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On March 12 2012 22:13 branflakes14 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 22:08 Tofugrinder wrote:On March 12 2012 19:59 Zephirdd wrote:
tbh we are 2012. It amuses me that the n-word problem still exists at this point in time. if nobody would use that word no problem would exist. The reason why nobody should use that word won't change The problem wouldn't exist if people would stop giving the word power, too. The only way you're going to get people to stop saying it is by forcing them to do it, and I personally was under the impression that Fascism ended in 1945.
Words themselves don't have power. It's not like the more something is used, the more powerful it becomes. In fact I'd say it's quite opposite.
The fact that my friends (the dark ones) have pretty much come to ignore whenever someone drops the n bomb suggests to me that its overuse has rendered it uninteresting and not really noteworthy anymore.
Of course it's always fun to get a rise out people to act like you are really furious.
In any case the only real power words have come with the intent behind it. If you see somebody that can be discriminated in ANY way there will be a word that will categorize them so that when you call them that word, hopefully they will feel singled-out, discriminated or hurt.
So in my opinion, there are no bad words. The only bad words are the ones that are too broad and easily misinterpreted, like communist or terrorist which are made-up to categorize something then widely used in improper manner
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On March 12 2012 15:40 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 15:23 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:On March 12 2012 14:01 Xenocryst wrote:
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable Unless you're black. We live in a society of double standards, its how America runs. Unfortunately, orb is not black, so he does not have free reign to say nigger whenever he wants to. That's not a double standard. White people can say cracker and black people can say nigger and not be racist. It would be a double standard if white people could say both words and blacks could not, that would be a double standard. It is a double standard, you're delusional. If the N word is so offensive that it brings up negative emotions about slavery etc. then why would black people use it among themselves? I'm not a slave owner, I'm not an advocate of slavery, so what difference should it make?
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I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it.
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On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it.
what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject
IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go
IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did
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On March 13 2012 09:01 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it. what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did
he did stop, yes. but telling us "faggot" and "retard" is somehow less worse than "nigger" is highly arbitrary. all are equally bad. matter of fact is EG can and should be more inclined to drop a new affiliation than a high profile player who they already heavily invested in. pecking order and ROI are only natural considerations when it comes to damage control. everything else than dropping orb would have been a terrible business decision.
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On March 13 2012 09:14 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:01 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it. what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did he did stop, yes. but telling us "faggot" and "retard" is somehow less worse than "nigger" is highly arbitrary. all are equally bad. matter of fact is EG can and should be more inclined to drop a new affiliation than a high profile player who they already heavily invested in. pecking order and ROI are only natural considerations when it comes to damage control. everything else than dropping orb would have been a terrible business decision.
i understand that some people dont get it for some reason, but at least in america and canada Nigger is considered a far more offensive word then any other, you simply need to accept this as fact and move on
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On March 13 2012 09:20 ntvarify wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:18 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 09:14 rotegirte wrote:On March 13 2012 09:01 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it. what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did he did stop, yes. but telling us "faggot" and "retard" is somehow less worse than "nigger" is highly arbitrary. all are equally bad. matter of fact is EG can and should be more inclined to drop a new affiliation than a high profile player who they already heavily invested in. pecking order and ROI are only natural considerations when it comes to damage control. everything else than dropping orb would have been a terrible business decision. i understand that some people dont get it for some reason, but at least in america and canada Nigger is considered a far more offensive word then any other, you simply need to accept this as fact and move on That's simply not true. Where I live saying f***** is ten times more offensive then n*****.
in general its the other way around by a large margirin
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On March 13 2012 09:20 ntvarify wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:18 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 09:14 rotegirte wrote:On March 13 2012 09:01 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it. what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did he did stop, yes. but telling us "faggot" and "retard" is somehow less worse than "nigger" is highly arbitrary. all are equally bad. matter of fact is EG can and should be more inclined to drop a new affiliation than a high profile player who they already heavily invested in. pecking order and ROI are only natural considerations when it comes to damage control. everything else than dropping orb would have been a terrible business decision. i understand that some people dont get it for some reason, but at least in america and canada Nigger is considered a far more offensive word then any other, you simply need to accept this as fact and move on That's simply not true. Where I live saying f***** is ten times more offensive then n*****.
Not where I come from...
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On March 12 2012 15:23 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 14:01 Xenocryst wrote:
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable Unless you're black. We live in a society of double standards, its how America runs. Unfortunately, orb is not black, so he does not have free reign to say nigger whenever he wants to.
