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BarCraft 'Intro to Starcraft' Handout - Page 5

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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
February 28 2012 18:38 GMT
#81
These are great!

Possible suggestion: If it wouldn't add too much to the presentation (ideally you want to keep it simple so people aren't overwhelmed by the introduction), it would be nice if you give a small introduction to the scene outside of the game. I.e., address Korean dominance, popular/large tournaments, how teams and sponsors help players succeed, etc.

A lot of people I've talked to that have never encountered eSports thinks it's astonishing anybody could get paid to play a video game. It might help bridge the gap if we could address how the infrastructure works and why there is a market for these players.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
February 28 2012 18:43 GMT
#82
This is incredibly well made. Nice job sir.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 28 2012 18:43 GMT
#83
nicely done. thanks for the hard work!
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
February 28 2012 18:44 GMT
#84
Seems that it could be very useful. Will be great to find out after GSL Code S finals to see how useful it was to the uninitiated.
Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
February 28 2012 18:45 GMT
#85
Oh my goodness, this is absolutely amazing! Tbh, I felt like the third page was had a tad bit too much jargon, but this is an awesome product. Great job guys!
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
February 28 2012 18:47 GMT
#86
Nice work dudes, good stuff.
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SonKiE
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
February 28 2012 18:55 GMT
#87
Really well made, great job.
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Salix
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand16 Posts
February 28 2012 19:09 GMT
#88
This is a really good idea. I think for people who don't even know what an RTS is, it's still going to be too complicated and loaded with terminology that is used in unusual ways for non sc2 players.
Moony
Profile Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
February 28 2012 19:13 GMT
#89
These are awesome, though I believe that they can be somewhat refined. Thanks!
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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
February 28 2012 19:52 GMT
#90
We already had one at barcraft vienna, and it is a very good idea. Yours does look nice too, though.
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BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
February 28 2012 19:55 GMT
#91
High quality, and I love all of the images with the armies! :D
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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
February 28 2012 20:26 GMT
#92
A lot of the feedback here is extremely valid. We'll get working on the next iteration of this immediately.

Translation?

Ah... Unfortunately, only the first and fourth pages could be translated, as something got mangled with the 2nd and 3rd page text layers in my photoshop Perhaps translations could wait until a better version of this idea is released?

On February 29 2012 01:19 SupLilSon wrote:
Really good Idea, it's funny that it's still 4 pages though, damn starcraft why are you so complicated??

Have you guys toyed with the idea of making an educational video? Like a 5 minute presentation on SC2. Just play it before barcraft starts?


Bottom of the first post xD This was the original plan, but we found it was taking longer than expected so I whipped this up in the meantime.

On February 29 2012 02:25 willoc wrote:
Well done. I think the info in this pamphlet is the perfect amount to start. A second 'advanced' pamphlet could be made up with more info for people who ar still curious after the first one. I would make the second pamphlet go into each race and it's units (show-casing a tactic or ability from each). Stuff like Mules, Stalker Blink, Muta stacking, Blue Flame Hellions, etc.


Exactly our thoughts/plans! High-five buddy! This is the logical progression.

On February 29 2012 02:28 JustPassingBy wrote:
A very good idea and the handout does look great. Could you guys also make one that kind of introduces you to the scene, to promote upcoming barcrafts?


This might get abit unwieldy haha, how many handouts do you give someone new to the scene? It might be a tad overwhelming. Nevertheless, might be helpful to have these as people leave the venue, if they're interested they can pick it up and it allows them to read up and get sucked into the world of Starcraft... We'll see!


On February 29 2012 02:33 petrie911 wrote:
I think a sheet that has a picture of each unit, its name, and maybe a quick blurb about what it does would be helpful. That way, whenever a caster mentions, say, Stalkers, the person can just look at the sheet and know which unit he's talking about.


Basically a SC2 reference guide? Not a bad idea, but I feel like most of the units are inherently obvious in their roles and functions (except for when some key upgrades are introduced) so I'm not sure how useful this would be. Another thing to consider though, throw it on the pile ^_^

On February 29 2012 00:38 xSixGeneralHan wrote:
Anyone from USA, print in letter form. Not all printers have A4 paper etc, it's not our standard size.


Ah, wasn't aware of this. Sorry :<


On February 29 2012 02:31 branflakes14 wrote:
If someone doesn't know much about something, the last thing they want is being bombarded with pages of information because they asked one simple question on a whim. I get the feeling you might scare away more people than you get interested in the game.


I sincerely hope this isn't the case. It was kept short because of this reason, and except for the last page the amount of text is incredibly low, mostly just nice pictures. We'll see if it works out!

On February 29 2012 03:38 ZasZ. wrote:
These are great!

Possible suggestion: If it wouldn't add too much to the presentation (ideally you want to keep it simple so people aren't overwhelmed by the introduction),


This is a pretty popular sentiment, absolutely worth including in the next iteration although it'd have to be dastardly simple. We'll see how it goes!
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 28 2012 20:28 GMT
#93
Sami you so clever.

Now to consider: Do I show the girl I'm bringing who has no idea about SC2 this sheet, or just have fun with her knowing nothing so that when I video her reactions to the GSL finals it'll be pure with no former knowledge... Hmmm...
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 28 2012 20:30 GMT
#94
love it

really nice work and a nice idea

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Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
February 28 2012 21:12 GMT
#95
Great handout. Had a quick read and it all made perfect sense
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Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 28 2012 21:42 GMT
#96
thats the best introduction to starcraft that our planet has seen yet! awesome!
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
caneras
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
433 Posts
February 28 2012 21:47 GMT
#97
This is such a good idea. So glad someone did this.
Trolle
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Sweden227 Posts
February 28 2012 21:53 GMT
#98
Printing one for my girlfriend!
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Moda
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway60 Posts
February 28 2012 22:01 GMT
#99
Love this so much, I could never have made a better one myself! Do you think you can upload the photoshop/raw project files so that I can translate it to Norwegian for events in my country? (Im sure alot of other could translate it to their own language as well)
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Goblinoid
Profile Joined February 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 22:06:05
February 28 2012 22:05 GMT
#100
Totally awesome! Some suggestions (because I get way to into this sort of thing):
• Racial descriptions are a little weird, try these: Terran: Versatile and persistent humans; Protoss: Advanced and powerful psychic aliens; Zerg: Legions of swarming insectoid predators
• The "secure, expand, raise" points are okay, but I could see a couple changes - 1. Change "Expand your base" to "Construct your base" - 2. maybe add arrows between the points, to show the path of gather/build/army
• the "gg" section feels so tiny! - add a little explanation there and enlarge the in-game text
• Crank up the opacity on the background of the boxes or something so we can see the units better. Maybe try giving the unit layer a drop shadow (1-2px distance, 0-1px size). Right now I know some new ppl will not understand these diagrams.
• Finally, maybe use max settings for the pics of the racial units at the beginning?

Sorry for being so suggesty! I love your work and will definitely see about sharing it at MNBarcraft!
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