuck you" or "asshole" in the chat but I can always control that and decide not to type that in. I sometimes wish I could just control the anger more since it sometimes really hinders my ability to enjoy the game.
And I'm usually a very calm and friendly type as well, it seems only those games like make me really mad.
On March 21 2012 00:34 Sosweets wrote: I don't get mad, maybe a sigh every now and then though. Losing ladder points makes me a sad panda T_T
Haha, I do the same thing. I'll be ahead, but make some small game-losing mistake somewhere, knowing I lost, and just siiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhh. Sad, sad, panda.
When I first started playing SC2 when it came out laddering was very frustrating. I was really bad at it, I was poor at everything I did from scouting to macro. At times I would just get really mad and make angry sounds. Then eventually I got discouraged and stopped laddering.
And now I have go back to laddering again, but switched from terran to zerg. I am better at doing things and when I started to ladder I told myself just be calm when I lose don't rage and junk it will only just make it worse for myself. So when I lose it's kinda like take a deep breath phewwwwww it's over. And at times I just get sad cause I know I screwed up. I really try to learn from what I did wrong. If I lose I will just gg and leave the game, there is really no need to BM people when you leave the game imo.
I think for me, the only anger I experience is that feeling of not being able to express who I really am or what I'm truly capable of. Starcraft 2 is one of those games where you have to be sharp 24/7, or you lose everything. It's not like Counter-Strike or Sports, where I could not play for a week and still be good after a quick warm up. When I first picked Sc2 up I practiced for about a week against AI and then played a few ladder matches. I was awarded Platinum, which made me pretty proud of myself because I felt like being in the middle of the pack on my first week was a moderate accomplishment. Then I didn't play for a few days because I get burned out quickly, and when I came back I dropped games all the way to silver. To go from beating Platinum players to being smashed by Silver players in a few days is a bit much. I felt like unless I was willing to essentially dedicate my life to the game and play it several hours a day, there's no way I could ever feel good about my skill level. There's no way I could ever know how good I really was, or could have been. That's why I decided to be a manager instead of a player. I love the game, I love the community, even though there are so many BM people, it's all part of the experience. Being a manager allows me to be emotionally detached and just enjoy the pure essence of Starcraft 2. It's a game of truth, and there is little to no luck involved when you really get into it. There's no such thing as a lucky shot. A bronze player will never beat a Grand Master, not even 1 in 1,000 games. That's why I respect it and the people who play it seriously so much.
I watch my players pour their hearts into a game that never forgives weakness. I watch them challenge themselves, and it honestly is an emotional journey. It may just be a game but at the same time, isn't everything in life really the same? Isn't everything a test of who you are? If you fail at games, business, love, it all hurts, it all makes you question where you stand in the universe. Why aren't you the best? Why are they winning and you're losing? What's wrong with you? I think that the people who can brush it all off are the people who don't really care, but not caring is not the same as being strong. Starcraft 2 is a metaphor for the essential human experience, as is everything else. You express yourself honestly, you take a chance, you give it your all and whatever echoes back is what you have to accept as truth for the time being. You win, you lose, you get made fun of, you get hoisted up on shoulders. I think the only reason people can laugh at those who get mad at a game is because they have never honestly risked giving 100%. Otherwise they'd understand. It's not the medium that matters, it's the fundamental experience of self-discovery.
That's why it's so amazing to watch and be a part of. It's got characters, and they have stories, but it's real and it's raw. There's no glamour in breaking a keyboard because you don't know if you can believe in yourself after losing to someone you thought you were better than.
If you honestly don't learn anything about yourself playing Starcraft 2, you're doing something wrong.
The only anger I usually display is a loud "fuck!" when I do something stupid, if I'm out of a game and I'm still frustrated after 7 breaths, I swear once really loud and that usually helps assuage my rage.
I used to get mad at losing and would rage or just be grumpy (my wife's term for "oh god he's pissed at losing again") but eventually, I started playing random, or doing weird and shitty builds. If they worked, it was great, if they didn't, no big deal, hit Find Match again. Nowadays I play my main race again (toss) and losing doesn't really annoy me anymore. I've come to realize that those precious ladder points aren't really as important as the developing skills one picks up when you lose.
After reading The Art of Learning, it's easier to be more zen after a loss, especially if it's something you can learn from.
I'm only angry when I lose TvT. Because in TvZ I've about 80% win ratio, and when I lose it means that my opponent really outplayed me or I have made a mistake.
I TvT I'm sometimes angry, because in mirror matches too much depends on luck in early game (build order wins etc. ).
If I lose TvP I never get angry, because you have to pull out a miracle, be a Korean or get lucky (opponent forgetting about researching Storm or Charge etc.) if you want to win. Shortly said, on my level (high diamond) you don't win TvP without cheesing, so there's nothing to be getting angry about.
I used to ladder a lot when my gf would go to work then I would be in a bad mood all night/pissed if I did really bad, I started just focusing on myself and my personal goals to get better and not base on the result. I have been less pissed since.
I get annoyed at best, mostly at myself and i neve BM on ladder cuz of it. That would just be narrow mindedly stupid. The only game that makes me "Rage" is Super meat boy <.< boy do i rage after doing the same stage 40 times :@.
I only ever get angry while losing due to a stupid mistake by me or die to cheese. I only ever get angry with myself and just gg out of a game while swearing to myself, but I never take it out on my opponent. It generally fades before I manage to go downstairs to make myself some tea though, which is something I do a lot to clear my mind, whether it's after a difficult win or a loss.
Nothing pisses me off more than playing for 20-30 mins and ending up losing to something ridiculous such as unit placement even though my army is stronger than his. Just small mistakes which I know at the moment "This is wrong", and I know I could've done better. It pisses me off so much and I start rage yelling at the monitor and smashing my hand in my keyboard.
I just feel like it is 20-30 mins of my life which is wasted. And I know "Well then you learned that you don't have to do that again", but the thing is I know what I'm doing wrong, and that pisses me off.
I feel ya Geneside. I used to go crazy when i lose. but lately, even with multiple times losing in a row i still sorta keep my cool (with alittle curse here and there) but thats because I totally understand the game better now than i used too and normally it would be my own mistake because i didn't do this or that / etc. bottom line, the more you understand the game, the better you will handle your frustration, anger or depression as you may call it =P (back then, i hate it when you lose and you don't even know why lol)
The only thing that makes me rage with it is when they do an offensive GG. They can cannon rush me all they want, but the instant that GG comes out from them I lose my shit.
feel sad for my opponent if i mess up and don't deliver a good fight, so i say sorry. As for the bm, children who want to act like they are big. Society educates them into this direction, so they can boot out everyone else in their jobs later, while keeping a fake positive mind set. The only bit i find annoying is that they bm while ignoring you, simple because they are unable to deal with replies. Just a funny comic http://xkcd.com/1027/ ladder looked alot like this though, before they have found the ignore all button.
