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HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
February 28 2012 15:14 GMT
#261
Oh God...i can't wait for the day Naniwa gets flamed for all his past BM and cheating....can't wait for that shitstorm

The caster deserves to get reprimanded for a few weeks at least for his "TERRIBLE TROLLING."

Playhem handling this perfectly...except the punishment for the caster....Bonk isn't in the red at all in this...only that diarrhea of the mouth KAtu.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
February 28 2012 15:14 GMT
#262
On February 28 2012 23:55 ePLocust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 23:54 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
After reading katu's apology i feel really sorry for the guy :-/ This has gotten way out of hand, now he probably wont be able to cast anything anymore :/

Where is his apology?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283608&currentpage=28#552
Billd
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada210 Posts
February 28 2012 15:16 GMT
#263
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?


Isn't it that fact that he was speculating/implying that Dragon was streamcheating during last nights match that has everyone in a frenzy?

Another day, another negative event in sc2. I long for a time where we go one week without something ridiculous happening.
@BilldSC I tweet about all things Starcraft 2!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 15:16 GMT
#264
On February 29 2012 00:12 ePLocust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?

He wasn't just pointing out the history (which is a long time ago and rather irrelevant), he was implying that Dragon was stream cheating at that moment.


He even got the history absolutely wrong and even if his intention was to troll the chat did he not consider how Dragon would feel when he hears about it? It's a very sensitive topic for him im sure and to hear it brought up in the middle of the playhem finals just because one of the casters doesn't like his playstyle and seems to have a grudge against him? There's no excuse really and he needs to apologize to Dragon and not just the viewers.

Plus, the whole 'im not implying anything, i mean he might not be but hes done it before' thing is incredibly childish. Does he not know what implicit means?
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
February 28 2012 15:16 GMT
#265
On February 29 2012 00:10 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?

Except he didn't tell the truth, apparently he didn't even know what he was talking about. Yes, Dragon has streamcheated, but he was not banned from anything because of it and he did not get kicked out of SlayerS because of it as it happened before he even joined SlayerS.


caster about to be hated for life for making inaccurate statements then.

he's definitely pissed off the thin skinned around the net
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 28 2012 15:18 GMT
#266
Ahhh Katu.... T.T
eXeJJu
Profile Joined December 2011
Switzerland55 Posts
February 28 2012 15:19 GMT
#267
On February 29 2012 00:16 Billd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?


Isn't it that fact that he was speculating/implying that Dragon was streamcheating during last nights match that has everyone in a frenzy?

Another day, another negative event in sc2. I long for a time where we go one week without something ridiculous happening.

that is true he cant make such allegations without any proof, but there really was some suspicious move, like dragon going right for marine tank when there is an early roach agression by zerg ( he didnt scout anything, lifted his factory to make helions but suddenly changed his mind and went for tank marine) anyway what my point is there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt? this kind of thing can go both way.
Dont do Tommorow what you can do today.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 28 2012 15:20 GMT
#268
Wow, that's just straight up biased bashing and definitely deserves this kind of apology. Good to see that Bonk didn't support him at least :/
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 15:20 GMT
#269
On February 29 2012 00:16 Chunhyang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:10 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?

Except he didn't tell the truth, apparently he didn't even know what he was talking about. Yes, Dragon has streamcheated, but he was not banned from anything because of it and he did not get kicked out of SlayerS because of it as it happened before he even joined SlayerS.


caster about to be hated for life for making inaccurate statements then.

he's definitely pissed off the thin skinned around the net


You don't bring up a finalist's past mistakes during the middle of the tournament for no reason than to denigrate the player and his fans, ESPECIALLY if you don't even have the facts right. The caster was trying to shame one of the players in the finals. And people were upset that Artosis wasn't giving MKP enough respect in the MLG finals.. The outrage from this event is absolutely justified.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 28 2012 15:21 GMT
#270
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:16 Billd wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?


Isn't it that fact that he was speculating/implying that Dragon was streamcheating during last nights match that has everyone in a frenzy?

