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almins
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Wales39 Posts
March 08 2012 15:21 GMT
#421
jessica s hanging her dirty washing out to dry again i see. TT
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
March 08 2012 15:23 GMT
#422
Or maybe dragon was confronted by jessica about his rampant stream cheating, and he told her he was quiting anyways. She's just to classy to call him out after the fact.
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
March 08 2012 15:23 GMT
#423
On March 09 2012 00:17 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:11 Fubi wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:02 Acritter wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:41 Fubi wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:16 Acritter wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:03 yoojaein0131 wrote:
On March 08 2012 17:36 ranshaked wrote:
Can someone translate this? + Show Spoiler +
뭐? 우린 돈 안주고 거긴 돈 줘서 간거라고? 너 글 내가 삭제해서 다들 오해할까봐 내가 친절하게 써주마. 얘야. 자고로 능력치에 맞게 해줘야지? 안그래? 돈만주면 양심도 팔고 친구도 배신할 기세네.. 팬이라면서 너스스로 그 선수를 까고 있다고는 생각안하니? 궁금하면 한국어 공부해. 너에겐 영어로 대답하는것도 아깝다. 어디서 외국인이라고 맘놓고 욕질이냐? 나도 욕 잘하거덩?

In google translate I got:
What? Glad we went there was money there anjugo money? Posts I'm afraid you misunderstood me kindly by deleting sseojuma everyone. Honey. What would you do to meet benevolence stats? Is not it? I just want my money selling conscience betray friends gisene. Mariners fans are off, saying that as a player do not you think that I give a fuck? If you're curious, studying Korean. A waste of a reply out for you in English. Where yokjilyinya mamnotgo Foreigners? I jalhageodeong bath?



Basically, it sounds like she is telling foreigners to fuck off? I'm not sure.


ranshaked i'll give you the most accurate korean-to-english translation of this :
"What? so he left because they're going to pay him and we didn't? Since people might misunderstand from me deleting your post, i'll kindly reply. Kid, if you want to be paid, you need to have the skills, no? Looks like you're ready to sell off your own friends and morals if someone pays you.. You say you're a fan yet don't you think you're actually making him look bad? if you don't understand what I'm saying, go study korean. I can't be bothered to reply in english to the likes of you. How dare you spout your profanity at me like it's nothing just because you're a foreigner? I can get on that level too."

wow this woman is MAD :/
i wrote this as nicely as possible but holy crap I'm a Korean and I think she's going overboard w/ this;;;

Okay. If Boxer allows her to keep painting the team in this bad a light, then I don't think SlayerS is going to last much longer. At the very least, I'm going to lose a lot of respect for the man, letting his passions harm each other like this. Jessica being involved with the team isn't good for Jessica OR the team. She needs to be removed, sooner rather than later.

She's been like this since forever, and Slayers is still one of the fan favourite team, even winning the favourite team of the year at GSL for 2011. So keep bashing at them, but you vocal minorities are pretty irrelevant when it comes to the bigger picture, especially if you consider the korean community.

I hate to say this, but... just wait. The more she does this, the sicker people will get of her immaturity. In particular, do you think that anyone will want to do business with SlayerS, knowing that Jessica will start Twittering about it? Each individual action might not lose very much support, but the longer this goes on the worse it will become.

You fail to remember that for every one of these "drama" event that she does (like what, maybe once every other month?), the Slayer's team as a whole is making more fans as well. I mean, it might SEEMS like a lot of people are hating on them just based on this post, but that's why it's called vocal minority: people that hate are 10times more likely to post. I mean even if you add up everyone that claims "I won't support slayers anymore cuz of this" in this thread, it's like less than 50-100; I'm pretty sure if a Slayer's player wins (or even get into top 4) of any major tournament will win them 100 times more fan than this lol.

I have yet to see you address the issue of sponsorship. Who would want their business dealings with SlayerS to be relayed publically? Currently, the only things SlayerS has going for it are Boxer (admittedly huge) and MMA (tied to Boxer). That's all they really have in terms of skill and popularity. Jessica is dragging that down. Imagine, for a moment, that something happens between Jessica and MMA. The team will lose one of its greatest assets instantly. Who would keep sponsoring a team like that?