But most people don't talk on ladder, simply because they need it to ignore the bm going on, so i don't mind no ggs, those people just don't want this easy taunts etc.
I found that SC2 used to make me mad when I thought it was (for some reason) important to be "good", but then once I switched over to a mindset of just trying to learn the game and improve it mostly stopped. Doing poorly is frustrating but now I usually just laugh because there is no real end goal of winning games or something. Hippie level shit.
I used to get angry a lot when I was trying to get to masters. Now I just play random and play the game for fun. Once you realize that you are never going to become a professional and that the games you play have no real meaning, the game becomes much more enjoyable.
I was angry at myself when loosing and that slowly lead to me not having fun with the game. Then i switched to random and eventhough i made people angry, because i was random, i started to have fun. Also no longer caring for ladder ranking set in. I will never be good enough to be a pro or something so i just enjoy myself while playing.
I've had a massive temper since I was a kid, but I've almost completely learned to control it irl. I haven't lashed out at someone uncontrollably in probably 5 years.
My anger has always been linked to a lack of control or power in a situation. As I've gotten older, smarter, and more skilled at various things, I rarely feel out of control or helpless with respect to another individual.
However, Starcraft brings out that old anger like nothing else. I rage like crazy. I hate losing at anything, but in Starcraft a loss can be for so many reasons at my level that seem completely out of my control. I'm just not good enough to make all the right decisions (or scout all the right places or control my units/macro good enough, you get the point). And when I pair this with the mental image of my opponent being a dolt who I should be superior to, it really gets under my skin. Yes this is a pride problem, my point is that Starcraft has a way of humbling its players due to the combination of both skill and chance required in playing it, and this really irks me (but I always come back for more).
Normally I'm a nice guy and people have said that I have a "kind heart." SC2 sometimes brings the worst out in me. It's actually hard for me to type "gg" when I lose these days. I just either surrender and find another match, or I'll say something ridiculous, like "yeah, mass lings ftw" or "k" or "cool." I try not to BM, it just happens.
Of course that it brings my anger.I GG Always anyway,despite cheese,i used to not GG,but now i gg every game,i rarely dont gg. The biggest rage i had is to throw my headphones.
I used to rage but now i don't see the point. rage only makes myself worse as a player and i don't learn anything. Earlier today i was 8 pooled(i play protoss) i lost(scouted him last) but i still GG. tbh I find GGing helps my emotion. Like i accept the fact that my opponent beat me, watch the replay and move on.
On March 21 2012 01:56 FeyFey wrote: feel sad for my opponent if i mess up and don't deliver a good fight, so i say sorry. As for the bm, children who want to act like they are big. Society educates them into this direction, so they can boot out everyone else in their jobs later, while keeping a fake positive mind set. The only bit i find annoying is that they bm while ignoring you, simple because they are unable to deal with replies. Just a funny comic http://xkcd.com/1027/ ladder looked alot like this though, before they have found the ignore all button.
But most people don't talk on ladder, simply because they need it to ignore the bm going on, so i don't mind no ggs, those people just don't want this easy taunts etc.
Thats the best xkcd I've ever read. It applies to so much beyond gaming or picking up girls.
I never get emotionally invested during a ladder or tournament game. It's basically a self-defense mechanism to ensure that I can perform to the best of my ability while in a game, and be more open to feedback and to analysing my mistakes afterwards. I am always open to help my opponent identify his mistakes too.
If you lose, it's your fault and you can learn from it and just take all the positives from that game and forget about all the redundant information. If you rage after a loss that's a mentality problem. There is always an answer to what you lost to, even though it might not be evident at first. Of course there can be an occurence where something is on the edge of being wonky/"imbalanced" but instead of wasting time being mad about it, convert that into motivation to find a way to deal with it.
Taking breaks in-between games is also a good way to recollect thoughts, process the game you just played and to get some movement and distraction before you go for another game.
Always gg tho! (And if you don't feel like getting provoked by your opponent, F11 -> block , then at the end of the game unblock)
I play for fun, so when I lose I consider it a part of playing and therefore find losing fun.
Of course it's not nearly as much fun as winning, but I do catch myself smiling time to time when someone out plays me. Especially if they are in a lower league.
But if I lose to something like a canon rush, I just might stick my tongue out at them and let out a big sppplllllllllllllltttttttt.
Sometimes in games, I have this voice in my head going "you need to tech swap to this now" or "he's got to be doing this, start preparing" and when that voice is right but I didn't listen, then I get really, really mad at myself....especially when it's a game I had won or should have won.
I dont get angry at all, but I'm only high (mmr) masters in teamgames as I dont play any 1:1. But even 50apm gold players tell you to "learn to play noob" when you metagame them in 3:3 so doubt that style of bm is only among masters in 1:1.
Starcraft is very unforgiving, even at the low levels. Mistakes are easy to make, and are quite deadly. I get frustrated sometimes, and angry at myself. But I never have anger toward the opponent, because I KNOW that if anything, I should blame myself for the loss, not him. When I lose, it's my own fault; this statement is true 99% of the time in starcraft 2.
I try not to get affected at all and usually I really don't care when I lose. Altho once in a blue moon I am a bit angry after losing to several cheap cheeses in a row^^ But I'm always super mannered
I turn into "good guy Toren" online and I never rage hahah. I mean I get frustrated with myself and will say things like "why would you do that?" out loud to myself, but I don't think I've ever gotten legitimately angry at the opponent or myself for anything. :p
When I start losing, every thing they do is "gay". Like, drops and stuff. I'm like, "Omfg, this scrub just doing this shit, getting annoying". I never actually say anything to them because it's stupid, but it does frustrate me in real life, especially when people do weird stuff. I then start saying stuff, "Who goes [x]?!" and if I lose, I don't mind then because if it was that stupid, I shouldn't have lost.
Nah, I don't get angry at all, I just get really disappointed in myself, and then I get annoyed that I care so much about something which matters so little. But yeah, worst situations it has really ruined my day, a 4 game losing streak and I was pretty depressed until next morning.
