EPTThe caster deserves to get reprimanded for a few weeks at least for his "TERRIBLE TROLLING."
Playhem handling this perfectly...except the punishment for the caster....Bonk isn't in the red at all in this...only that diarrhea of the mouth KAtu.
PLayhem TV Disgrace Katu - Page 14
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HuKPOWA
United States1604 Posts
The caster deserves to get reprimanded for a few weeks at least for his "TERRIBLE TROLLING." Playhem handling this perfectly...except the punishment for the caster....Bonk isn't in the red at all in this...only that diarrhea of the mouth KAtu. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283608¤tpage=28#552 | ||
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Billd
Canada210 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote: seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really? Isn't it that fact that he was speculating/implying that Dragon was streamcheating during last nights match that has everyone in a frenzy? Another day, another negative event in sc2. I long for a time where we go one week without something ridiculous happening. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:12 ePLocust wrote: He wasn't just pointing out the history (which is a long time ago and rather irrelevant), he was implying that Dragon was stream cheating at that moment. He even got the history absolutely wrong and even if his intention was to troll the chat did he not consider how Dragon would feel when he hears about it? It's a very sensitive topic for him im sure and to hear it brought up in the middle of the playhem finals just because one of the casters doesn't like his playstyle and seems to have a grudge against him? There's no excuse really and he needs to apologize to Dragon and not just the viewers. Plus, the whole 'im not implying anything, i mean he might not be but hes done it before' thing is incredibly childish. Does he not know what implicit means? | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:10 Cokefreak wrote: Except he didn't tell the truth, apparently he didn't even know what he was talking about. Yes, Dragon has streamcheated, but he was not banned from anything because of it and he did not get kicked out of SlayerS because of it as it happened before he even joined SlayerS. caster about to be hated for life for making inaccurate statements then. he's definitely pissed off the thin skinned around the net | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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eXeJJu
Switzerland55 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:16 Billd wrote: Isn't it that fact that he was speculating/implying that Dragon was streamcheating during last nights match that has everyone in a frenzy? Another day, another negative event in sc2. I long for a time where we go one week without something ridiculous happening. that is true he cant make such allegations without any proof, but there really was some suspicious move, like dragon going right for marine tank when there is an early roach agression by zerg ( he didnt scout anything, lifted his factory to make helions but suddenly changed his mind and went for tank marine) anyway what my point is there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt? this kind of thing can go both way. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:16 Chunhyang wrote: caster about to be hated for life for making inaccurate statements then. he's definitely pissed off the thin skinned around the net You don't bring up a finalist's past mistakes during the middle of the tournament for no reason than to denigrate the player and his fans, ESPECIALLY if you don't even have the facts right. The caster was trying to shame one of the players in the finals. And people were upset that Artosis wasn't giving MKP enough respect in the MLG finals.. The outrage from this event is absolutely justified. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8096 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote: that is true he cant make such allegations without any proof, but there really was some suspicious move, like dragon going right for marine tank when there is an early roach agression by zerg ( he didnt scout anything, lifted his factory to make helions but suddenly changed his mind and went for tank marine) anyway what my point is there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt? this kind of thing can go both way. How about 4100 people watching Dragon streaming the game, I'm pretty sure you can find it from his twitch.tv archive. If he was stream cheating then why in the hell would he have gone for triple orbital if he knew there was roach ling pressure coming? | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote: there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt? That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system  Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating? | ||
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minimalistic
Hungary157 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:21 zefreak wrote: That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating? Could you please read this carefully? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence TLDR: The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law" | ||
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eXeJJu
Switzerland55 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:21 Cokefreak wrote: dragon have double monitor.How about 4100 people watching Dragon streaming the game, I'm pretty sure you can find it from his twitch.tv archive. If he was stream cheating then why in the hell would he have gone for triple orbital if he knew there was roach ling pressure coming? | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8096 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:21 zefreak wrote: That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating? total offtopic but you can cheat and stream at same time. There are cheats that show you the production tab of your enemy. Just dont stream this window and noone knows... | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote: seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really? This is so true, he has an excellent mic and voice. He's very good at telling the story of a game. And I'm surprised this got him fired, he was pretty damn good from what I've heard from him. It's like you do a great job for a long time, mess up once, and get the axe. | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
for your enjoyment guys, here is the link once more DRAGON and about the Katu thing...yes, he went overboard and he should apologise and take a break from casting a bit... | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:16 Chunhyang wrote: caster about to be hated for life for making inaccurate statements then. he's definitely pissed off the thin skinned around the net When you make incorrect, accusatory statements to an audience of thousands of people there are consequences. I don't see how this should be a revelation to anyone. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:23 minimalistic wrote: Could you please read this carefully? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence TLDR: The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law" Implying that streamcheating is like a criminal offense? | ||
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