• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:43
CET 12:43
KST 20:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High!
Tourneys
[BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13209 users

Stephano's Ladder Run Round 2 (Season 6) - Page 17

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 25 Next All
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:17:01
March 07 2012 22:58 GMT
#321
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.


Juan? thats major guy not even pass round 1 in EWM, right?

also lets talk about mechanics, in your world IdrA is the best zerg with best mechanics, but he is keep losing to eu players.WHY? because mechanics isnt everything in sc2. SjoW with 80 apm and superior to Major, and stephano superior to IdrA in every way.

Stop being jealous, you and major never been good and accomplished as Stephano/Kas/SjoW.

Also this picture fitting perfect on major and you

[image loading]

good ol' lastshadow, face with the truth.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 07 2012 22:59 GMT
#322
On March 08 2012 07:28 Odoakar wrote:
Stephano's stream - 10k views
MKP's stream - 1,7k views
Destiny's stream - 1,6k views

He's good but it's incredible how quickly people hop on a bandwagon

Why is Destiny in the comparison ? Yes, MKP "deserves" more viewers, but Destiny ?
sofakng
Profile Joined December 2011
100 Posts
March 07 2012 23:02 GMT
#323
On March 07 2012 23:09 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:36 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Stephano is a great player, the EU ladder is not the worst ladder but is no where near as good as Korea so these type of streaks are possible.

Not the worst? It's the second hardest after Korean, lol.


To be fair I think NA is better now at the higher levels I play gms on both and euro is cheesy as fuck. Na tends to macro more which is better for practice imo. I always just get cheesed and either die or usually defend the cheese then destroy them later.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:05:03
March 07 2012 23:02 GMT
#324
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze



http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp#alltime the mvp stephano faced has never been in bronze. Also isnt mvp in europe or going to be in europe for the (Wiki)Iron Squid?
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#325
On March 08 2012 07:58 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:22 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:12 00Visor wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:54 Zeon0 wrote:
DRG did a 10pool vs Stephano, it wasnt even a game where Stephano could show his skill

the win vs Hero wasnt worth that much too, Hero was 0-4 that day, one could say he sucked that day.


two bo1 wins mean less than nothing, dont act like Stephano is a multiple GSL winner because of them


I'm glad that haters had to go up to say, Stephano is overhyped because he is not a multiple GSL winner.
I can live with that.


This is the kind of thing that turns people off of Stephano. Hes a great player, I want to say he is the best foreigner, but shit like this is so obnoxious. Stephano has won IPL 3 and..? A bunch of small tournaments? To even compare him to DRG is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if he could hack it in Code S, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped straight to code B either. There are so many quality players in Code B/A that when watching their games look just as good as Stephano. He definitely hasn't looked unbeatable in tournaments lately.. What makes anyone think he is a contender for Code S championship yet?

First you are a strange person if you judge people not by them but by other people's actions. Also their actions are obnoxious to you because ? Because they overhype Stephano, I suppose with your logic you must hate nearly every progamer ever unless you are hypocrite.

ESWC was not a small tournament.

And as for people saying thet he maybe can do it in cose S. Of course he can, more than one foreigner actually can. Note that Liquid Zenio is in code S and Zenio's ZvT and ZvP are not that great. Is he a player that can stay in GSL for a long time and/or achieve high placements there ? That is completely different question. I think Stephano actually can with some longer stay in Korea, but I cannot state it unless he tries. Also note that I picked Zenio, but there are more players that skirt the code S boundary and are more than mortal compared to top foreigners.


I don't judge stephano by his fans. I said he is currently one of the best foreigners and the best foreign zerg. His fans can be extremely naive, however, and whenever something is hyped up by an overzealous fan base there is a negative response to it. I sometimes wonder just how familiar some of his fans are with the korean scene or if they only follow EU because they are (probably) from there.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:09:02
March 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#326
On March 08 2012 08:02 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze



http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp#alltime the mvp stephano faced has never been in bronze. Also isnt mvp in europe or going to be in europe for the iron squid?


Its a little strange that MVP would play so many games on EU though....... maybe its a shared IM account that they'll use for him for IronSquid?

It look like MVP's style of play, especially late game with the drops and hatch denying. Not many terrans can multi-task like that.... plus the way he held out til the very end was very Korean style....

I'd say 50/50.....

Why would such a good T use that smurf?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#327
On March 08 2012 08:02 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze



http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp#alltime the mvp stephano faced has never been in bronze. Also isnt mvp in europe or going to be in europe for the (Wiki)Iron Squid?

It is probably not MVP, but as you can see on the graph, his wins are legit. Maybe Kas? I don't know. He used to be a ladder beast. Having 1000 games more played than others.
I had a good night of sleep.
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
March 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#328
On March 08 2012 08:02 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze



http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp#alltime the mvp stephano faced has never been in bronze. Also isnt mvp in europe or going to be in europe for the (Wiki)Iron Squid?


nope iron squid is all online and played a while ago, finals are offline in paris but not for another 2 months, mvp would not be there this early
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
March 07 2012 23:08 GMT
#329
On March 08 2012 08:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:02 Archybaldie wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze



http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp#alltime the mvp stephano faced has never been in bronze. Also isnt mvp in europe or going to be in europe for the (Wiki)Iron Squid?