I don't get what the difference is for sponsors and fans. It's the same concept, for every Slayers players that wins a major tournament (or even just placing high), they would have much higher chance of gaining a sponsors than chance for something like this that will lose them one. Also, sponsors are tied to fan popularity, so the more fans they get, the more likely they will get sponsors; hence refer to my last post about fans.

Also, your "Slayers only has Boxers and MMA" comment makes no sense, I mean if you put it that way, every team only has 1-2 people going for them in terms of popularity/skills: MVP "only" has DRG and Genius, IM only has MVP and Nestea, Prime only has MKP, etc etc, so I don't see your point?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46651 Posts
March 08 2012 15:24 GMT
#424
On March 09 2012 00:19 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:45 Bagration wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:16 Acritter wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:03 yoojaein0131 wrote:
On March 08 2012 17:36 ranshaked wrote:
Can someone translate this? + Show Spoiler +
뭐? 우린 돈 안주고 거긴 돈 줘서 간거라고? 너 글 내가 삭제해서 다들 오해할까봐 내가 친절하게 써주마. 얘야. 자고로 능력치에 맞게 해줘야지? 안그래? 돈만주면 양심도 팔고 친구도 배신할 기세네.. 팬이라면서 너스스로 그 선수를 까고 있다고는 생각안하니? 궁금하면 한국어 공부해. 너에겐 영어로 대답하는것도 아깝다. 어디서 외국인이라고 맘놓고 욕질이냐? 나도 욕 잘하거덩?

In google translate I got:
What? Glad we went there was money there anjugo money? Posts I'm afraid you misunderstood me kindly by deleting sseojuma everyone. Honey. What would you do to meet benevolence stats? Is not it? I just want my money selling conscience betray friends gisene. Mariners fans are off, saying that as a player do not you think that I give a fuck? If you're curious, studying Korean. A waste of a reply out for you in English. Where yokjilyinya mamnotgo Foreigners? I jalhageodeong bath?



Basically, it sounds like she is telling foreigners to fuck off? I'm not sure.


ranshaked i'll give you the most accurate korean-to-english translation of this :
"What? so he left because they're going to pay him and we didn't? Since people might misunderstand from me deleting your post, i'll kindly reply. Kid, if you want to be paid, you need to have the skills, no? Looks like you're ready to sell off your own friends and morals if someone pays you.. You say you're a fan yet don't you think you're actually making him look bad? if you don't understand what I'm saying, go study korean. I can't be bothered to reply in english to the likes of you. How dare you spout your profanity at me like it's nothing just because you're a foreigner? I can get on that level too."

wow this woman is MAD :/
i wrote this as nicely as possible but holy crap I'm a Korean and I think she's going overboard w/ this;;;

Okay. If Boxer allows her to keep painting the team in this bad a light, then I don't think SlayerS is going to last much longer. At the very least, I'm going to lose a lot of respect for the man, letting his passions harm each other like this. Jessica being involved with the team isn't good for Jessica OR the team. She needs to be removed, sooner rather than later.


Remove Jessica? That's like Liquid firing Nazgul. Self-destructive to the team and won't happen.


For what it's worth...

1. I've never heard any bad press about Nazgul (from articles or other teams/ management)
2. I've never heard Nazgul make any unprofessional comments, especially team-related ones
3. I've specifically heard mountains of compliments regarding how well he takes care of his team

So I think removing Jessica would make far more sense than removing Nazgul, although I'm not exactly calling for her necessary removal (if she indeed provides essential qualities to SlayerS). She just needs to be careful with how she presents herself and SlayerS through her Twitter and other online forums/ media avenues.

But this is because Nazgul/TL is a western team, hence their actions and decisions would seem to make 100 times more sense because they have the same values as us. Slayers is different, and as some people have already pointed out, the Korean community don't see what the big deal with this is


Good point. Does the Korean community find Dragon to be very much at fault? Otherwise, I'm not sure why the repeated jabs at Dragon by Jessica would be found acceptable as opposed to "Okay we get it; it's time to let it go and move on".
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
March 08 2012 15:24 GMT
#425
I honestly dont see a problem with her reaction. I totally agree with what the majority of the people here are saying about professionalism. If Slayers was a company, then you guys are probably right.