It's getting better now though, trying to simply accept loses and move on, if you don't play you will obviously suck, so there's no reason to get depressed that you suck if it will stop you from getting better.
I will occasionally get irritated, which results in extremely rare bm, and in either case it subsides after a few minutes and I look at what I did wrong rather than staying mad.
I get extremely frustrated and at times want to quit, but I usually get over it. The problem is, I feel like I put so much damn effort into the game only to lose to the stupidest of things. I’ve been playing this game non-stop since it’s come out and I’m gold *boohoo* lol..
One of the biggest things that frustrate me is the Protoss Deathball. If I can’t manage to cripple them or take them out and they tech up to Colossus, gateway units and HT’s I get owned every time. Most of the time I avoid their army like the plague, because I feel like there’s no way in hell I can take it head on. Even if I have 3 vikings for every colossus and have several ghosts to carpet bomb them with emp’s. Those storms just obliterate me. Don’t think I’m qq’ing about balance. I know it can be done, I’ve seen a lot of great players do it, but I can’t seem to figure it out myself.
It’s usually the transitions into the mid to late games that get me with Zerg and Protoss. Owell I’ll just keep trucking along, but yes this is probably one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever played.
On March 21 2012 01:05 SCSChimera wrote: I think for me, the only anger I experience is that feeling of not being able to express who I really am or what I'm truly capable of....I felt like unless I was willing to essentially dedicate my life to the game and play it several hours a day, there's no way I could ever feel good about my skill level. There's no way I could ever know how good I really was, or could have been. .... It's a game of truth, and there is little to no luck involved when you really get into it. There's no such thing as a lucky shot. .... That's why I respect it and the people who play it seriously so much.
I watch my players pour their hearts into a game that never forgives weakness. I watch them challenge themselves, and it honestly is an emotional journey..... Why aren't you the best? Why are they winning and you're losing? What's wrong with you? I think that the people who can brush it all off are the people who don't really care, but not caring is not the same as being strong. Starcraft 2 is a metaphor for the essential human experience, as is everything else. You express yourself honestly, you take a chance, you give it your all and whatever echoes back is what you have to accept as truth for the time being. You win, you lose, you get made fun of, you get hoisted up on shoulders. I think the only reason people can laugh at those who get mad at a game is because they have never honestly risked giving 100%. Otherwise they'd understand. It's not the medium that matters, it's the fundamental experience of self-discovery.
That's why it's so amazing to watch and be a part of. It's got characters, and they have stories, but it's real and it's raw. There's no glamour in breaking a keyboard because you don't know if you can believe in yourself after losing to someone you thought you were better than.
If you honestly don't learn anything about yourself playing Starcraft 2, you're doing something wrong.
I have made an excerpt of your comment Chimera.
Personally, the above describes my view and experience on Sc2 quite beautifully.
Starcraft is my favorite game and its a little part of my life. It is normal to get angry sometimes when you lose to a certain player. I usually get angry when I am cheesed and mostly against protoss.
Yup, I rage...I usually like to call people names or talk crap, and I usually feel better(that's what matters in the end amirite?). Double that if they win on accountability, you know like 2 banelings killing like half your army or you know mass storms easy mode. But usually when i rage like that I don't care if i loss the game as long as i win the troll war.
PS - I don't even play anymore, maybe 1 game a month...sometime I even dread loading the game up anymore(and yes I don't because in my opinion there's a balance thing and In my opinion I believe each race takes certain skill levels or lack their of to be successful).. I used to be all about this game, but sadly like many people I've lost my passion for it I guess, it's so sad now that I choose dota 2 streams over sc2 ones
When I used to play zerg and lost to some banshee rush or mass marines/bunker rush I would get so angry i would have to do push-ups until I calmed down. infact I broke the keyboard stand beneath my desk from losing to a marine scv all in. Now I play terran I'll rage and BM about 30% of the time and that tends to be almost always when I lose in late game TvP. and that's the worse case senario.
I get frustrated with myself, so I chose internal anger as the closest option.
Starcraft is my way to compete, it would be completely silly to say that there is no emotion attached to the game under these circumstances. However, I never blame the opponent, the game, I just recognize that I need to improve myself and I will win next time.
I get angry and BM sometimes, but I wont start rambling uncontrollably and saying stuff like "i fuck ur mother anally" and "i hope you die", stuff like that just encourages trolling and should never be attempted. I do however admit I'm an SC2 racist, because I f*cking hate toss, and most tosses will know that before I leave the game.
But if it matters at all I am so goddamn jealous at you guys that just lose and move on, I can do that for maybe 1-2losses, after that I start to get really pissed off and respond to "glhf" with a "rofl".
Yes. I get mad at myself for how bad I am. Its really stressful and frustrating when I lose now because of something as simple as a supply block. I miss the days where I could get better just by fixing the massive flaws in my macro.
Recently I've been taking an extended break from SC2 just cause I'm tired of the stress of laddering. I have enough stress from school right now anyway
I used to get really angry when I lost, or even when I won and thought the other guy played like an ass.
Now though, im just super sickenly gm all game.
"gl hf friend!", "how is your night going?" "gg " "wp"
That sort of carebear shit. It feels really wierd acting like this even when I get cheesed/whatever. But I've found, that when I do this; I just dont get angry. Not even a little bit. My ladder stamina has increased ten fold because every game is not stressful.
I find if i lose like my first 5 games of the day, I'm much less angry later. It's all about setting the bar really low, so when you finally win one game 10 games later, it feels like an awesome achievement!
1. No rage: "Damn, he played that game well and I actually had a chance to win, but it was my fault for not siezing the oppourtunity. I ain't even mad"
2. Minimal rage: "Why is my PvP so bad :/"
3. Rage: "K, there was nothing I could do against ~100 food roach at the 12 minute mark. I didn't have enough units out even though I invested in weapon upgrades, sentries, stlakers, and immortals. He just overran me and I couldn't even do anything to punish his fast expansions since roaches eat up any kind of zealot and zerglings will eat up and waste sentry energy that are needed for roaches."
If you type in ggwp at the end, you feel less rage and get over it quickly. Dunno if it works for other people but it works for me.
I rage if I feel I'm being BM'ed or lose to... well not imbalance... but things I feel are too strong or too strong synergy... When I feel to someone who just straight up outplayed me, I'm not angry at all. But once people start to talk shit, I actually get angry. Never trashed any hardware 'cuz of SC2 though
Sometimes I write "gg" if I felt like it was actually a good game, sometimes I just "wp" if I played like shit/my opponent played well, and other times if I lose to a cheese I just leave, because I don't feel like that deserves either, and sometimes I'm just so mad at myself that I just leave without saying anything either.