It is probably not MVP, but as you can see on the graph, his wins are legit. Maybe Kas? I don't know. He used to be a ladder beast. Having 1000 games more played than others.


I honestly think it might be Juan. If you think about it he's like the biggest IMvp fan and he's really good but then again I have no idea why he would practice on the EU ladder when he's in Korea. Might be time to compare the spam patterns?
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:15:48
March 07 2012 23:09 GMT
#330
On March 08 2012 08:07 IMNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:02 Archybaldie wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze



http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp#alltime the mvp stephano faced has never been in bronze. Also isnt mvp in europe or going to be in europe for the (Wiki)Iron Squid?


nope iron squid is all online and played a while ago, finals are offline in paris but not for another 2 months, mvp would not be there this early


Thank you, That mvp played pretty damn well vs stephano. But its probabaly not him i'm just curious who it is that seemed to play that well..

*edit* and ive had more then my usual amount of caffine so i occasionally get over excited and it takes me a few minutes to realise lol.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 07 2012 23:15 GMT
#331
The guy is a damn comedian. Watch his stream guys!
I had a good night of sleep.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
March 07 2012 23:16 GMT
#332
On March 08 2012 07:58 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.


Juan? thats major guy not even pass round 1 in EWM, right?

also lets talk about mechanics, in your world IdrA is the best zerg with best mechanics, but he is keep losing to eu players.

WHY? because mechanics isnt everything in sc2. SjoW with 80 apm and superior to Major, and stephano superior to IdrA in every way.

good ol' lastshadow.


I said idra has the best overall mechanics for Zerg for foreigners, which is true.
I've said DRG has the best overall mechanics for Zerg, in the world, which is true.
Did you just bring up EWM? Then bring up every other top korean that also dropped in round 1, oh now you just look silly, guess you didn't consider that.
I never said Stephano was bad, again, he's a great player, infact his egg-mechanic is something to be admired (many koreans gave up trying to learn in fact), but [overall] his mechanics are worse than IdrAs, what we see stephano be great at is his timings/awareness, which is superior to IdrA's

And I'm not even going to comment on your Sjow thing lol.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 07 2012 23:19 GMT
#333
IdrA's mechanics have been unimpressive these last few tournaments he's played in. Don't know why he still gets credit for having the best mechanics among foriegners.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
March 07 2012 23:20 GMT
#334
On March 08 2012 07:59 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:28 Odoakar wrote:
Stephano's stream - 10k views
MKP's stream - 1,7k views
Destiny's stream - 1,6k views

He's good but it's incredible how quickly people hop on a bandwagon

Why is Destiny in the comparison ? Yes, MKP "deserves" more viewers, but Destiny ?

I'm not really a Destiny follower but I'm pretty sure he is referring to when Destiny was a very popular streamer averaging around 6k viewers most of the time. Now a lot of people are off of his "bandwagon".
I get it.
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:21:36
March 07 2012 23:21 GMT
#335
On March 08 2012 08:16 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:58 dragonborn wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.


Juan? thats major guy not even pass round 1 in EWM, right?

also lets talk about mechanics, in your world IdrA is the best zerg with best mechanics, but he is keep losing to eu players.

WHY? because mechanics isnt everything in sc2. SjoW with 80 apm and superior to Major, and stephano superior to IdrA in every way.

good ol' lastshadow.


I said idra has the best overall mechanics for Zerg for foreigners, which is true.
I've said DRG has the best overall mechanics for Zerg, in the world, which is true.
Did you just bring up EWM? Then bring up every other top korean that also dropped in round 1, oh now you just look silly, guess you didn't consider that.
I never said Stephano was bad, again, he's a great player, infact his egg-mechanic is something to be admired (many koreans gave up trying to learn in fact), but [overall] his mechanics are worse than IdrAs, what we see stephano be great at is his timings/awareness, which is superior to IdrA's

And I'm not even going to comment on your Sjow thing lol.

Well DRG himself said Stephano mechanics are very good, he never said that about idra to my knowledge
And what are mechanics exactly ? If it's injects and to know when to drone, he is far superior to Idra atm.

Anyway, as the guy above said, he is now speaking on his stream, this is extremly entertaining, so watch it
Shadow and dust
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:28:41
March 07 2012 23:27 GMT
#336
On March 08 2012 08:16 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:58 dragonborn wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.


Juan? thats major guy not even pass round 1 in EWM, right?

also lets talk about mechanics, in your world IdrA is the best zerg with best mechanics, but he is keep losing to eu players.

WHY? because mechanics isnt everything in sc2. SjoW with 80 apm and superior to Major, and stephano superior to IdrA in every way.

good ol' lastshadow.