But to many korean teams, the team is like a family. Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

Here is where the cultural part comes in, the korea or eastern culture would look at the team more as a family, where people share blood sweat and tears and progress together. But what most of you in this thread see as a team is a corporation and business. Hiring the players to win tournaments for your business and increasing publicity and all that.

Theres no right or wrong to either one, but when both cultures meet on a similar platform such as twitter, you get this shitfest.
SpyNinja
Profile Joined December 2011
United States78 Posts
March 08 2012 15:27 GMT
#426
Lol the way Jessica responded to this is utterly absurd and unprofessional but hey you'll have that
Qiox
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada36 Posts
March 08 2012 15:27 GMT
#427
On March 09 2012 00:23 LeSioN wrote:
Or maybe dragon was confronted by jessica about his rampant stream cheating, and he told her he was quiting anyways. She's just to classy to call him out after the fact.


Just make shit up, believe it to be true and start insulting. That's your plan?
Qiox
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada36 Posts
March 08 2012 15:31 GMT
#428
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 15:32:45
March 08 2012 15:32 GMT
#429
Nothing wrong with talking smack on twitter , that is what twitter is for !

When dragon arrives in Vegas for the IPL , he is probably going to end up in some strip club and become an alcoholic and never going back to Korea..

He is going to be the USA hope after getting American nationality..

ja foste
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
March 08 2012 15:35 GMT
#430
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.
Qiox
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada36 Posts
March 08 2012 15:38 GMT
#431
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
March 08 2012 15:43 GMT
#432
On March 09 2012 00:38 Qiox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!

But you DON"T know what Dragon said to Jessica or what went on between them. What if Dragon went up to Jessica and said "Hey i'm NEVER going to be a pro gamer again"?
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 15:45:51
March 08 2012 15:44 GMT
#433
On March 09 2012 00:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:19 Fubi wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:45 Bagration wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:16 Acritter wrote:
On March 08 2012 18:03 yoojaein0131 wrote:
On March 08 2012 17:36 ranshaked wrote:
Can someone translate this? + Show Spoiler +
뭐? 우린 돈 안주고 거긴 돈 줘서 간거라고? 너 글 내가 삭제해서 다들 오해할까봐 내가 친절하게 써주마. 얘야. 자고로 능력치에 맞게 해줘야지? 안그래? 돈만주면 양심도 팔고 친구도 배신할 기세네.. 팬이라면서 너스스로 그 선수를 까고 있다고는 생각안하니? 궁금하면 한국어 공부해. 너에겐 영어로 대답하는것도 아깝다. 어디서 외국인이라고 맘놓고 욕질이냐? 나도 욕 잘하거덩?

In google translate I got:
What? Glad we went there was money there anjugo money? Posts I'm afraid you misunderstood me kindly by deleting sseojuma everyone. Honey. What would you do to meet benevolence stats? Is not it? I just want my money selling conscience betray friends gisene. Mariners fans are off, saying that as a player do not you think that I give a fuck? If you're curious, studying Korean. A waste of a reply out for you in English. Where yokjilyinya mamnotgo Foreigners? I jalhageodeong bath?



Basically, it sounds like she is telling foreigners to fuck off? I'm not sure.


ranshaked i'll give you the most accurate korean-to-english translation of this :
"What? so he left because they're going to pay him and we didn't? Since people might misunderstand from me deleting your post, i'll kindly reply. Kid, if you want to be paid, you need to have the skills, no? Looks like you're ready to sell off your own friends and morals if someone pays you.. You say you're a fan yet don't you think you're actually making him look bad? if you don't understand what I'm saying, go study korean. I can't be bothered to reply in english to the likes of you. How dare you spout your profanity at me like it's nothing just because you're a foreigner? I can get on that level too."

wow this woman is MAD :/
i wrote this as nicely as possible but holy crap I'm a Korean and I think she's going overboard w/ this;;;

Okay. If Boxer allows her to keep painting the team in this bad a light, then I don't think SlayerS is going to last much longer. At the very least, I'm going to lose a lot of respect for the man, letting his passions harm each other like this. Jessica being involved with the team isn't good for Jessica OR the team. She needs to be removed, sooner rather than later.


Remove Jessica? That's like Liquid firing Nazgul. Self-destructive to the team and won't happen.


For what it's worth...