As a terran I feel really helpless lategame though. I feel like my race without a doubt is the weakest race lategame(which I love playing. Less for every patch that comes along though). :p So I don't know where to place my anger, and end up going on a massive tilt, while I just keep playing losing most of my following games.
I've met some random ragers last few days. Yesterday I met a huge douchebag that said I should leave the game, because he's high masters on KR, and told me that I'm gonna lose one way or another, and started BM'ing me later in the game, when I wouldn't leave for him. I also ran into another terran bm'ing me for going biomech despite of himself playing..biomech. And a whole lot of protosses that say "This is a joke", when I go for a Thor/Banshee/ghost army composition and win with it.
I don't really care about raging, I fully understand if people get mad at a game such as this, and even if I say something bad myself I still respect my opponent, especially because I know it's a person that also loves and invests a lot of time into the game despite of what I/he may have said in anger, because this is a really stressful game, and I can't imagine how much more stressing it would be if we didn't have pros to demonstrate good standard play for us to follow.
Something that actually helped me control my feelings was that I started to force myself to write gg after a loss, no matter what. Somehow the words bring acceptance, but obviously still feel frustrated that I didn't win. The next step is identifying WHY you lost. Once you know why you lost, you now feel in control as you can prevent this from happening again.
Starcraft, more so than any game I know (besides real life), is a game of skill. It's not like competitive shooters, DOTAs or competitive team sports where you can blame team mates, or like 1v1 fighting games, where there is very little game balance. When you lose a game of SC, it's because you're a worse player than your opponent. This is what makes the game exciting, when players play they risk not just ladder points, but dignity.
When I lose a game on ladder, I don't feel anything but respect for my opponent for being better than me. I only disrespect opponents when disrespected first.
I used to rage but it's not a big deal anymore. Understand why you lost and move on because getting angry is not beneficial. Easier said than done, for sure.
I sometimes get slightly angry playing SC2 though it's more getting mad at me and a little sad. I never insult anyone except for fun when I am not actually angry (usually when I won and opponent insults me). I always gg. When opponents offensive gg me or do something similar, I build shit everywhere and go afk.
When I play LoL however, I get so angry that sometimes I feel physical pain and I catch myself shouting at the people I am not in Skype with. I used to play it with my "normal internet friends" but at one point, we played a game, got mad at each other, didn't talk for a week or so. That was the point we decided not to play it anymore.
On March 21 2012 00:28 GeNeSiDe wrote: I've also noticed that in my masters players I play, it is very seldom to receive a simple GG. I'd say about 10% of my victories end in this; most of the games the player will either just leave without saying anything, complain about balance, or be straight up twats and BM to hell before GTFO'ing. Also, in the games I lose, many of them end in offensive GG's, "get out" or "EZ". I've even had a couple situations where I've typed "gg wp" to receive "EZ noob gtfo" in reply...things like this serve to make me more likely to reply in kind the next game I win.
This is so true, master league is so bm. And they like to complain about balance. One terran had the balls to complain about metalopolis after we played a long macro game. Zerg has to be only SLIGHTLY favored, and whether low masters even has the ability to exploit that is another question entirely...
On March 21 2012 03:07 xmaine wrote: If you type in ggwp at the end, you feel less rage and get over it quickly. Dunno if it works for other people but it works for me.
Definetly, the "wp" for some reason makes it both much easier to get over + its a good friendly gesture to end the game. Your opponent also get a little "yay go me" out of it, and that's never a bad thing
Broke my keyboard once -_- Well, sometimes I get angry for a short period of time but then my brain starts working again and I´m thinking it´s just a game. ^^
On March 21 2012 00:40 wunsun wrote: Typically, I rage at myself, at how stupid I was, or how I didn't realize he was doing something even though the signs were there. Sometimes, cheeses make me rage at them.
Also, when my brother bothers me in a game makes me rage at him :S
Basically this. I would like to add that I despise my opponents whenever they play really badly and then they get lucky or I make A mistake and they win solely because of it >.>
I have only ever been mildly upset at worse--completely unfazed 99% of the time. That is until I tried that masters custom... I've never been so angry at a videogame in my entire life! I mean splitting zealots against banelings? Really? REALLY?!?!?!?!
I used to rage, blame the race balance, but since I stop to care about the game I could understand. If you play calm like you dont give a **** for it, you will be better at decision making and very other stuff. Try to GG every game, dont blame the other race for being easy to macro/micro etc. If you get angry all the time the game lose stop being fun.
I typically have a lot of patience and don't get mad, however I do have a breaking point. Like after I've lost my 5th game in a row to cheese I might just snap and kill an innocent bystander near my home.
I sometimes feel a little sad when I lose, but never really feel anger. Anger seems like such a strong emotion to be brought out in a friendly game of Starcraft.
I don't think I've ever once in my 12 year history of playing Starcraft, made an angry comment to my opponent at the end of a game. I've also never once complained about imbalance or unfairness to my opponent. It's not that I have held myself back. I've just never really felt an urge to.
I think I've always enjoyed the game because of this. It seems like it would be hard to be happy playing, if you get angry so easily. Maybe I should just be thankful.
Hm rage in starcraft 2, too sadly although it's not on a very high level. Of couse I hate people cheesing me and I rage on them but I always keep in mind that I could have won if I had played better and by always knowing this I also motivate myself in keep playing so that I won't lose such a game again. Although there are other games where I really rage because it's just unfair and/or imbalanced like FIFA or so. (multiple broken controllers^^)
On March 21 2012 04:38 lorkac wrote: I have only ever been mildly upset at worse--completely unfazed 99% of the time. That is until I tried that masters custom... I've never been so angry at a videogame in my entire life! I mean splitting zealots against banelings? Really? REALLY?!?!?!?!
Put them in seperate control groups before you click 'start' or whatever that button is. Easy as hell.
It's natural to get angry when you lose at something you really care about; or even when you think you are trying your best and someone beats you with a much simpler approach. Maybe if this is the first thing you've ever cared about it will come as a surprise to you but otherwise everyone should be aware of this. It's also compounded by the fact that there is noone else to blame but yourself in a 1v1 (despite people trying to blame the game itself) so that makes you feel even worse.
