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No overlapping of orb drama. Keep the two topics separate. People bringing the orb discussion over to this thread will be warned/banned (starting on page 25*).
Terrafros
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
March 07 2012 09:56 GMT
#61
Though I feel Jessica goes too far in her tweets, the point she is raising is essential.

Rather than being upfront and honest, Dragon gave a false reason for wanting to leave Slayers. Very unprofessional, and very immature.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 07 2012 09:57 GMT
#62
Jeez she is getting out of hand again. Someone isn't allowed to quit the game and decide later he wants to play again full-time?
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 07 2012 09:58 GMT
#63
It's just a personal rant. I think Dragon should have followed proper etiquette and communicated his new plans with his former team. Nevertheless, I think this issue will be resolved sooner or later.

I don't really see any 'drama' here, but I guess some people will look for a soap opera everywhere.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:59:27
March 07 2012 09:58 GMT
#64
Y'know the issue with Jessica's laments is that it now actually creates a public problem. What is the public going to do about knowing how you feel about Dragon? Didn't anyone interpret Dragon's move as a backstab to SlayerS and if so, did you assume it was a valid theory or idea? Well Jessica has now just validated it and on top of that, SlayerS name gets tarnished because people will now associate this whole issue with Slayers in the back of their mind.

Before, it was all about Dragon going to Millenium after being teamless and reconsider going back to professional player rather than just an entertainer due to his past [and who knows if SlayerS would have put him back on the roster, especially with CoCa just returning). No one thought of it as a cowardly-way to get away from SlayerS, even if it was, it's not that huge of an issue for the public. Just the team and that team should complain purely amongst friends and themselves, the public won't side with you and even if they do, he's not going back SlayerS and you're certainly not taking him back.

So who wins here? You make an issue, you furthered it with outrageous potential claims and now you just tarnished your team's name. That's three strikes you're out.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
yellowmoe
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada59 Posts
March 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#65
On March 07 2012 18:48 ETisME wrote:
people should read this:
"Don't do that on the other teams please? Don't be proud of your Slayers roots... The fact that we had a liar like you on the team is embarrassing."


I don't think she said anything like that in her twitter... You might have misread her twitter. She said she is worried that if Dragon continues to lie, people will hate Slayer clan. She didn't say that it was embarrasing to have him on their team. The way that she writes, I still think she thinks Dragon of family.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
March 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#66
Shit dragon isn't the 1337 awesome guy reddit sees in him, what a surprise...
Poor SlayerS team, first CoCa and now dragon, good thing it's Boxer's team afterall should help them a lot in korea when they get all this bad publiciety.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 07 2012 10:02 GMT
#67
On March 07 2012 18:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
Y'know the issue with Jessica's laments is that it now actually creates a public problem. What is the public going to do about knowing how you feel about Dragon? Didn't anyone interpret Dragon's move as a backstab to SlayerS and if so, did you assume it was a valid theory or idea? Well Jessica has now just validated it and on top of that, SlayerS name gets tarnished because people will now associate this whole issue with Slayers in the back of their mind.

Before, it was all about Dragon going to Millenium after being teamless and reconsider going back to professional player rather than just an entertainer due to his past [and who knows if SlayerS would have put him back on the roster, especially with CoCa just returning). No one thought of it as a cowardly-way to get away from SlayerS, even if it was, it's not that huge of an issue for the public. Just the team and that team should complain purely amongst friends and themselves, the public won't side with you and even if they do, he's not going back SlayerS and you're certainly not taking him back.

So who wins here? You make an issue, you furthered it with outrageous potential claims and now you just tarnished your team's name. That's three strikes you're out.


What.

SlayerS name didn't get tarnished in my eyes. How does people associating the issue with SlayerS in the back of their mind tarnish anything?

There's some misunderstanding, perhaps. But nothing is more dramatic than 'That's three strikes you're out'.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:06:08
March 07 2012 10:05 GMT
#68
On March 07 2012 19:02 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
Y'know the issue with Jessica's laments is that it now actually creates a public problem. What is the public going to do about knowing how you feel about Dragon? Didn't anyone interpret Dragon's move as a backstab to SlayerS and if so, did you assume it was a valid theory or idea? Well Jessica has now just validated it and on top of that, SlayerS name gets tarnished because people will now associate this whole issue with Slayers in the back of their mind.

