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Kohonski
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States150 Posts
February 28 2012 15:36 GMT
#281
Katu was out of line, but I think everyone is way too quick to start a $#!^storm over it. This has been blown out of proportion. Definitely don't agree with the comments made during casts but it isn't the huge deal everyone is making it out to be.
Now we are both in the club of "people who caught mice and asked IRC what to do". Mine was caught face first on a glue trap though, but his back legs were free and he was pushing the trap all over my house. I ended up drowning him. - Lemonwalrus
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
February 28 2012 15:36 GMT
#282
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
February 28 2012 15:37 GMT
#283
On February 29 2012 00:18 LuckyFool wrote:
Ahhh Katu.... T.T


Gesundheit
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 15:37 GMT
#284
On February 29 2012 00:23 minimalistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:21 zefreak wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt?


That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system

Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating?



Could you please read this carefully?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

TLDR:
The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law"


Yeah, thats kind of my point.. are you responding to me or the guy i quoted?
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NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 15:39:59
February 28 2012 15:38 GMT
#285
I actually feel really bad for "Bonk" in this situation. I don't know the guy, but he definitely seemed to be trying to show as much class as possible, as he knew for sure that Katu was in the wrong while saying all this stuff. Katu seemed to be acting very knowing at the time of releasing all this information, very risky for someone in his position to do knowing that he's dealing with some one like Dragon...
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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
February 28 2012 15:39 GMT
#286
On February 29 2012 00:36 Chill wrote:
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.

I couldn't agree more. We can't have everybody walking on eggshells, it will take all the fun out of it and nobody will want to volunteer. The Playhem guys work so hard, and Katu spent just about every night casting on this tournament, and doing the EU one in the daytime also sometimes.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 15:42:23
February 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#287
On February 29 2012 00:36 Chill wrote:
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.

Bingo! You are absolutely right.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
February 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#288
On February 28 2012 21:36 Toppp wrote:
Haha, all this unnecessary drama stirred up by a Dragons fanboys. Can't believe how upset Dragon's fanboys get over the most simple shit.. why they care so much I probably will never know.. It's not a big deal, doesn't matter at all. It's a playhem daily, seriously.

Not to mention the caster(s) don't represent the views of playhem.


I hate most Terran players and never care about any of them, but seriously, you do NOT show that kind of disrespect to any player.
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Mouz.Lee
Profile Joined February 2010
United States43 Posts
February 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#289
Dragon admitted either maphacking/streamcheating/or fixing matches?
If this is the case why is he still in tournaments? There must be better candidates than some1 who admitted guilt
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13403 Posts
February 28 2012 15:42 GMT
#290
On February 29 2012 00:36 Chill wrote:
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.


Seriously. I don't know how much more I could add to this
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KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
February 28 2012 15:42 GMT
#291
wouldn't be shocked if katu did this, played him in first round of that frag for mental health tournament and he was extremely bad manner the second he wasn't behind a stream.

I was shocked considering he seemed somewhat chill as a caster.
Doom Guy
viOLetFanClub
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)390 Posts
February 28 2012 15:42 GMT
#292
On February 29 2012 00:36 Chill wrote:
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.

Isn't that a good thing if said volunteer is horrible at casting?
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
February 28 2012 15:44 GMT
#293
On February 29 2012 00:42 k1mjee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:36 Chill wrote:
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.

Isn't that a good thing if said volunteer is horrible at casting?


You're missing the point.

You're assuming that they will replace him at all, or with someone of "better" quality.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 15:44 GMT
#294
On February 29 2012 00:39 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:36 Chill wrote:
Thousands of viewers without sin casting the first stones...

What he did was wrong, but if you keep doing this to your volunteers, your community will soon run out of them.

I couldn't agree more. We can't have everybody walking on eggshells, it will take all the fun out of it and nobody will want to volunteer. The Playhem guys work so hard, and Katu spent just about every night casting on this tournament, and doing the EU one in the daytime also sometimes.


Are you guys serious? It's one thing to talk about playstyle and strategy. Ridicule his eco cheese all you want, I don't care and that kind of analysis is perfectly fine in my opinion. I like it when people like Artosis actually say what they think about strategies. However, talking about someones character is OBVIOUSLY crossing the line and I can't believe anyone would think that is acceptable. He implied that Dragon was stream cheating and even spread false information about Dragon being kicked out of SlayerS.

Some people are overreacting, but you guys are severely under-reacting.
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Mouz.Lee
Profile Joined February 2010
United States43 Posts
February 28 2012 15:45 GMT
#295
No1 deserves to be Slandered. Truth isnt slander>if some1 isnt scouting but knows what to counter the enemy(streamcheating most likely). If he scouted and just plain outmicro opponent that is another thing. Just watch the replays and you will know.
joebang
Profile Joined December 2010
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 15:52:10
February 28 2012 15:45 GMT
#296
i had no idea this was going on last night sadly because i was watchign dragons stream all night and i saw no signs of stream cheating or anything negative
and after watching the stream part about dragon cheating... not to be offensive but maybe we need more able qualified castors that actually know what they're talking about don't seem biased or racist to the races because thats what i heard on the stream about terrans and floating ccs...
and for the record dragon was lagging because i saw it on the stream.
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
February 28 2012 15:45 GMT
#297
Oh my god! SC2 community has the heart of a glass-maiden O.o

Get over it!
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Knighthawkbro
Profile Joined August 2011
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 15:48:02
February 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#298
This whole drama was not worth my time, way blown out of proportion. Chat can be unrelenting to casters, but these accusations were not that bad. Love Dragon but this cheap shot wasn't as bad as it was everyone is saying. His facts were wrong, he technically didn't accuse anything, and he apologized so it shouldn't cost someone their job when there are worse injustices in the sc2 world.
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -George Carlin
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
February 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#299
Really shouldn't slate players like that. Totally unprofessional...
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Taiki
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway57 Posts
February 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#300
What Katu did wasn't right, but I'm still of the opinion that everyone deserves a second chance.
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