I mostly play team games and those games can really bring the rage out in me. I'm very cool and collected in real life, I don't know what in starcraft brings out the rage. It might bee fact that every other game is arranged team vs random team. I lose my cool when I see people with 1k wins still die to 10 pools, cannon rushes, dt rushed and collosus pushes. It's almost like the adverage player doesn't learn how to deal with certain unit comps and 1/2 don't commincate at all. After the game is a sure loss, we get some punk 14 year old kid start trolling how good he is. Ofcourse I'll check after to see if it was an arranged team vs random team, it usally is. I sometimes wonder why i even bother to play, I should just bite the bullet and only do 1v1's.
I rage every single game against all races except macro Terrans b/c I am macro Terran. I never gg unless they are also macro terrans b/c its incredibly hard to the 50th power to win any macro game as Terran. I am a mid-masters Terran btw.
Why should I gl hf and gg when I know I'm working harder than my Z and P opponents in a macro game? Even if I win these macro games, I still get insulted b/c T is still the poster child for imbalance and pple still believe T is an ez mode race like its steppes of war in 2010. I still get blamed b/c other Terrans cheese or 111, even tho I never do. Its fun reading upcoming patches to see my race is getting nerfed EVERY patch, and that the maps keep getting larger (daybreak for ex, which is poorly favored for T). I think I now understand what it feels like for a black or gay person to grow up in the 1960/1970s.
Half the pple who gl hf will rage at the end if they lose, so it loses its meaning when u know they are gonna bm u if they lose and try to act like their part of some country club if they win.
I don't give cheesy Terrans my respect b/c they are executing easier to perform strategies than it is to hold in TvT, like tank rushes, 111 quick med drop, or naked banshee harass on shattered temple b/c the map is freaking broken for it if u dont go 111 yourself. They are also the same douchy Terrans who 111/cheese Z and P, which these Z/P directly backlash at me when I play them.
I'm one of the few that will openly admit I rage too, which will probably get no respect either. Calmer pple will have no problem posting, but ragers will either lie to themselves or not post at all. I can't wait for the day when Z/P/T stop all cheesy T strategies and all the fake Terrans ragequit from the game, so everyone can truly see how tough it is.
Anyone who disagrees with me should try to get to masters as macro Terran, or see some of my replays If necessary. Inactive players, low league players, and many times even Z and P in masters, have no FREAKING idea what they are talking about in comparison to my level.
This poll is bogus it doesn't even give a positive option. To answer straight up.. sc2 brings joy to my heart.
The question itself is bogus too.. its not sc2 itself, its competetion and the nature of games being so intricate and that you can lose or messup so 'easily' but that's what makes it all the more rewarding when everything goes right. It will be hard to bare a loss or let down in any avenue of life when you put it in real work or thought. Is this question fair... Do you hate starcraft or do you despise starcraft... So loaded
Bah.. people need to realize its a game, if you're not having fun that's your fault. If you have fun raging then great.
Ps when I lose I either laugh or I just click find match
Yeah it's weird, SC tends to turn my mood from generally good to bad when I lose and with this disappointment I tend to say snarly things to people around me which is quite sad because it's normally not me and no other game has done this to me. But I still <3 SC
Weak poll. I get angry when I play and it's not at myself but I don't "rage uncontrollably".
There is nothing about this game that is fun. I stopped playing towards the end of season 6 and a few weeks ago I tried playing again and was 6 pooled. I held the 6 pool and then he roach ling all-inned me and during the engage built a Nydus in my base for reinforcements.... Wow was I angry, not at myself, but I sure didn't break anything or was unable to control myslf.
Then last night I tried playing again for the first time in three weeks and I played three games. The first game I thought I was getting 1-1-1ed but it was actually just 6 or 7 banshees with PDD to cover for them... Then the next game I was proxy hatched and because I haven't played in a few weeks I was slow to reacting to it and lost. Then I queued a game as Zerg and was proxy 2 gated. After holding the proxy 2 gate my opponent built a shitload of cannons, turtled and built like 15 void rays.
Playing this game is an absolutely miserable experience. I get mad when I play but it's not at myself. I don't even know if I get mad at my opponents, it's just how terribly designed this game is.
I do get angry when I lose because I put a lot of effort and thought into what I am doing. It is always a blow when you realize that it didn't work out. I am usually not angry at anyone though, I am rather disappointed in myself because losses usually amount to something small like bad scouting. Does that mean I don't say something in "rage" to my opponent? No, not necessarily. I usually just GG and try to think about what I did wrong but sometimes I just say something irrational like "So lucky" but I would never lash out and call someone a nigger or faggot or wish someone's mother would die of cancer. It's quite sad to see how many people do that to me though when I'm laddering.
As of late I have had the pleasure to meet some people on ladder who actually agreed to look through the replay so we both looked at it and told each other things from our perspective and where we think the game was decided. That's a really cool way of dealing with a win/loss and adding meaning to it. Meaning and analysis which inherently makes both of the involved parties better. If only all games would pan out like this.
I get angry at myself generally for playing poorly. I get angry at my opponent when I feel like I played my very best and did everything right while my opponent was seemingly afk in his base 99% of the game. This is generally my lack of experience with the game that leads to my death, but that doesn't stop me from reacting negatively towards them initially.
I get angry sometimes, but I remind myself of how my friend who rages in a flash mmorpg (realm of the mad god), and I decided to not stoop as low as he does. There's almost no use in raging, anyway, because I'm a mere diamond player and it's not like I just lost anything. I only rage when it's protoss, though, because they're just so frustrating to play against sometimes.
I'm still surprised at the absurd number of people calling others racial slurs and horrible names; it's almost as bad as my classmates selling air jordans.
On March 21 2012 07:04 CuSToM wrote: Weak poll. I get angry when I play and it's not at myself but I don't "rage uncontrollably".
There is nothing about this game that is fun. I stopped playing towards the end of season 6 and a few weeks ago I tried playing again and was 6 pooled. I held the 6 pool and then he roach ling all-inned me and during the engage built a Nydus in my base for reinforcements.... Wow was I angry, not at myself, but I sure didn't break anything or was unable to control myslf.
Then last night I tried playing again for the first time in three weeks and I played three games. The first game I thought I was getting 1-1-1ed but it was actually just 6 or 7 banshees with PDD to cover for them... Then the next game I was proxy hatched and because I haven't played in a few weeks I was slow to reacting to it and lost. Then I queued a game as Zerg and was proxy 2 gated. After holding the proxy 2 gate my opponent built a shitload of cannons, turtled and built like 15 void rays.
Playing this game is an absolutely miserable experience. I get mad when I play but it's not at myself. I don't even know if I get mad at my opponents, it's just how terribly designed this game is.