1. I've never heard any bad press about Nazgul (from articles or other teams/ management)
2. I've never heard Nazgul make any unprofessional comments, especially team-related ones
3. I've specifically heard mountains of compliments regarding how well he takes care of his team

So I think removing Jessica would make far more sense than removing Nazgul, although I'm not exactly calling for her necessary removal (if she indeed provides essential qualities to SlayerS). She just needs to be careful with how she presents herself and SlayerS through her Twitter and other online forums/ media avenues.

But this is because Nazgul/TL is a western team, hence their actions and decisions would seem to make 100 times more sense because they have the same values as us. Slayers is different, and as some people have already pointed out, the Korean community don't see what the big deal with this is


Good point. Does the Korean community find Dragon to be very much at fault? Otherwise, I'm not sure why the repeated jabs at Dragon by Jessica would be found acceptable as opposed to "Okay we get it; it's time to let it go and move on".


That's not even true. Most of Koreans were not seeing the big deal... before she started to tell everyone to fuck off and starting to pretty much insult trolls or peoples randomly on twitter. Now that she is going outrage... (the one that translated, in this post, is Korean... and he told us that he tought that she was out of her mind) the foreigner opinion is even worst... and the Korean one is tainted a bit, too.
yellowmoe
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada59 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 15:47:36
March 08 2012 15:46 GMT
#434
I reading this thread and I am realizing why many foreigners in my university, koreans in particular, generally don't hang out with the natives (even though hanging out with the natives would improve their English). Besides communication, foreigners and the natives have different cultures which clash with one another and so it is difficult to get ones point across.

I can get an example, where one of my friends had group project with a native but his group member didn't work hard enough for my friend's expectation and so there was a lot of fighting. This is only through my experience though, so it may be different with other areas, but I am seeing lots of culture differences it in this forum.
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
March 08 2012 15:47 GMT
#435
Jessica should just grow up. Dragon left months ago, clean and simple. It's not even close to being like a Puma thing where one can see why someone would be ticked off.
Qiox
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 15:50:42
March 08 2012 15:48 GMT
#436
On March 09 2012 00:43 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:38 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!

But you DON"T know what Dragon said to Jessica or what went on between them. What if Dragon went up to Jessica and said "Hey i'm NEVER going to be a pro gamer again"?


So what? Since when is a persons plans today something that cannot ever change? How can you possibly ask that as if it were a meaningful question? Having his plans change does not make him a liar. It makes him someone who changed his plans. When he said it he meant it. When he changed his mind, he is again doing what he means to do. To try and twist this into an issue of dishonesty on his part is both dishonest and childishly stupid on her part.
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
March 08 2012 15:52 GMT
#437
On March 09 2012 00:38 Qiox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!


Thats why people communicate. Depending on what Dragon said to Jessica when he left Slayers, the scale can tip to either side to further reinforce their point of view.

If he said he would NEVER play sc2 professionally again and focus on his job as he left, a nice gesture maybe would be to tell jessica that he changed his mind and will be looking for a foreign team. Unneeded, but it would have been a nice and mature gesture to at least inform Jessica since the SC2 professional community is pretty small and averted this PR shitfest.

But if he said he would play sc2 as a hobby and keep his options open regarding foreign teams as he is unsure of what he wanted, i dont think Jessica would be in such an outrage now (as evidenced by her quoting golden and sleep).

Hence my comment that we cant judge as outsiders. We can only speculate. But nothing wrong to have opinions. I have mine and you have yours, and its enlightening to see your PoV.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
March 08 2012 15:53 GMT
#438
On March 09 2012 00:48 Qiox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:43 Fubi wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:38 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!

But you DON"T know what Dragon said to Jessica or what went on between them. What if Dragon went up to Jessica and said "Hey i'm NEVER going to be a pro gamer again"?


So what? Since when is a persons plans today something that cannot ever change? How can you possibly ask that as if it were a meaningful question? Having his plans change does not make him a liar. It makes him someone who changed his plans. When he said it he meant it. When he changed his mind, he is again doing what he means to do. To try and twist this into an issue of dishonesty on his part is both dishonest and childishly stupid on her part.

By your arguments, no one can ever be a liar then?
"Hey hunnie, I promised I'll never cheat on you"
*cheats*
"I didn't lie, i just changed my mind lolz"
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 16:07:22
March 08 2012 16:06 GMT
#439
On March 09 2012 00:53 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:48 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:43 Fubi wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:38 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!