I said idra has the best overall mechanics for Zerg for foreigners, which is true.
I've said DRG has the best overall mechanics for Zerg, in the world, which is true.
Did you just bring up EWM? Then bring up every other top korean that also dropped in round 1, oh now you just look silly, guess you didn't consider that.
I never said Stephano was bad, again, he's a great player, infact his egg-mechanic is something to be admired (many koreans gave up trying to learn in fact), but [overall] his mechanics are worse than IdrAs, what we see stephano be great at is his timings/awareness, which is superior to IdrA's

And I'm not even going to comment on your Sjow thing lol.


You lost me at Idra. Either I misunderstand what you mean by mechanics or IMHO you have a blind spot when it comes to evaluating SC2 players.

CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 07 2012 23:29 GMT
#337
On March 08 2012 08:16 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:58 dragonborn wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.


Juan? thats major guy not even pass round 1 in EWM, right?

also lets talk about mechanics, in your world IdrA is the best zerg with best mechanics, but he is keep losing to eu players.

WHY? because mechanics isnt everything in sc2. SjoW with 80 apm and superior to Major, and stephano superior to IdrA in every way.

good ol' lastshadow.


I said idra has the best overall mechanics for Zerg for foreigners, which is true.
I've said DRG has the best overall mechanics for Zerg, in the world, which is true.
Did you just bring up EWM? Then bring up every other top korean that also dropped in round 1, oh now you just look silly, guess you didn't consider that.
I never said Stephano was bad, again, he's a great player, infact his egg-mechanic is something to be admired (many koreans gave up trying to learn in fact), but [overall] his mechanics are worse than IdrAs, what we see stephano be great at is his timings/awareness, which is superior to IdrA's

And I'm not even going to comment on your Sjow thing lol.


No top Koreans play in EWM silly goose.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
March 07 2012 23:29 GMT
#338
I wish Stephano would hurry up and move to Korea. He can't learn to beat players like Polt etc by destroying eu players every day.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 07 2012 23:32 GMT
#339
On March 08 2012 08:16 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:58 dragonborn wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.


Juan? thats major guy not even pass round 1 in EWM, right?

also lets talk about mechanics, in your world IdrA is the best zerg with best mechanics, but he is keep losing to eu players.

WHY? because mechanics isnt everything in sc2. SjoW with 80 apm and superior to Major, and stephano superior to IdrA in every way.

good ol' lastshadow.


I said idra has the best overall mechanics for Zerg for foreigners, which is true.
I've said DRG has the best overall mechanics for Zerg, in the world, which is true.
Did you just bring up EWM? Then bring up every other top korean that also dropped in round 1, oh now you just look silly, guess you didn't consider that.
I never said Stephano was bad, again, he's a great player, infact his egg-mechanic is something to be admired (many koreans gave up trying to learn in fact), but [overall] his mechanics are worse than IdrAs, what we see stephano be great at is his timings/awareness, which is superior to IdrA's

And I'm not even going to comment on your Sjow thing lol.

Stephano is the SUPERIOR player to IdrA in every possibly way.IdrA's mechanics was good when first 8 month of starcraft 2, now IdrA isnt something special.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Raleigh who is the highest placed foreigner? Where was MajOr?

oh wait, he was busy for losing SEA player JazBas in blizzcon

Stop being jealous and face with the truth, these players superior to your friends like IdrA/major.

also Top korean players playing in EWM? i thought they were in code S, LOL.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 07 2012 23:34 GMT
#340
On March 08 2012 07:28 Odoakar wrote:
Stephano's stream - 10k views
MKP's stream - 1,7k views
Destiny's stream - 1,6k views

He's good but it's incredible how quickly people hop on a bandwagon


I'm not a big fan, but I watched because the zergs that are better than him weren't streaming (idra/sen/sleep/violet) He's still good to watch, though you're not gonnna learn too much given his playstyle.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
SHIN vs RogueLIVE!
ByuN vs Solar
MaxPax vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
WardiTV540
TaKeTV 210
Rex90
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #155 (PatchesSC Mod)
ByuN vs YoungYakovLIVE!
TBD vs Shameless
ByuN337
CranKy Ducklings126
CranKy Ducklings SOOP19
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 337
Rex 90
Codebar 55
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6284
Rain 2011
Shuttle 1380
BeSt 558
Light 415
Hyuk 328
firebathero 274
Mini 259
FanTaSy 241
Soulkey 195
[ Show more ]
actioN 183
Last 158
Zeus 139
Mind 109
ggaemo 107
Pusan 93
ZerO 83
hero 81
Killer 53
Barracks 51
Hyun 49
Yoon 38
910 35
ToSsGirL 35
Creator 28
Snow 27
Free 25
PianO 25
JYJ 24
sorry 21
Sharp 20
Aegong 18
yabsab 18
HiyA 16
soO 16
Hm[arnc] 12
Sacsri 8
NaDa 7
Dota 2
Gorgc5480
monkeys_forever138
XcaliburYe136
Counter-Strike
x6flipin121
Other Games
FrodaN2011
singsing1717
XaKoH 209
Happy180
ToD65
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 17
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
5h 17m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
8h 17m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
22h 17m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.