You're getting angry because you lost a bunch of games after being rusty; then you blame it on design flaws. Does not compute.
I am a mid-master's protoss with a winning record, and pretty much have been for the last few seasons. I don't really play that much (I just got the solo protoss 500 achievement last season), but when I do I try to enjoy myself. Always try to start off games by being nice, and don't be a dick to people when I win. When I lose, I leave by saying gg after every game.
Occasionally I'll get frustrated when I think that I played well but lose anyway, but more often than not I know exactly why I lost and hence there is no reason to get angry. I am a engineering student, I don't really have that much time to dedicate to the game, so I just attribute my losses to the that fact and be done with it.
On March 21 2012 05:54 Sinensis wrote: SC2 makes me sigh a lot. I usually don't get angry unless the game lags or does something stupid I have no control over.
Same. SC just makes me sigh more than anything. If a friend is being an annoying player on purpose then I get irritated with him over Skype, but no real rage. I don't really rage out at Video Games anymore like I used to, but that was due to a deeper psychological issue that I resolved.
I'm a silver so I get mad over playing the idiots at my level who do really dumb things and still manage a win. I suppose playing people who were better than me, and stomped me would make me angry as well. As long as the person plays a legit no bs game I will gladly GG.
When I lose I just get really angry at my incompetence and lack of talent lol........Somehow losing in Starcraft 2 reminds me of my other failures in life and I just get uncontrollably mad.
Probably the biggest issue with Starcraft 2 for me is that unlike any of the sports I play Starcraft 2 makes you angry but you have no real way of venting it. Playing tennis I usually am able to work out the anger of losing a match through the act of playing and hitting the ball harder but in Starcraft 2 the anger just usually stays bottled up. Because of this the only real way to really take out my anger is to hit something or just get in a real depressed state. Still, nothing feels better in SC2 than getting on a winning streak.
I might get angry but I never let it happen to the other player that I'm playing, I always gl hf and gg, sometimes even wp if I feel they did play really good. I don't understand people who doesn't gl hf and then when they lose they bm u like crazy -_-
Only thing that really gets me mad is when i know i should have done better.
For example I just lost a 35 minute TvZ on Shaks. The game was frustration station for me; I lost my first 4 helions getting greedy on a runby, however recovered by killing a ton of drones with a 8rine drop while my main push killed his third. However he ended up getting about 15 infestors out, and just chainfungal/lingballing me while taking 2 extra bases. It seemed like no matter how much I split he just had infinity fungals and in the end, after an epic war involving 2 ultra/BL techswitches, i crumbled under the might of his army, cussed him out and said he was lucky and left.
After I calmed down I just felt stupid for not getting ghosts, but at the time I had to get my anger out otherwise it would affect my next game.
I used to get very very mad.. but now I realize that its just a game and need to relax so it has no effect anymore.. of course I will say "damn" or something then just search again and play so all good.
I usually yell "fuck" or "damn it" in my room, not super loud, but definitely audible, when I lose in a situation I felt I shouldn't lose, maybe due to a bad engagement or me having terrible multitasking that was exploited for a brief period.
I never, ever tell the other person they are awful or that their race is broken. At worst, I say something like "damn it, I never know how to beat Protoss lategame, even if I go into it with a massive advantage" or "well I more so lost this than you won it." And that's only when I let it really get to me.
On March 21 2012 05:59 Pyre wrote: I mostly play team games and those games can really bring the rage out in me. I'm very cool and collected in real life, I don't know what in starcraft brings out the rage. It might bee fact that every other game is arranged team vs random team. I lose my cool when I see people with 1k wins still die to 10 pools, cannon rushes, dt rushed and collosus pushes. It's almost like the adverage player doesn't learn how to deal with certain unit comps and 1/2 don't commincate at all. After the game is a sure loss, we get some punk 14 year old kid start trolling how good he is. Ofcourse I'll check after to see if it was an arranged team vs random team, it usally is. I sometimes wonder why i even bother to play, I should just bite the bullet and only do 1v1's.
I moved into team games for the fun, until what you described happened. The shit-flinging, got me really pissed. Then I moved back to 1v1.
On March 23 2012 01:44 FabledIntegral wrote: I usually yell "fuck" or "damn it" in my room, not super loud, but definitely audible, when I lose in a situation I felt I shouldn't lose, maybe due to a bad engagement or me having terrible multitasking that was exploited for a brief period.
I never, ever tell the other person they are awful or that their race is broken. At worst, I say something like "damn it, I never know how to beat Protoss lategame, even if I go into it with a massive advantage" or "well I more so lost this than you won it." And that's only when I let it really get to me.
I used to just do that, I guess living with a girl who goes to sleep for work at 11pm means I can't really do such things anymore.
Imagine I just held off a 4gate warp prism rush, and walked my huge bio ball across the map to finish the deed. As I do it, the screen starts pixellating and my game crashes. I threw a bottle of water at the wall, missed, and it went out the window and hit a car...which just happened to be mine, parked on the road....true story, talk about bad luck!!
I feel like starcraft is the same as any other multiplayer game, you just rage when you it feels like you got fucked. It's like playing cod and some fag just runs up behind you and knifes you using a broken class like ninja/assassin/??? whatever and you just die. It's so easy to lose to a shittier player in starcraft, and all of your losses feel like that. So you fucking rage.
I never got really angry when playing StarCraft, even when I got demoted to Platinum. So I never understood people who would rage uncontrollably - But the last days, when I finally had the time to play many games again, went like this
...and I started raging so much, I never experienced it before. I started to punch my desk, kick stuff, etc. I'm pretty shocked at my overreaction to what is just a game. But that losing streak totally got me. So yes, StarCraft did make me rage.
Losses feel really bad in Starcraft 2. It doesn't matter if it was a build order loss, you way outplayed your opponent and made a mistake, you got outplayed yourself, or if it was a blatant balance issue, all types of losses feel horrible in sc2. I don't know how people suppress feeling angry or sad when they go on losing streaks, that is a more impressive skill than being incredibly good at the game imo.
I used to get angry and rage really hard, but I managed to overcome that issue. My moments of rage were expensive, gaming equipment isn't that cheap. Also, it's boring and time-consuming to fix smashed walls. Not to mention the pain you suffer from hitting a wall with all of your strength.
Now I get really disappointed in myself instead, and at times it borderlines to destructive behavior. (I feel like causing myself physical pain as punishment for playing badly)
Come to think of it, I did hit myself as hard as I possibly could a few times.