But you DON"T know what Dragon said to Jessica or what went on between them. What if Dragon went up to Jessica and said "Hey i'm NEVER going to be a pro gamer again"?


So what? Since when is a persons plans today something that cannot ever change? How can you possibly ask that as if it were a meaningful question? Having his plans change does not make him a liar. It makes him someone who changed his plans. When he said it he meant it. When he changed his mind, he is again doing what he means to do. To try and twist this into an issue of dishonesty on his part is both dishonest and childishly stupid on her part.

By your arguments, no one can ever be a liar then?
"Hey hunnie, I promised I'll never cheat on you"
*cheats*
"I didn't lie, i just changed my mind lolz"


*Make a retarded comparison that makes ABSOLUTLY no senses, and think that he is actually smart*

So, basically, If I leave my job, telling my boss that I'm going back to school... but, while going back to school, someone offer me a better job than what I had before, so I accept it... that makes me a fucking liar and my old boss should talk shit publicly about me on twitter to the world?

Because THAT is a comparison that makes senses. Your cheating bullshit is not. While he had the choice between Slayers and Working, since he was not even in the team house and was having ZERO salary, he decided to leave the scene. Then, he got an offer from a foreign team, an actual salary... And he can't change is mind because else, he is a fucking liar? That's what you are telling?
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 16:22:47
March 08 2012 16:19 GMT
#440
On March 09 2012 01:06 Xalorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:53 Fubi wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:48 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:43 Fubi wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:38 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:35 Ryukku wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:31 Qiox wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:24 Ryukku wrote:...... snip.....

Lying and abandoning your family for money and self profit is a bad thing and would therefore explain why jessica is all angry and flared up about it.

.... snip.....


That could make sense if the part about lying were known to be true. But it's not. It's just made up bullshit that Jessica has deciding to believe and use as a basis for throwing insults. She is acting like a child who does not understand or care about the difference between knowing the truth and just making shit up.


Haha that one is beyond any of us to comment. We never knew what actually was said. Its dragon's word against jessica's. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there.

My personal opinion is that private affairs should be kept private instead of airing it on twitter, but i can see where jessica is coming from.


How can you possibly said it's between dragon's word and jessica's word? Jessica can't possibly know which version is true. Who cares what she has to say. The only person who knows what is true is dragon. To give any thought to what she has to say is ridiculous!

But you DON"T know what Dragon said to Jessica or what went on between them. What if Dragon went up to Jessica and said "Hey i'm NEVER going to be a pro gamer again"?


So what? Since when is a persons plans today something that cannot ever change? How can you possibly ask that as if it were a meaningful question? Having his plans change does not make him a liar. It makes him someone who changed his plans. When he said it he meant it. When he changed his mind, he is again doing what he means to do. To try and twist this into an issue of dishonesty on his part is both dishonest and childishly stupid on her part.

By your arguments, no one can ever be a liar then?
"Hey hunnie, I promised I'll never cheat on you"
*cheats*
"I didn't lie, i just changed my mind lolz"


*Make a retarded comparison that makes ABSOLUTLY no senses, and think that he is actually smart*

So, basically, If I leave my job, telling my boss that I'm going back to school... but, while going back to school, someone offer me a better job than what I had before, so I accept it... that makes me a fucking liar and my old boss should talk shit publicly about me on twitter to the world?

Because THAT is a comparison that makes senses. Your cheating bullshit is not. While he had the choice between Slayers and Working, since he was not even in the team house and was having ZERO salary, he decided to leave the scene. Then, he got an offer from a foreign team, an actual salary... And he can't change is mind because else, he is a fucking liar? That's what you are telling?

Thats what we've been saying this whole time though, the Koreans don't see the team as a "job", to them it's like a family.

So if you want a better comparison, then it's more like your family has a business and you're there to help out, but then you say you're going to quit and go to school and not gona work again. Then you suddenly decided to work for another business cuz they pay you better.

You are free to "change your mind" but if you look at it from Jessica's point of view, it's definitely a lie.

edit* and my other comparison, while exaggerated, brings up a point: so when is it a "lie" instead of a "I changed my mind" ?
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