The black people that are doing that are a part of the problem as well and not helping the situation. It's not nearly as offensive because it insults THEM. Also when black people say cracker.... not really that offensive my ancestors exploited yours and got really rich? doesnt sound like an insult to me THEY went through the pain so they have more of a right to address then we do.
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On March 13 2012 09:20 ntvarify wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:18 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 09:14 rotegirte wrote:On March 13 2012 09:01 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it. what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did he did stop, yes. but telling us "faggot" and "retard" is somehow less worse than "nigger" is highly arbitrary. all are equally bad. matter of fact is EG can and should be more inclined to drop a new affiliation than a high profile player who they already heavily invested in. pecking order and ROI are only natural considerations when it comes to damage control. everything else than dropping orb would have been a terrible business decision. i understand that some people dont get it for some reason, but at least in america and canada Nigger is considered a far more offensive word then any other, you simply need to accept this as fact and move on That's simply not true. Where I live saying f***** is ten times more offensive then n*****.
Where do you live? because almost everywhere else that is not the case at all
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Be like PANDA !! YEAH
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doubt idra cared about orb's comment, he should say something about this
but then again idra probably hates orb lol, I remember back in the beta days of the HDH they were set to have a match together and had some prematch beef
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On March 12 2012 15:23 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 14:01 Xenocryst wrote:
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable Unless you're black. We live in a society of double standards, its how America runs. Unfortunately, orb is not black, so he does not have free reign to say nigger whenever he wants to.
to clarify and to be fair, ive never heard a black person say the word "nigger". a black guy saying "what up my nigger" or "dats my nigger" would be pretty silly. black ppl say "nigga" which is, beleive it or not, a different word from "nigger".
BUT, they derive and originate from the same word. its kinda complicated, but neither word should be said because only a black guy can say "nigga" and a white guy cant unless that white guy is more black then white. thats how it works here anyway, cant vouch for the more northern states. its pretty lol and stupid imo.
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I know this is a bit late but man, seeing the edit where you continue to insist that it wasn't you in the first image just completely kills your apology. Its a slap in the face to the community, some of whom are still your fans after all this. We can tell and know it was you, are you seriously still going to stick with that story? You're an embarrassment as a prominent member of the community when you blindly cling to the lie that helped get you in this mess.
Your insincere apology and continued inability to admit to your obvious guilt is pathetic. It won't hurt your image at all (probably will improve it), so why don't you just grow up and own up already?
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On March 13 2012 21:05 The_DarkAngelz wrote:Be like PANDA !! YEAH
OMG, I almost fell out of my chair from laughing. Thank you for this post, it made my day.
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On March 13 2012 09:20 ntvarify wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 09:18 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 09:14 rotegirte wrote:On March 13 2012 09:01 Forikorder wrote:On March 13 2012 08:56 SgValor wrote:
I fully understand the "N" word is a terrible thing to say, especially as a figure of the SC2 Community, but I've just got to ask why he is getting in so much trouble and people having zero tolerance for it when one of the frontmen of EG, EGidra has been known to BM quite a lot. He may not use the N word but has said several inappropriate things not only when streaming, but also at major tournaments. I feel like the decision here was out of hand and that if we are to hold orb to this kind of standard, why are other big names getting away with it. I am not saying this to talk trash on Idra, just merely stating the fact that he is vulgar in games and has been far more than I have seen orb and has never been riticuled and was not released for any of it. what an interesting and engaging point this simply has not been brought up at all thank you for the fresh new angle to view this subject IdrA has not said anything near as bad as orb did and when he does say something almost kinda somewhat close as bad as what orb saids he gets a personal lecture from Alex and has since stopped if he had continued he would ahve been let go IdrA never said anything undeserving of second chances, Orb did he did stop, yes. but telling us "faggot" and "retard" is somehow less worse than "nigger" is highly arbitrary. all are equally bad. matter of fact is EG can and should be more inclined to drop a new affiliation than a high profile player who they already heavily invested in. pecking order and ROI are only natural considerations when it comes to damage control. everything else than dropping orb would have been a terrible business decision. i understand that some people dont get it for some reason, but at least in america and canada Nigger is considered a far more offensive word then any other, you simply need to accept this as fact and move on That's simply not true. Where I live saying f***** is ten times more offensive then n*****.
This is not at all the case outside of a few niche locations.
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I feel like Orb actually did very little wrong. The fact that what he did a year ago, before he had even interacted with EG is ridiculous. While the word itself is horrible, this sort of thing happens to absolutely everyone at one point or another, and it's just not fair that something from so far back should come back to bite anyone like this.
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While the word itself is horrible, this sort of thing happens to absolutely everyone at one point or another,
No, it does not. Sorry.
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Where can I see the VOD where it all happens?
Thx!
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