Before, it was all about Dragon going to Millenium after being teamless and reconsider going back to professional player rather than just an entertainer due to his past [and who knows if SlayerS would have put him back on the roster, especially with CoCa just returning). No one thought of it as a cowardly-way to get away from SlayerS, even if it was, it's not that huge of an issue for the public. Just the team and that team should complain purely amongst friends and themselves, the public won't side with you and even if they do, he's not going back SlayerS and you're certainly not taking him back.

So who wins here? You make an issue, you furthered it with outrageous potential claims and now you just tarnished your team's name. That's three strikes you're out.


What.

SlayerS name didn't get tarnished in my eyes. How does people associating the issue with SlayerS in the back of their mind tarnish anything?

There's some misunderstanding, perhaps. But nothing is more dramatic than 'That's three strikes you're out'.


What? When I think of SlayerS now, I will think of this and all the other issues with them such as the CoCa issue. Jessica and SlayerS Eve, how she is going to sue people for bad-mouthing SlayerS, etc. It stacks, if she didn't want people to think badly of SlayerS based on Dragon's actions, why raise the issue up at all. If Dragon leaves Millenium now or "lies/deceives" them for another team, it would be on him and the association would be purely on him.

Now it's about Dragon and SlayerS and just puts him in the dirt in addition to giving SlayerS a pointless victim role if anything or an organization with a tempered manager.

The three strikes thing was me trying to be the writer. As you can tell, I'm not Fitzgerald.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
March 07 2012 10:14 GMT
#69
On March 07 2012 19:01 yellowmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:48 ETisME wrote:
people should read this:
"Don't do that on the other teams please? Don't be proud of your Slayers roots... The fact that we had a liar like you on the team is embarrassing."


I don't think she said anything like that in her twitter... You might have misread her twitter. She said she is worried that if Dragon continues to lie, people will hate Slayer clan. She didn't say that it was embarrasing to have him on their team. The way that she writes, I still think she thinks Dragon of family.

I read it from the translation @OP
Not sure if that is an accurate translate or not but that feels like a comment that she would make
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
redemption
Profile Joined February 2006
United States112 Posts
March 07 2012 10:18 GMT
#70
On March 07 2012 18:36 Tump wrote:
Koreans like to rant and rave. That's part of their culture. Chill guys.

Hahaha this 100%. All there is to it.

I bet not a single person in Korea batted an eye about the "unprofessionalism" in her tweets.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 07 2012 10:25 GMT
#71
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Defrag
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:35:17
March 07 2012 10:34 GMT
#72
I see no reason why this should hit public area, she's only looking to hurt the player.
Stuff like this happens all time in sports, and will continue to happen anyway: Dragon's behavior was wrong, but there is no way a team manager should be trying to publically crucify the player.

This is, in my opinion, highly unproffessional behavior from Jessica and is working TERRIBLY for Slayer's PR. Can't say I'm surprised thou, especially after previous 'drama queen' situations that already took place in the past.
DeekZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia235 Posts
March 07 2012 10:38 GMT
#73
Someone really needs to step in an stop Jessica from tweeting like this.. It doesn't matter how to feel about Dragon she is clearly overreacting, and to make it worse she's doing it publicly. Dragon joining a new team isn't hurting her and the only thing that's embarrassing SlayerS is Jessica's tweets.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
March 07 2012 10:42 GMT
#74
On March 07 2012 18:56 Terrafros wrote:
Though I feel Jessica goes too far in her tweets, the point she is raising is essential.

Rather than being upfront and honest, Dragon gave a false reason for wanting to leave Slayers. Very unprofessional, and very immature.


Or maybe he didn't give a false reason, wasn't decided on any particular team, and Jessica isn't a mind reader.

This is absurd behavior on her part. A team is an employer, end of story. If I decide to seek employment elsewhere, I am not in any way obligated to tell my boss about it. I just have to honor my contract.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:44:34
March 07 2012 10:43 GMT
#75
Maybe in Korea it's okay to discuss things like this but it just comes across as massively unprofessional and petty to me... (And i'm not someone who watches Dragon's stream / cares about him at all)

EDIT: Although maybe you can lump this in with recent statements by FXOBoss so maybe it's just how SC2 management acts...
@followMVT
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 07 2012 10:48 GMT
#76
On March 07 2012 19:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:02 plogamer wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
Y'know the issue with Jessica's laments is that it now actually creates a public problem. What is the public going to do about knowing how you feel about Dragon? Didn't anyone interpret Dragon's move as a backstab to SlayerS and if so, did you assume it was a valid theory or idea? Well Jessica has now just validated it and on top of that, SlayerS name gets tarnished because people will now associate this whole issue with Slayers in the back of their mind.

