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No overlapping of orb drama. Keep the two topics separate. People bringing the orb discussion over to this thread will be warned/banned (starting on page 25*).
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
March 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#321
Why can't people just be happy with the success of others - Dragon was going nowhere on SlayerS and now he's on a successful international team and will be attending foreign events.

It is so petty to come out and insult him in public, Jessica needs some business acumen training so she doesn't put her foot in her mouth again and ruin SlayerS' reputation.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:08:33
March 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#322
On March 08 2012 08:05 OBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:09 johnnywup wrote:
jessica needs to stop responding publicly to this stuff >_>

Jessica needs to shut the fuck up. This attitude is ridiculous.


calm down

On March 08 2012 07:28 LuciferSC wrote:
Let me add one more thing.

For those of you blindly accusing her of doing bad PR, while I am not 100% sure (being lived outside of Korea for about 20 years) how much more acceptable her action would be to the Koreans living in Korea, keep in mind that Jessica is someone living in Korea, managing a Korean team that has its base deeply rooted in Korean tradition and mentality.

Her utmost priority is to manage the team in the most efficient way, which is to manage it in Korean way, and if that causes displeasing the foreign fans, so be it.



this is something people need to consider before posting.
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
March 07 2012 23:09 GMT
#323
On March 08 2012 08:05 OBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:09 johnnywup wrote:
jessica needs to stop responding publicly to this stuff >_>

Jessica needs to shut the fuck up. This attitude is ridiculous.

I second this
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
March 07 2012 23:11 GMT
#324
Ok, I think everyone understands there is a difference in our cultures. But when you bring the situation TO teamliquid, you have to expect people to be angry when she says stuff like: "The fact that we had a liar like you on the team is embarrassing", or "Why am I doing this?". These are very cold-hearted words for a community of like-minded gamers, and as such it causes drama/ complaining from the community (as much as I would like there to be no threads like this in the first place..).
fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
March 07 2012 23:12 GMT
#325
I thought I got rid of the daytime drama shows when I got rid of tv..I guess tl has now become one of those recently :/
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iwearcapes
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
France157 Posts
March 07 2012 23:19 GMT
#326
On March 08 2012 08:09 RastaMonsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:05 OBC wrote:
On March 07 2012 17:09 johnnywup wrote:
jessica needs to stop responding publicly to this stuff >_>

Jessica needs to shut the fuck up. This attitude is ridiculous.

I second this


amen bro
Treetop
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States140 Posts
March 07 2012 23:20 GMT
#327
I'm wondering if someone can explain what Jessica or Boxer really did for Dragon. I'm not being sarcastic or an ass, I'm genuinely curious. Sure, he got to put the SlayerS tag in front of his name after he screwed up early in the game's life. However, he never lived in the SlayerS house aside from very brief stints for Code A qualifiers. If he had any salary at all it had to be minuscule as he still had to work at the shipyard for money.

If anyone has anymore insight on how Dragon was raised by Jessica, I'd be really interested to hear and could help shed light on why she is upset yet again.
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:28:15
March 07 2012 23:20 GMT
#328
I'd understand if she was some random girl tweeting about her life, but shes a team manager and going all drama about this kind of things doesn't look good at all...
DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 05:43:49
March 07 2012 23:21 GMT
#329
I don't think this needed a seperate thread.

But whatever, aren't some of you guys from the USA? Jessica has a right to voice her opinions. I don't get why her doing so offends people. I've never heard any horror stories telling me that SlayerS have an internal dark side, they don't mistreat their players - they treat them like family.

So Boxer / Jessica's team's word (as people keep pointing out, she represents the team) vs a proven stream cheater and liar? Who's side, if I had to take one (which I don't, who care's seriously), do you think you should take?

She's right, Dragon is an ungrateful traitorous brat. Calling a spade a spade. Leopard and spots and all that, cheater grows into a liar.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 07 2012 23:29 GMT
#330
There need to be more players in Korea leaving their team and joining others. So that managers etc. finally understand that the players are neither their property nor part of the family or whatever. It is just a team, not more and not less.
And as long as there is no contract that says otherwise players are free to leave their team at any time.
Off-season = best season
_PI
Profile Joined July 2010
United States60 Posts
March 07 2012 23:39 GMT
#331
On March 08 2012 08:29 Redox wrote:
There need to be more players in Korea leaving their team and joining others. So that managers etc. finally understand that the players are neither their property nor part of the family or whatever. It is just a team, not more and not less.
And as long as there is no contract that says otherwise players are free to leave their team at any time.


I'm certain something like this has been said before in this thread, but it's an important point to drill home: Not every culture is like yours (or mine). The Korean (asian in general) culture is much different from conventional Western culture, and there is more of a family-like social structure in things that we would have a different structure. Heck, it's not even specific to Korea. Japanese companies has long been known for the difference in their employee-employer relationship, specifically with regards to employee/employer loyalty.

