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Stephano's Ladder Run Round 2 (Season 6) - Page 16

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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 07 2012 22:39 GMT
#301
On March 08 2012 07:38 rOse_PedaL wrote:
Stephano should play the KR server

he was top 50 grandmaster in kr.
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
March 07 2012 22:39 GMT
#302
Yeah I can't remember Stephano doing live commentary before, that's why his viewers bumped.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
March 07 2012 22:40 GMT
#303
On March 08 2012 07:38 rOse_PedaL wrote:
Stephano should play the KR server

Latency would be way too high when he is in Europe.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
March 07 2012 22:42 GMT
#304
I'm not that impressed.... he lost a Team Monobattles... It would be one thing if he lost against some baller player in an intense ladder game, but instead he lost to some random noobs in a Monobattles game.
I get it.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
March 07 2012 22:42 GMT
#305
On March 08 2012 07:19 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:12 00Visor wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:54 Zeon0 wrote:
DRG did a 10pool vs Stephano, it wasnt even a game where Stephano could show his skill

the win vs Hero wasnt worth that much too, Hero was 0-4 that day, one could say he sucked that day.


two bo1 wins mean less than nothing, dont act like Stephano is a multiple GSL winner because of them


I'm glad that haters had to go up to say, Stephano is overhyped because he is not a multiple GSL winner.
I can live with that.

i'm not a hater. i love him. but comparing him to flash? ridiculous

to be clear: stephano didnt achieve a lot in GSL, he went out in groupstage.

I don't see anything about Flash. Nor do I see a lot of people acting like Stephano is a multiple GSL winner (yeah, a few silly fanboys are always there).
You are just downplaying Stephanos Blizzcon perfomance. I don't know why. He went out, but he was 2-2. That doesnt define his skill, but 'means less than nothing'?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 07 2012 22:43 GMT
#306
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.
I had a good night of sleep.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:47:29
March 07 2012 22:44 GMT
#307
On March 08 2012 07:42 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:19 Zeon0 wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:12 00Visor wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:54 Zeon0 wrote:
DRG did a 10pool vs Stephano, it wasnt even a game where Stephano could show his skill

the win vs Hero wasnt worth that much too, Hero was 0-4 that day, one could say he sucked that day.


two bo1 wins mean less than nothing, dont act like Stephano is a multiple GSL winner because of them


I'm glad that haters had to go up to say, Stephano is overhyped because he is not a multiple GSL winner.
I can live with that.

i'm not a hater. i love him. but comparing him to flash? ridiculous

to be clear: stephano didnt achieve a lot in GSL, he went out in groupstage.

I don't see anything about Flash. Nor do I see a lot of people acting like Stephano is a multiple GSL winner (yeah, a few silly fanboys are always there).
You are just downplaying Stephanos Blizzcon perfomance. I don't know why. He went out, but he was 2-2. That doesnt define his skill, but 'means less than nothing'?


yes, i dont think his Blizzard Cup performance wasnt that good. he won a silly zvz. he won vs Hero, who was just terrible that day. then he lost with another silly all in vs MC and in the last game Mvp just outplayed him by countering his style hardcore

2 all ins, 1 game vs a player who performed bad that day, 1 loss to a (superior?) player who just knew how to counter him... 4 bo1s mean nothing


i wished he would play multiple gsls, so we can compare him with players like MMA, Mvp, DRG, Genius etc
On March 08 2012 00:30 Acritter wrote:
Lost at Team Monobattles...? Must have randomed Overlords or something.

Seriously, I think that Stephano would be close to the level of Flash if he offered a similar amount of dedication. There's some stuff in his play that can't really be copied. Remember what the BW players say? That there are some builds that only Flash can do because he's Flash? The same thing applies here.



people do compare him to flash. yes, its hard to believe^^
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 07 2012 22:44 GMT
#308
The guy is hilarious. Loving his stream.
I had a good night of sleep.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
March 07 2012 22:45 GMT
#309
Stephano is the only non-protoss-streamer I watch on a regular basis - he is funny and adorable; and skilled
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:47:27
March 07 2012 22:46 GMT
#310
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert and he certainly put more of a fight than the others.

Not sure
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
March 07 2012 22:47 GMT
#311
I would like to see him play on the KR ladder
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 07 2012 22:47 GMT
#312
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze
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Edko
Profile Joined September 2011
France20 Posts
March 07 2012 22:47 GMT
#313
On March 08 2012 07:28 Odoakar wrote:
Stephano's stream - 10k views
MKP's stream - 1,7k views
Destiny's stream - 1,6k views

He's good but it's incredible how quickly people hop on a bandwagon


Yeah, dunno why 1k6 ppl are watching Destiny while Stephano is playing :p
Nitro68
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France470 Posts
March 07 2012 22:48 GMT
#314
A good player for sure, but not the real MvP. The account was in bronze last season, so most of his record was made before he went to master.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 07 2012 22:48 GMT
#315
On March 08 2012 06:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 06:48 mcc wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:31 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:22 mcc wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:01 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:49 Flonomenalz wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:38 lastshadow wrote:
Wow he beat Hero and drg in bo1's congratulations. Wanna know Juan's record vs Forgg on ladder? 8-5. Juan > Forgg now? It's called random BoX's don't mean shit, especially when Koreans dont even wanna waste their breathe studying you.