I suppose that's the next wall to break in my path toward inner peace and more skill.
I'll get mad when I know I've made a mistake that cost me the game, like a bad decision to micro a certain way during a fight that costs a lot of my units and, thus, the game. I'll just get mad at myself, though not necessarily internally, but I don't break things or hit people lol
if you get angry or rage, you're not learning anything. if you're not learning anything, you'll always be at the same level. always be learning, which directly means you need to learn to not get angry.
that being said, i do often get disappointed in games that i thought i was gonna win; like someone said first page, i have let out more than my fair share of harsh siiiiiiighhhs. but then i can just watch the replay and figure it out as opposed to assuming i'm just bad.
I'm a no effect kinda guy. Don't get mad at all when I play. I mean sometimes I will know I made a mistake and it annoys me, but that happens to everyone. For the most part though I don't get mad at all, unless some guy BM's me when I thought I played well and/or I saw mistakes that they made that pretty much cost them the game. Then I start BMing them back, but still I'm normally laughing while I do it because of he stupid they sound.
Well I get angry and irritated when I lose in Sc2 but when I play other games like Battlefield 3 I rage so much I slam my mouse on the table like 10 times or punch my keyboard so keys gets scattered all around the room. I think I should stop playing BF3, that game makes me so frustrated it's crazy.
Edit: I forgot something, Everytime I die, I scream some bad words while I do these stuff.
I get super angry every ZvZ. I can't/won't micro. But 90% of games revolve around the micro wars that occur between 5:00-7:00 with ling/baneling and I always come out behind. It's stupid that there are phases in the game so early that revolve entirely around unit control and almost not at all about macro, strategy or tech choices.
I'm playing for imaginary points in a game that has no bearing on my life outside of providing entertainment. I go into every game with the mindset that I'm going to win but I don't see how being angry or frustrated accomplishes anything in my quest for imaginary points.
No effect. I used to get mad at BM'rs but lately I just ignore them. I talk if my opponent is being nice and don't have a problem striking a conversation. If I lose, I just ggwp and leave.
I got angry once - and left without GGing. Seriously, that's the entire extent of my anger and if I ever feel frustrated, I just remind myself of what is important - and for me who is playing 100% for fun - winning isn't everything. I'll save my anger for something that deserves it.
I think if I ever lost my cool playing SCII and broke something, I would uninstall it and put it on the shelf and relegate myself to a spectator. That's not what I want to become.
No to little effect. .. now, I used to get pretty angry at ladder and frustrated. But i've learnt that a lose does not impact my skill and that the ladder system does not truely represent somebody's skill, just a general guideline. A diamond player can beat a master player and one may not know the difference until the game ends. It works like that for a good amount of leagues imo, and don't let loses bring you down because it's just a bad day or game.
I have never raged in sc2 but i haven't entered the ladders yet either. Every game I've played has caused me to rage, but those were all fps which can be pretty random at times.
I used to get mad when I would lose to stupid builds but now I don't really take the game too seriously and just play with friends or try out crazy builds
I flip a table when I lose games that I know I should have won. (When I do something stupid like looking away for 2 seconds, lagging for half a second, and then losing all my things to Banelings. T_T)
But other than that, I usually just gg and replay analyze after. When I feel the other person played well, I tell them and stuff :D
However, I go monkey poop when someone offensive ggs me. Then I proceed to be stupid and never leave. It annoys me too much.
I sometimes get frustrated, it comes with being competitive in something. The worst I'll usually do is not gg at the end of the game when I get frustrated, and I feel kind of bad when I do it. When I'm on an extreme losing streak I might type something in game, but it's never directed at my opponent, and more at my frustration at what's going on in the game, and I feel really shitty whenever I've calmed down and realized that I've done this.
I haven't really gotten mad at myself for losing, the only time is because I don't scout right. Most of the rest of my rage goes to the other player for the dumb builds that they do, because I play like 10 games and 4/5 are cheese. :/
I don't usually, but if lose to something silly (like not scouting his spire or move command my army instead of a-move) then I'll just slam my hand on the table, and allow the pain to remind me not to make the same mistake again.
I dont think I've been mad enough to smash anything to bits, I get mad from time to time but it subsides so quickly its irrelevant.
I have this mantra now where I basically tell myself I'm not as good as I think I am. The (one atleast) reason people get so mad is because they think they are better than they really are, Dunning Kruger or whatever effect.
For me it does bring somewhat anger on myself on rare occasions, I've had mad problems with raging, but I started realizing it wasn't as much the game as it was allot of other things that made me mad and sc2 just set it off. So to sum up, I only rage if something outside the game is bothering me aswell - and if I rage, it's usually on myself.
My rage slowly climbs as I play more ladders and games it seems. At first I'm fine and look at replays and analyze why I lost and try to improve. Then as a start losing more, to all ins, getting outmacroed, is when the rage starts coming out.
I really REALLY don't think most people rage at themselves being inferior, im quite sure almost all those votes should go into uncontrollable rage because you are actually raging at some mechanic or imbalance.
Depends on what I lose to. For example a few days ago a Zerg Bangling Bust's me and then makes Mutalisks and I hate Mutalisks so I said "screw this" and all in'd him and left.
I rage uncontrollably while playing SC2. It's kinda strange, i'm the calmest most collected person ever while playing other games competitively online. But then I get on that ladder, my god do the obscenities and insults spew out of me, and i'm not proud of it.
I've never had peripheral damaging rage but sometimes I'll get angry at myself for losing because I know the mistakes I made. I guess sometimes losing to some poorly executed all-in, while the opponent BMs me makes me pretty angry but I'll still always gg, I figure the opponent is probably either 13 years old and/or lonely and they probably get pleasure from me rage-quitting so its better to deny them that.
I guess I probably could get to the point of destructive anger but I always stop playing way before that point because I stop enjoying it and I know I'm tilting.
What pisses me off the most, is when I do a stupid mistake, or when I lose a game I was conviced I was winning. I'm very adamant about saying gg though. I dont think I've ever rage quit.
Losing in Sc2 actually makes me happier. I do not experience rage from losing, but if I get d/ced or have an equipment failure I can become very angry.
On March 23 2012 02:42 megapants wrote: if you get angry or rage, you're not learning anything. if you're not learning anything, you'll always be at the same level. always be learning, which directly means you need to learn to not get angry.
that being said, i do often get disappointed in games that i thought i was gonna win; like someone said first page, i have let out more than my fair share of harsh siiiiiiighhhs. but then i can just watch the replay and figure it out as opposed to assuming i'm just bad.
that doesnt make any sense at all. i started sc2 in silver and i am now midmaster. i also always raged. raging does not mean, that you are not fixing your mistakes.