Another day, another negative event in sc2. I long for a time where we go one week without something ridiculous happening.

that is true he cant make such allegations without any proof, but there really was some suspicious move, like dragon going right for marine tank when there is an early roach agression by zerg ( he didnt scout anything, lifted his factory to make helions but suddenly changed his mind and went for tank marine) anyway what my point is there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt? this kind of thing can go both way.

How about 4100 people watching Dragon streaming the game, I'm pretty sure you can find it from his twitch.tv archive. If he was stream cheating then why in the hell would he have gone for triple orbital if he knew there was roach ling pressure coming?
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 28 2012 15:21 GMT
#271
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt?


That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system

Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating?
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
minimalistic
Profile Joined August 2010
Hungary157 Posts
February 28 2012 15:23 GMT
#272
On February 29 2012 00:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt?


That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system

Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating?



Could you please read this carefully?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

TLDR:
The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law"
"A baby Gracken dies every time you use Ghost + Mech" -unknown chat user
eXeJJu
Profile Joined December 2011
Switzerland55 Posts
February 28 2012 15:23 GMT
#273
On February 29 2012 00:21 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:16 Billd wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?


Isn't it that fact that he was speculating/implying that Dragon was streamcheating during last nights match that has everyone in a frenzy?

Another day, another negative event in sc2. I long for a time where we go one week without something ridiculous happening.

that is true he cant make such allegations without any proof, but there really was some suspicious move, like dragon going right for marine tank when there is an early roach agression by zerg ( he didnt scout anything, lifted his factory to make helions but suddenly changed his mind and went for tank marine) anyway what my point is there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt? this kind of thing can go both way.

How about 4100 people watching Dragon streaming the game, I'm pretty sure you can find it from his twitch.tv archive. If he was stream cheating then why in the hell would he have gone for triple orbital if he knew there was roach ling pressure coming?
dragon have double monitor.
Dont do Tommorow what you can do today.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 15:26:29
February 28 2012 15:24 GMT
#274
I'm an idiot, not going to derail this thread any more.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
February 28 2012 15:25 GMT
#275
On February 29 2012 00:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt?


That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system

Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating?

total offtopic but you can cheat and stream at same time.
There are cheats that show you the production tab of your enemy. Just dont stream this window and noone knows...
Save gaming: kill esport
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 28 2012 15:26 GMT
#276
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?


This is so true, he has an excellent mic and voice. He's very good at telling the story of a game. And I'm surprised this got him fired, he was pretty damn good from what I've heard from him.

It's like you do a great job for a long time, mess up once, and get the axe.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
February 28 2012 15:29 GMT
#277
the thing that irritates me the most here is all the people who are saying that there is no proof that dragon was cheating BEFORE are unwilling to look into other posts which were quoted from liquidpedia about the dragon thing and than say that there are no credible sources about that...
for your enjoyment guys, here is the link once more DRAGON

and about the Katu thing...yes, he went overboard and he should apologise and take a break from casting a bit...
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 28 2012 15:29 GMT
#278
Wow, what a crappy situation. The response from Playhem was good, though, props to them.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
February 28 2012 15:30 GMT
#279
On February 29 2012 00:16 Chunhyang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:10 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:08 eXeJJu wrote:
seriously, katu is 1 of the best amateur caster around, and some of you guys want him fired? for telling the truth about his streamcheating history? really?

Except he didn't tell the truth, apparently he didn't even know what he was talking about. Yes, Dragon has streamcheated, but he was not banned from anything because of it and he did not get kicked out of SlayerS because of it as it happened before he even joined SlayerS.


caster about to be hated for life for making inaccurate statements then.

he's definitely pissed off the thin skinned around the net

When you make incorrect, accusatory statements to an audience of thousands of people there are consequences. I don't see how this should be a revelation to anyone.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
February 28 2012 15:34 GMT
#280
On February 29 2012 00:23 minimalistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 00:21 zefreak wrote:
On February 29 2012 00:19 eXeJJu wrote:
there is no proof that he did streamcheat, but is there any proof he didnt?


That's not how it works.. I'd hate to live in your legal system

Besides, how on earth would you prove that you AREN'T stream cheating?



Could you please read this carefully?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

TLDR:
The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law"


Implying that streamcheating is like a criminal offense?
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
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