People here are interpreting her personal statements regarding this situation as something more than they are. This is a personal reaction to something Dragon did. It's not much different from someone in the Western world saying they felt like they got stabbed in the back because someone left their organization and joined a competitor the next week. Anyone who says they don't feel at least a bit betrayed didn't value that person to begin with.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 07 2012 23:39 GMT
#332
I think moves like this are looked down upon in Korea so she has her right to voice her opinion to fans/sleep/golden if she wants.
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[Erasmus]
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia286 Posts
March 07 2012 23:40 GMT
#333
On March 08 2012 08:21 DaemonX wrote:Dragon is an ungrateful brat. Calling a spade a spade.

You mean Slayers weren't paying him a lot or even playing him in leagues and stuff? So he figures he will leave, with the -intention- to not pursue programing any more after this experience.

Then another team sees him leave and goes "wait a sec, this guy is actually sick good, we should pick him up and give him a chance how he's teamless", and encourages him out of retirement. The fact someone else jumped on this oppurtunity doesn't mean Dragon misrepresented himself to Slayers.

I don't know if any of this is fact, but Jessica is not giving any basis to her ranting. We don't know for sure when Millienium started showing interest in Dragon. If someone can prove it's before he announced he was leaving Slayers, Jessica might have a point, but idk.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 07 2012 23:42 GMT
#334
Jessica seems a bit obsessive about this type of thing. Even for korean standards it's a bit odd. No disrespect meant here, I just mean to say that her behaviour is a bit on the extreme side of things.
Avril_Lavigne
Profile Joined April 2010
United States446 Posts
March 07 2012 23:44 GMT
#335
On March 08 2012 08:29 Redox wrote:
There need to be more players in Korea leaving their team and joining others. So that managers etc. finally understand that the players are neither their property nor part of the family or whatever. It is just a team, not more and not less.
And as long as there is no contract that says otherwise players are free to leave their team at any time.


So you're saying that we should enforced the way we see and grasp business as on to them because their cultural influences on teams and business etc is wrong and we're right? ok..........
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
March 07 2012 23:54 GMT
#336
On March 07 2012 17:30 dearyuna wrote:
I do not disagree with Jessica's feelings, however I do disagree with her actions.
I understand why she has her feelings of betrayal, but this is definitely not the way to go about it.
In the tweet with Violet she mentions how she's scared about how Dragon's actions in the foreign scene might possibly hurt SlayerS reputation... however her ranting is hurting their reputation as well. It creates unnecessary drama, in my opinion.


I have to agree with this..but also have to bring in the cultural differences when talking about her actions of thinking he was one of her own. Bleh..I hope this drama blows over and everything can go back to normal.
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
x6.Chouji
Profile Joined February 2011
United States84 Posts
March 07 2012 23:55 GMT
#337
On March 08 2012 08:40 [Erasmus] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:21 DaemonX wrote:Dragon is an ungrateful brat. Calling a spade a spade.

You mean Slayers weren't paying him a lot or even playing him in leagues and stuff? So he figures he will leave, with the -intention- to not pursue programing any more after this experience.

Then another team sees him leave and goes "wait a sec, this guy is actually sick good, we should pick him up and give him a chance how he's teamless", and encourages him out of retirement. The fact someone else jumped on this oppurtunity doesn't mean Dragon misrepresented himself to Slayers.

I don't know if any of this is fact, but Jessica is not giving any basis to her ranting. We don't know for sure when Millienium started showing interest in Dragon. If someone can prove it's before he announced he was leaving Slayers, Jessica might have a point, but idk.


Wait I specificaly remember reading about Dragon leaving Slayers to pursue a foreign team. And on his stream he is constantly vying for attention and asking questions about foreign teams. Retirement my butt, he couldn't get on the B team and he felt like he would have better chances outside. That's great. But being too much of a pussy to tell the people who gave him his first chance after he ruined his own image by cheating? That means he is a child. And Jessica is specifically scolding...a child.

What confuses me is how noone can see her point? He could just apologize and say he is sorry and that he was too much of a coward to tell his team the truth. And that would be the end of it. No need for you nubs to come out and cry for him, ok?
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. - Chinese Proverb
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 07 2012 23:58 GMT
#338
On March 08 2012 08:44 Avril_Lavigne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:29 Redox wrote:
There need to be more players in Korea leaving their team and joining others. So that managers etc. finally understand that the players are neither their property nor part of the family or whatever. It is just a team, not more and not less.
And as long as there is no contract that says otherwise players are free to leave their team at any time.


So you're saying that we should enforced the way we see and grasp business as on to them because their cultural influences on teams and business etc is wrong and we're right? ok..........

What? I did not say we should do anything. You seem to be kinda confused.
Off-season = best season
DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
March 08 2012 00:12 GMT
#339
Wow.. just wow.. there is waaaay too much drama in this community, and jessica doesn't understand it obviously. Its like the press for Movie stars anything seen public will make drama.. It will just hurt her more..
boxturtle
Profile Joined December 2011
United States224 Posts
March 08 2012 00:19 GMT
#340
Dragon lied, end of story. I'm happy for him, but isn't it a tad weird that he's the only one that was leaving to try to find a foreign team that lied?
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