Before, it was all about Dragon going to Millenium after being teamless and reconsider going back to professional player rather than just an entertainer due to his past [and who knows if SlayerS would have put him back on the roster, especially with CoCa just returning). No one thought of it as a cowardly-way to get away from SlayerS, even if it was, it's not that huge of an issue for the public. Just the team and that team should complain purely amongst friends and themselves, the public won't side with you and even if they do, he's not going back SlayerS and you're certainly not taking him back.

So who wins here? You make an issue, you furthered it with outrageous potential claims and now you just tarnished your team's name. That's three strikes you're out.


What.

SlayerS name didn't get tarnished in my eyes. How does people associating the issue with SlayerS in the back of their mind tarnish anything?

There's some misunderstanding, perhaps. But nothing is more dramatic than 'That's three strikes you're out'.


What? When I think of SlayerS now, I will think of this and all the other issues with them such as the CoCa issue. Jessica and SlayerS Eve, how she is going to sue people for bad-mouthing SlayerS, etc. It stacks, if she didn't want people to think badly of SlayerS based on Dragon's actions, why raise the issue up at all. If Dragon leaves Millenium now or "lies/deceives" them for another team, it would be on him and the association would be purely on him.

Now it's about Dragon and SlayerS and just puts him in the dirt in addition to giving SlayerS a pointless victim role if anything or an organization with a tempered manager.

The three strikes thing was me trying to be the writer. As you can tell, I'm not Fitzgerald.

Seems you are just as emotional as Jessica. It is twitter not a PR statement, people like you just create unnecessary drama, or if not create then put more oil on the flames.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
March 07 2012 10:51 GMT
#77
On March 07 2012 19:42 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:56 Terrafros wrote:
Though I feel Jessica goes too far in her tweets, the point she is raising is essential.

Rather than being upfront and honest, Dragon gave a false reason for wanting to leave Slayers. Very unprofessional, and very immature.


Or maybe he didn't give a false reason, wasn't decided on any particular team, and Jessica isn't a mind reader.

This is absurd behavior on her part. A team is an employer, end of story. If I decide to seek employment elsewhere, I am not in any way obligated to tell my boss about it. I just have to honor my contract.

it's not just about the contract. people are not emotionless robots, there are human factors involved as well. don't tell me you won't at least feel a bit hurt if you were led around like that.
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
March 07 2012 10:52 GMT
#78
I like to watch Dragon's stream but I'm not a fan in particular. I seem to remember him saying something like "I want to have SC2 as a hobby, or find new opportunities" (not a direct quote, just how I remember it). This is a new opportunity and he should be proud!

Jessica, however, seems to be a bit of a cry-baby. She is worried about team Slayers reputation and then tweets stuff like this..? Unfortunate for such a great time to be represented by her in those situations..
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hersenen
Profile Joined November 2011
Belize176 Posts
March 07 2012 10:52 GMT
#79
Jessica's allowed to have an opinion or emotion on the matter that you may not agree with. Heck, the majority might not even agree with. However, I'm sure you have opinions or emotions on a certain topic that the mass doesn't agree with and I imagine you tell them something along the lines of "deal with it."

Just trying to give a new perspective, regards.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
March 07 2012 11:01 GMT
#80
On March 07 2012 19:42 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:56 Terrafros wrote:
Though I feel Jessica goes too far in her tweets, the point she is raising is essential.

Rather than being upfront and honest, Dragon gave a false reason for wanting to leave Slayers. Very unprofessional, and very immature.


Or maybe he didn't give a false reason, wasn't decided on any particular team, and Jessica isn't a mind reader.

This is absurd behavior on her part. A team is an employer, end of story. If I decide to seek employment elsewhere, I am not in any way obligated to tell my boss about it. I just have to honor my contract.


As many, many people have already said: There's a huge difference between asian and western views on stuff like this. Regardless of how you personally feel people should act culture is ingrained and impossible to just change over night.
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