MLG Arena and the TL Calendar - Page 39

On February 24 2012 14:53 gladsheim wrote:
so how long until this event starts?, im lost without the calender

On February 24 2012 14:56 L3gendary wrote:


Try, you know, MLG's website. They only have a giant countdown clock telling you when.

On February 24 2012 14:56 L3gendary wrote:


Try, you know, MLG's website. They only have a giant countdown clock telling you when.

On February 24 2012 14:53 gladsheim wrote:
so how long until this event starts?, im lost without the calender

On February 24 2012 14:56 L3gendary wrote:


Try, you know, MLG's website. They only have a giant countdown clock telling you when.

On February 24 2012 15:02 BoxingKangaroo wrote:


Strongly suspect their countdown clock doesn't take into consideration timezones. It's telling me 2.5 hrs which would give a start time of 5:30pm on the dot like they say. Too bad I live half a world away.

On February 24 2012 15:02 jmbthirteen wrote:

that clock is only correct if you live in EST btw

On February 24 2012 15:07 StarStruck wrote:


Well, we do go by KST and the event is in NYC. Why the heck wouldn't they go by the timezone they're in. ._.

On February 23 2012 15:15 lichter wrote:


So I did some computations to see if this is true.

According to my math:

GSL will have ~3,350 games this year (counted number of sets per season, multipled by 3 games for simplicity which I will hold consistent for MLG as well, and 5 seasons). A yearly monthly ticket for GSL/GSTL will cost $239.88. That's ~14 games per dollar, without including Off the Record, AoL, and other special tournaments which are included in Monthly Premium +.

MLG Arenas will have ~732 games (61 sets per tournament, 3 games per set like above, 4 seasons). The ticket for the whole year is $100 as you said. So that's 7.32 games per $1.

Based on number of games, GSL has almost twice as many games per dollar (without counting special events) than MLG.

Was bored at work so I was just curious about it :p

On February 24 2012 11:11 Dinosaur wrote:
I'd hardly call it advertising to provide a calendar slot for MLG . I'd see it as information. And as such I'd consider it as a disservice to the community not to list PPV events. In my oppinion the OP by Hotbid seems like a somewhat forced rationalization. If a PPV event wants real advertising they can buy a banner at the frontpage...right?

On February 24 2012 15:16 BoxingKangaroo wrote:


I think you misunderstand. It's not a clock as in 'This event starts at 5:30pm', its a countdown clock, as in 'This event starts in 10 hours'.

They screwed it up though. It looks like now it displays: EventStartTime - UsersLocalTime (not taking into account timezones). This will therefore be different depending on where you live. For me its about 2.5 hrs. That would have the event starting at about 3:30am in NYC.

On February 24 2012 15:53 Secret05 wrote:
Here's my opinion with this entire situation:

Let's first start with an example. Lets say I owned a jewelry manufacturing company, the only one in the world. I was a very successful company due to various reasons. In my company I produced three different types of jewelry: bronze, silver, and gold. In the whole world there was also only three mines that gathered/mined these minerals. The mines were named as follows, Bronzonian (mined the bronze minerals), Silverado (mined the silver minerals), and Goldtopia (mined the gold minerals). These were the only mines in the entire world and I was the only jewelry manufacturer in the whole world. The only reason they were in business was because I bought minerals from them and the only reason I was in business was because I had a supplier of these minerals. Our companies could only be prosperous if both of us were in business, without either the jewelry manufacturer or the mines the other companies would fail. With that being said, during our lifetime of business we would want to make sure that both the mines and the jewelry manufacturer were prosperous, because without each other cannot exist.

Now lets say the gold mine has a series natural disasters causing them to have more expenses than expected. Because of these expenses they will now probably have to charge more per carrot of gold. Now there's a fine line between what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable. As long as it's reasonably close to acceptable the jewelry manufacturer shouldn't have any problem with paying the extra cost to buy the gold. Because remember, if the gold mine goes out of business there is no other gold mines in the whole world and we would not be able to make gold jewelry ever again. So we can take the risk and not pay the gold miner more money, but if they go out of business because we were stingy and stupid then in turn we hurt our own business.

In business there are other businesses that play a key role in why you are in business. There are some businesses that are only around because other businesses are there and if one business were to fail then a whole series of businesses would then suffer. So in the business world it is important to plan for the future and to always remember that there are other businesses that you are counting on and there are businesses that are counting on you.

Now to my main point. Yes, I know that teamliquid has been around for a long time, but at the start of Starcraft 2 teamliquid changed itself from a hobby to a business. They now have headquarters and have actual paid employees. I feel like there are a few major factors that have put Team Liquid on the next level and made them a sustainable business including GomTV (GSL), Major League Gaming (MLG), Dreamhack, NASL, IPL, and of course the most important Blizzard, because without blizzard there wouldn't even be Starcraft 2. Now I feel like Team Liquid is hurting (not intentionally) MLG by not putting up the MLG Winter Arena event on the calendar and on the countdown timer. Now you might say who cares, we don't agree with MLG charging $20 per person to watch their event, but by hurting MLG Team Liquid is in turn hurting itself. Without MLG the North American Starcraft 2 scene is way different and many people would lose a tremendous amount of interest in the game (yes i know IPL is also in NA). MLG is like one of the mines in my example and Team Liquid is like the jewelry manufacturer. By not putting the MLG Winter Arena on the calendar and countdown Team Liquid is hurting MLG and is also indirectly hurting itself.

**I apologize for any grammar or spelling mistakes, I wrote this very fast and it's 2 am. I didn't reread this because I'm too tired so hopefully I made sense.

On February 24 2012 16:01 StarStruck wrote:


I cannot see that because I'm EST as well. :/

On February 24 2012 16:11 y0su wrote:


If the gold mine goes out of buisness someone else will take over...

On February 24 2012 16:17 aNDRoM wrote:


I don't even see the countdown. I go to the MLG site and a red banner at the top says "The MLG Winter Arena starts Feb 24 at 5:30pm ET! Watch the demo and get a pass"

On February 24 2012 16:21 BoxingKangaroo wrote:


They may have taken it down. It used to be on the right side of the page, but now I can't even see it.