Of course it does, if you don't feel anger or joy what's the point? BUT back in the days when playing BW i used to get a lot of rage and got angry so i started to control it (it was really hard i have to admit). I learned to think of it as either a good game made by my opponent or that it was only my mistake and not just random thing like - map or OP unit etc.... and i started to learn from it and by the time passes by you will be more calm and focused in the next games and that will get more wins.
I don't usually feel angry when I play sc2, but I will if I'm on a losing streak and meets someone that bms after winning, especially if I lost to cheese. Like, I played some games in the last few weeks and I raged when they cheesed me and say 'EZ' or just throw an offensive gg at me.
I don't know if its just me but I get really angry at myself if I lose to cheese, especially after scouting it and not responding to it in time.
On March 23 2012 22:30 Thug[ro] wrote: Of course it does, if you don't feel anger or joy what's the point? BUT back in the days when playing BW i used to get a lot of rage and got angry so i started to control it (it was really hard i have to admit). I learned to think of it as either a good game made by my opponent or that it was only my mistake and not just random thing like - map or OP unit etc.... and i started to learn from it and by the time passes by you will be more calm and focused in the next games and that will get more wins.
The thing with me is, I don't really feel joy when winning but I feel immense anger when losing. I guess i'm kind of like Idra that way.
On March 23 2012 22:30 Thug[ro] wrote: Of course it does, if you don't feel anger or joy what's the point? BUT back in the days when playing BW i used to get a lot of rage and got angry so i started to control it (it was really hard i have to admit). I learned to think of it as either a good game made by my opponent or that it was only my mistake and not just random thing like - map or OP unit etc.... and i started to learn from it and by the time passes by you will be more calm and focused in the next games and that will get more wins.
The thing with me is, I don't really feel joy when winning but I feel immense anger when losing. I guess i'm kind of like Idra that way.
I would much rather be the other way around - joy when winning, nothing when losing. Otherwise, for me, what is the point?
Normal ladder games rarely make me rage, though i do get angry at times, i generally keep it to myself. What really does frustrate me tho is when im playing a monobattle with a friend, and we always go random race and unit because thats how it should be, and we end up with really silly units, which is great, but someone on the other team, who has like, stalkers or something, decides to cannon rush.
I don't understand this, surely you play monobattles to have some funny fights with interesting unit mixtures and generally have a laugh... not to just cannon rush. It's not like winning is important, so why force the game to be so short and unentertaining for everyone?
I rage a lot in Starcraft 2 because i lose more than a won T_T, that just applies on 1v1 ladder, in team games (which i play more) i dont mind loosing because i am not alone lol.
On March 23 2012 22:40 NerfrA wrote: SCII = Games Games = Play for "FUN"
so... SCII = Play for "FUN"
This logic is flawed and wrong. A lot of people(including myself) play SC2 in a competitive manner where we strive to improve and get better at the game and thus we take it seriously. When you lose in something you take seriously it's easy to direct a lot of anger to others or even yourself.
I'm not entirely sure what I get when I play SC2. I have a decent winrate when I play random, and when I lose, it's always my own fault. I messed up something in the early-game, I forgot to chrono, build a pylon, was late on my gas. When I lose it's usually early.
only thing that ever made me rage was during the last two weeks or so of my playing as terran only in Platinum league. Whenever I'd meet a protoss I'd try to end the game as soon as possible, because I knew that I had no chance at defeating a macroing toss. I'd over-produce vikings, under-produce them, I'd not get Ghost tech in time for HT's and so forth. Those are the only instances I've been mad at the game or anyone else. I never get pissed of for getting cheesed.
Most of the time I'm annoyed, not angry. Annoyed at the mistakes I made, because they're almost always beginner's mistakes.
EDIT Actually, I do get angry at times, but that's only when I get bm'd. If I get cheesed and my opponent bm's me, then I'll probably do everything I can to drag out the game, if I know I've lost. Then I close the game and have him wait another 60 seconds. Sure it's bm, but I personally find it very satisfying.
On March 23 2012 22:40 NerfrA wrote: SCII = Games Games = Play for "FUN"
so... SCII = Play for "FUN"
This logic is flawed and wrong. A lot of people(including myself) play SC2 in a competitive manner where we strive to improve and get better at the game and thus we take it seriously. When you lose in something you take seriously it's easy to direct a lot of anger to others or even yourself.
QFT
Having a competitive spirit is fun in and of itself!
this poll kinda made me laugh I cry a river after every loss
tbh i don't get very angry anymore now that i'm actually trying to become really good because if i lose a game to some stupid cheese i just queue another ladder game and move on if i lose a really good game i should have won i sometimes get a little mad at myself because i threw away an advantage
the worst for me is when i think i'm really far ahead and then lose because of a hidden expo or something this pisses me off -.- when that happens i might leave without gg sometimes
I'm constantly banned for some stupid shit and start to think I'm on a list. I just can't say "Nice try" after a cheese fails and must add "retard/fag/piece of shit". It isn't often, about 1 in 50 games, but I always get banned immediatelly. Never happened in any game before and I play multiplayer games like 15 years... I think this treatment is too harsh, I never reported anyone since I firmly believe that this is part of the game.
I used to rage but I changed mindset. I force myself to gg.
As Zerg I have most problems with collossii deathballs since they just feel so unfair. My anger is always directed at blizzard, the players just use the tools given to them..
Yeah sometimes I can slap myself for getting supplyblocked and losing the game.
I just take a deep breath and realize it's not only a game, but a game you should play competitively if you enjoy learning. Make sure the race you play has the type of style you like to use.
I don't really get angry... I get incredibly disappoint in myself and my mood just turns.. This only lasts about 4 mins tho. Then it feels like encouraged to try again and improve.
Any game that... when I feel i'm playing perfectly... disrupts the flow of the game, my personal playstyle, or just general playing tactics at that moment, i'll rage....
eg: dying 10 times in a row to a rad-scorpion in Fallout 3.... getting 5-manned ganked in LoL with no team help.... noob-tubed when you spawn on CoD... etc.etc
However... there's also the element of arguments... and I tend to be the one persuading in the debate, which usually leads to an argument because the person(s) i'm trying to convince just won't accept the pure logic and it irritates me quickly.