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On March 07 2012 20:39 ChriS-X wrote:
and i would say that jessica has earnt it from what she has sacrificed to help the team, not to mention how the rest of the players in the team look up to her and boxer as their big brother and sister.
besides, you are trying to view this from a western point of view. in an eastern context, especially in korea, the culture there has already dictated that since they are your elders, you need to respect them, more so if it's your team manager.
the way progaming teams in korea work is probably very different and alien to most people outside their culture, add to that the traditional korean cultural view, it would be very dissimilar to the workings of a normal job
I'm sorry, but that seems like a very convenient "cultural context" for people who make lucrative sponsorship and endorsement deals, and a very shitty "cultural context" for people who get whatever trickles down.
It's not all that different the "work ethic" horseshit they peddle in the US, so it's not necessarily an East/West thing.
I am not viewing this from a western perspective, I am viewing this from a modern liberal democracy perspective.
If progaming takes off in India, should we also be respectful of the caste system?
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On March 07 2012 17:48 Atoissen wrote:
Poor Jessica, I dont think she is very angry, she seems more hurt.
I think she putts alott of emotion and trust into her players, so they become somewhat of a family, Slayers fight and care for eachother.
From what we can see, sure. Looks like a false facade though if you ask me. If not I'd almost call it 'freaky'.
And most of us dont understand the way of the Koreans, they care much more about honesty and honour then "foreigners".
I don't buy this one bit, honour and honesty is just bullcrap to put on a false show. I think they are just as dirty as the next businessman. Coach Lee incidents, corruptive government, etc?
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On March 07 2012 20:51 KaiserJohan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 17:48 Atoissen wrote:
Poor Jessica, I dont think she is very angry, she seems more hurt.
I think she putts alott of emotion and trust into her players, so they become somewhat of a family, Slayers fight and care for eachother.
From what we can see, sure. Looks like a false facade though if you ask me. If not I'd almost call it 'freaky'. Show nested quote +
And most of us dont understand the way of the Koreans, they care much more about honesty and honour then "foreigners".
I don't buy this one bit, honour and honesty is just bullcrap to put on a false show. I think they are just as dirty as the next businessman. Coach Lee incidents, corruptive government, etc?
Yeah, European culture used to be all about honor and tradition and respecting authority too. And that culminated in millions upon millions of people marched into trenches to die for "honor and loyalty" in the name of King and country.
Just because something is cultural doesn't make it right and immune to criticism.
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we were all loyal and honored in Europe , until the crysis and Hitler came to free us from peace..
Just bring the Proleague to SC2 please
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On March 07 2012 21:00 tapk69 wrote:
we were all loyal and honored in Europe , until the crysis and Hitler came to free us from peace..
Just bring the Proleague to SC2 please
That's a rather un-expected Godwin. Well done sir.
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It ıs not how you can manage people. It can be gıven as an example of bad management.
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She seems like a very passonate lady, I really don't know any more I just presumed that Dragon, Golden and Sleep were kicked out of slayers. There wasn't really anything that made me think otherwise but I just presumed that. I got to say though what she is saying sounds like she feels pretty hurt about the whole thing and that is a shame.
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On March 07 2012 21:13 FlukyS wrote:
She seems like a very passonate lady, I really don't know any more I just presumed that Dragon, Golden and Sleep were kicked out of slayers. There wasn't really anything that made me think otherwise but I just presumed that. I got to say though what she is saying sounds like she feels pretty hurt about the whole thing and that is a shame.
So we're calling tantrum throwing and recklessness "passion" now? Obviously anyone who is civil and polite is just completely apathetic!
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If this is a bad PR move for SlayerS on Jessica's part, it's not because it's a bad PR move. It's because the people on the receiving end are too stupid to separate a personal opinion from an organization.
FYI, it's Jessica's twitter account, not SlayerS.
Edit: You know, like in those instances when you hear "The following opinions do not represent blah blah blah". It's like that, except it should just be assumed because it's her own personal twitter account.
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It honestly upsets me a bit that people think that Jessica's reaction is unreasonable. Maybe it really is a cultural thing as mentioned earlier, as I am Korean 
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On March 07 2012 17:23 neoghaleon55 wrote:omg Jessica! >_< This is a PR disaster. You can't say things like and It makes you look very petty and insecure. I know you're angry, but you are the adult and he's just a kid. You have to stay classy...
She can't get kids or? Seems like it really...
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He changed his mind about stopping playing, and got recruited by Millenium, whats wrong with that?
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Seriously, I hope that people would stop to talk about everthing publicly. She can feel bad about it, being hurt and all... it's normal. But going on twitter to talk about it is NOT, that's for sure.
Playing the victim publicly, after an internal issue, is making you look silly and petty.
"The people who take his side seem more ridiculous... "
Seriously?
I love SlayerS, but god, someone should tell her to stop using twitter for those shits. She is making all the team look really bad, that's for sure.
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Peace please everybody this is nothing stop creating drama for nothing
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On March 07 2012 21:31 Xalorian wrote:
Seriously, I hope that people would stop to talk about everthing publicly. She can feel bad about it, being hurt and all... it's normal. But going on twitter to talk about it is NOT, that's for sure.
Playing the victim publicly, after an internal issue, is making you look silly and petty.
"The people who take his side seem more ridiculous... "
Seriously?
I love SlayerS, but god, someone should tell her to stop using twitter for those shits. She is making all the team look really bad, that's for sure.
It's her PERSONAL twitter. It's pretty much implied she's doing it in her own capacity as an individual.
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Actually I think the Korean culture, particularly sponsors, will see it as respect towards Jessica only because of her outwardly care about her team and the quality of her players.
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EH, she had emotional capital in them...
No drama but what people let loose. Jessica is as Jessica does, if she didn't put out a tweet like this she'd probably explode xD
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Wow, seriously what is Jessica doing? Someone really needs to stop her. Everyone knows tweeting or using facebook talking about things like this can get you fired from your job and end up embarrassing you in the future.
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On March 07 2012 21:37 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:31 Xalorian wrote:
Seriously, I hope that people would stop to talk about everthing publicly. She can feel bad about it, being hurt and all... it's normal. But going on twitter to talk about it is NOT, that's for sure.
Playing the victim publicly, after an internal issue, is making you look silly and petty.
"The people who take his side seem more ridiculous... "
Seriously?
I love SlayerS, but god, someone should tell her to stop using twitter for those shits. She is making all the team look really bad, that's for sure. It's her PERSONAL twitter. It's pretty much implied she's doing it in her own capacity as an individual.
AND?
What the fuck about it?
If I own or manage a team, I can't just go on twitter and tell shit to try to gain people sympathy and being silly and petty about a team issue, just because it's my personnal twitter. That is retarded.
And stop about this "It's a korean cultural thing!"... So Korea love useless drama about internal business? I, for sure, don't... and SlayerS need and want the support from all over the world, not just from Korea, or they will just go bankrupt. So, no, sorry, but it makes no senses, It's a good thing if Korean are not seeing this as Petty and Silly, but must of us do, here, that's for sure. Twitter is not Korean only.
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Jessica is always so BM on twitter whenever anything happens
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