A very nice distribution of teams there. I'm hoping a few more ST players make it through. Also the Prime revolution narrative would be greatly enhanced if Bbongbbong and Marine King had a few more Prime players in Code S.
If Nani can get his nerves under control...or whatever it was that prevented him from performing well before...then he should at least be able to stick around in Code S or re-qualify for it consistently. He's a beast for sure...
Does anyone think that this might possibly be the most beastly Code S yet? I thought last season was pushing it, but this is insanity. Not one of the players listed is weak or undeserving of their spot (and I HATE Gumiho, but he deserves to be there)
Considering the weakest players are going to be those coming through the up-and-downs, which means the weakest people in Code S so far are Squirtle and BboongBboong (you know, those two dude who get all-kills in GSTL) , I'd say this season is going to be out of this world.
Naniwa should rather be kicked out of battle.net then be invited to big tournaments. Not only for his infamous Nestea game, but for his behaviour in German EPS and with MYM, too.
Nvm, guess he'll be beaten out of GSL soon enough... at least I am gonna root for every single player that he plays against, no matter who it is, as nani is the person with the biggest lack of sportsmanship-attitude in the industry, period.
On March 13 2012 06:29 Olinim wrote: [quote] Can't tell if serious...
Lets name some players who beat Mvp and Nestea in box series multiple times! See if you can name 5
Let's name some players who have a worse record in GSL than Naniwa.
Before you say that's irrelevant, it has alot more to do with whether he is top 5 or not than how many times he beat Nestea.(nothing, btw)
Every player has a low point, MC, Mvp, DRG, essentially ALL champions were once Code A or Code B, so your point is moot.
But Naniwa isn't a champion and has never had a high point comparable to Mvp, MC or DRG. He's a guy who did well in one tournament, MLG Providence, where he had a ridiculous seed and didn't actually win. Aside from that he's just been consistently good for a foreigner but mediocre overall with some wins over good players but a lot more losses to good players and plenty of losses to weaker players at tournaments where he should have done better.
True hes not a champion, but this code S seed is his chance to breakout and become that champion. He definitely has the ability to beat anyone, but also lose to lower players. That being said its entirely possible for him to do well and maybe even win. Nani first GSL foreigner champion? gogo Nani
Following your logic we could basically make the same argument for any one in Code S/A/B at the moment. ANY ONE.
Not really, because Naniwa has beaten enough top tier players enough times to separate himself from the pack.
You could say that for any Code A/B korean who does that. Besides, MLG providence was a while ago. Has naniwa won anything recently? I think not
He just beat nestea and leenock in MLG winter arena. Instead of just saying "any Code A/B korean" does it, how about you name some? Name some Code A/B koreans who have series wins vs Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, DRG. I doubt you can, nice try though.
Still his abysmal gsl record stands. You have should understand the difference between playing a MLG or GSL booth.
Lets name some players who beat Mvp and Nestea in box series multiple times! See if you can name 5
Let's name some players who have a worse record in GSL than Naniwa.
Before you say that's irrelevant, it has alot more to do with whether he is top 5 or not than how many times he beat Nestea.(nothing, btw)
Every player has a low point, MC, Mvp, DRG, essentially ALL champions were once Code A or Code B, so your point is moot.
But Naniwa isn't a champion and has never had a high point comparable to Mvp, MC or DRG. He's a guy who did well in one tournament, MLG Providence, where he had a ridiculous seed and didn't actually win. Aside from that he's just been consistently good for a foreigner but mediocre overall with some wins over good players but a lot more losses to good players and plenty of losses to weaker players at tournaments where he should have done better.
True hes not a champion, but this code S seed is his chance to breakout and become that champion. He definitely has the ability to beat anyone, but also lose to lower players. That being said its entirely possible for him to do well and maybe even win. Nani first GSL foreigner champion? gogo Nani
Following your logic we could basically make the same argument for any one in Code S/A/B at the moment. ANY ONE.
Not really, because Naniwa has beaten enough top tier players enough times to separate himself from the pack.
You could say that for any Code A/B korean who does that. Besides, MLG providence was a while ago. Has naniwa won anything recently? I think not
He just beat nestea and leenock in MLG winter arena. Instead of just saying "any Code A/B korean" does it, how about you name some? Name some Code A/B koreans who have series wins vs Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, DRG. I doubt you can, nice try though.