It's sickening how much people credit Bo3's to skill, there is a reason Korean's don't hand out titles of calling someone skilled until they prove it over X months and or X Bo3's. Do you think Stephano would be able to replicate his results daily? Clearly not. We saw that in his IPL to MLG and GSL to HSC performances.



It wasn't a best of 3, it was a best of 1..... I guess it counts even less then.

I'm glad to see that your SC2 knowledge is imperfect though, I was beginning to doubt Stephano from your fine arguments.

Fact is.... he beat the current GSL champion on the GSL stage, if that's meaningless to you then so be it.

Dude just stop.

It was a best of 1.

And it was ZvZ.

Stop.

Man, TL posters actually make me dislike players sometimes, lol.


Good, the bandwagon is full. Its too late for you.... if you let my posts get in the way of recognizing Stephano's supreme talent... then it's your loss.

FACT: Stephano has a 100% win rate vs GSL Champion DRG. Source



Fact: Stephano is good.

Fact: Other players are good too.

Fact: Stephano doesn't have a GSL trophy.

Fact: DRG does.

Fact: 2+2=4 (except for extremely large values of 2).

This is fun. This is also silly. Can we move on

FACT: Stephano has a 0% win rate against me.

Guess that means I am better than him. lolololol.

No, he does not, you both have undefined or infinite winrate against eachother. You really cannot count too well.

oh, really? what if i was in that monobattle where he lost? lol

Was it 1v1 monobattle ?

does it matter if he lost and I won?

regardless, as fun as this is, my original post was only intending to show that context matters. stating something like Stephano has never lost to DRG when they only played one game is a meaningless statement.

Not really because then his team has 0% winrate against your team, not you.

Of course it is a meaningless statement. And that is why I just noted your 0% statement not the main point you were trying to make.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:49:30
March 07 2012 22:49 GMT
#316
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze


I thought that guy was the IMMVP on the US server though..... this IMMVP certainly played better than the other T's Stephano has faced today. He was actually in the game, without bunker rushing.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
March 07 2012 22:49 GMT
#317
he is still a pretty good player, you just saw how much trouble he made Steph
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 07 2012 22:52 GMT
#318
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze


Just as an FYI, it took me 89-2 to get from bronze to masters...after that, going fucking 111-18 against GM/high masters is pretty good, obviously it's not MVP, but he's pretty good nonetheless.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 07 2012 22:57 GMT
#319
On March 08 2012 07:52 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:47 zefreak wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:46 dsousa wrote:
On March 08 2012 07:43 Koshi wrote:
"IMMVP" just got rolled. Damn. That guy got good stats.


Ya, at first didn't think it was MVP, but the 220 - 20 record is pretty amazing. Plus his drops and siege tank placement were quite expert.

Not sure


It's not, just someone who abused the ladder by tanking his mmr to bronze


Just as an FYI, it took me 89-2 to get from bronze to masters...after that, going fucking 111-18 against GM/high masters is pretty good, obviously it's not MVP, but he's pretty good nonetheless.


Not saying hes bad, I saw the game myself, just that it's not THE mvp
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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 07 2012 22:58 GMT
#320
On March 08 2012 07:22 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:12 00Visor wrote:
On March 08 2012 06:54 Zeon0 wrote:
DRG did a 10pool vs Stephano, it wasnt even a game where Stephano could show his skill

the win vs Hero wasnt worth that much too, Hero was 0-4 that day, one could say he sucked that day.


two bo1 wins mean less than nothing, dont act like Stephano is a multiple GSL winner because of them


I'm glad that haters had to go up to say, Stephano is overhyped because he is not a multiple GSL winner.
I can live with that.


This is the kind of thing that turns people off of Stephano. Hes a great player, I want to say he is the best foreigner, but shit like this is so obnoxious. Stephano has won IPL 3 and..? A bunch of small tournaments? To even compare him to DRG is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if he could hack it in Code S, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped straight to code B either. There are so many quality players in Code B/A that when watching their games look just as good as Stephano. He definitely hasn't looked unbeatable in tournaments lately.. What makes anyone think he is a contender for Code S championship yet?

First you are a strange person if you judge people not by them but by other people's actions. Also their actions are obnoxious to you because ? Because they overhype Stephano, I suppose with your logic you must hate nearly every progamer ever unless you are hypocrite.

ESWC was not a small tournament.

And as for people saying thet he maybe can do it in cose S. Of course he can, more than one foreigner actually can. Note that Liquid Zenio is in code S and Zenio's ZvT and ZvP are not that great. Is he a player that can stay in GSL for a long time and/or achieve high placements there ? That is completely different question. I think Stephano actually can with some longer stay in Korea, but I cannot state it unless he tries. Also note that I picked Zenio, but there are more players that skirt the code S boundary and are more than mortal compared to top foreigners.
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