Still his abysmal gsl record stands. You have should understand the difference between playing a MLG or GSL booth.
So if he does well in this GSL your mind will be blown? Cause your logic seems to have a hole in it.
On March 13 2012 17:01 zecherShock wrote: Naniwa should rather be kicked out of battle.net then be invited to big tournaments. Not only for his infamous Nestea game, but for his behaviour in German EPS and with MYM, too.
Nvm, guess he'll be beaten out of GSL soon enough... at least I am gonna root for every single player that he plays against, no matter who it is, as nani is the person with the biggest lack of sportsmanship-attitude in the industry, period.
The EPS thing happened.. like one and a half year ago? wow...
His nestea game wasn't even a game. It was pointless. He wouldn't even have gotten ladder points had he won. I don't understand why they put a game which is even less significant than a ladder game in a tournament.. And he still apologized for it, and then they invented a new retroactive rule on the spot with a completely arbitrary definition that kicked him out.
On March 13 2012 17:01 zecherShock wrote: Naniwa should rather be kicked out of battle.net then be invited to big tournaments. Not only for his infamous Nestea game, but for his behaviour in German EPS and with MYM, too.
Nvm, guess he'll be beaten out of GSL soon enough... at least I am gonna root for every single player that he plays against, no matter who it is, as nani is the person with the biggest lack of sportsmanship-attitude in the industry, period.
The EPS thing happened.. like one and a half year ago? wow...
His nestea game wasn't even a game. It was pointless. He wouldn't even have gotten ladder points had he won. I don't understand why they put a game which is even less significant than a ladder game in a tournament.. And he still apologized for it, and then they invented a new retroactive rule on the spot with a completely arbitrary definition that kicked him out.
I don't think you understand the definition of the word arbitrary.
This is awesome, I'm really happy for Naniwa. I hope he'll do well. And there's no question really that Polt deserves Code S. Looking forward to Code S more than ever now!!! :D
On March 13 2012 17:01 zecherShock wrote: Naniwa should rather be kicked out of battle.net then be invited to big tournaments. Not only for his infamous Nestea game, but for his behaviour in German EPS and with MYM, too.
Nvm, guess he'll be beaten out of GSL soon enough... at least I am gonna root for every single player that he plays against, no matter who it is, as nani is the person with the biggest lack of sportsmanship-attitude in the industry, period.
The EPS thing happened.. like one and a half year ago? wow...
His nestea game wasn't even a game. It was pointless. He wouldn't even have gotten ladder points had he won. I don't understand why they put a game which is even less significant than a ladder game in a tournament.. And he still apologized for it, and then they invented a new retroactive rule on the spot with a completely arbitrary definition that kicked him out.
I don't think you understand the definition of the word arbitrary.
On March 13 2012 17:01 zecherShock wrote: Naniwa should rather be kicked out of battle.net then be invited to big tournaments. Not only for his infamous Nestea game, but for his behaviour in German EPS and with MYM, too.
Nvm, guess he'll be beaten out of GSL soon enough... at least I am gonna root for every single player that he plays against, no matter who it is, as nani is the person with the biggest lack of sportsmanship-attitude in the industry, period.
The EPS thing happened.. like one and a half year ago? wow...
His nestea game wasn't even a game. It was pointless. He wouldn't even have gotten ladder points had he won. I don't understand why they put a game which is even less significant than a ladder game in a tournament.. And he still apologized for it, and then they invented a new retroactive rule on the spot with a completely arbitrary definition that kicked him out.
I don't think you understand the definition of the word arbitrary.
Care to elaborate?
It means to do something without reason. The definition of their 'new rule' (although it wasn't knew, it was a vague existing rule) was anything but arbitrary seen as they had the specific purpose of taking away Naniwa's Code S seed, and neither was that in itself arbitrary because he probe rushed. The probe rush was something that 40% of TL on the polls thought warranted the removal of his Code S so I would imagine it was even higher in Korea amongst the other teams and GOM.
Arbitrary would have been banning Nestea from Code S for it and seeding you or I into Code S next season.