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MLG open brackets, the most overrated things since SC2's launch (if you don't hit a Korean  ).
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would love to see stephano vs some of these teams...
anyway, when is this supposed to start?
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On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:On February 08 2012 07:01 Hydroxyl wrote:
Husky probably promised them to make an exclusive goodie bag review if Vile gets n°1, gotta give back those nerds what they need! You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones.
Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't.
Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success.
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On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:On February 08 2012 07:01 Hydroxyl wrote:
Husky probably promised them to make an exclusive goodie bag review if Vile gets n°1, gotta give back those nerds what they need! You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success.
Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets.
Oh and yeah those online cross server at times of the day that you won't probably expect team league games where I still can't find Vile on any podium finish nonetheless are a good and legit example of "achievements". Soon serious ladder business will come into the debate and I feel like your bag is full of youtube games casted by Husky and Psy to "prove" me wrong. Doom incoming.
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The EG MCSL is now on my Must Watch list. It's just going to be epic.
EG: doing it right.
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On February 08 2012 08:33 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:On February 08 2012 07:01 Hydroxyl wrote:
Husky probably promised them to make an exclusive goodie bag review if Vile gets n°1, gotta give back those nerds what they need! You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success. Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets.
I haven't read all your posts but your point is essentially X team is better so they deserve to win the poll/be in the team league right?
All of that is irrelevant. This is a community/popularity vote, the point isn't who deserves it most based on previous results. The point is who can market their team the best and effectively gain support from the community.
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On February 08 2012 08:42 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:33 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:On February 08 2012 07:01 Hydroxyl wrote:
Husky probably promised them to make an exclusive goodie bag review if Vile gets n°1, gotta give back those nerds what they need! You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success. Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets. I haven't read all your posts but your point is essentially X team is better so they deserve to win the poll/be in the team league right? All of that is irrelevant. This is a community/popularity vote, the point isn't who deserves it most based on previous results. The point is who can market their team the best and effectively gain support from the community.
Not even close, if you actually did. I'm not even mentionning anything about it lol.
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On February 08 2012 08:33 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:On February 08 2012 07:01 Hydroxyl wrote:
Husky probably promised them to make an exclusive goodie bag review if Vile gets n°1, gotta give back those nerds what they need! You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success. Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets. Oh and yeah those online cross server at times of the day that you won't probably expect team league games where I still can't find Vile on any podium finish nonetheless are a good and legit example of "achievements". Soon serious ladder business will come into the debate and I feel like your bag is full of youtube games casted by Husky and Psy to "prove" me wrong. Doom incoming.
Where are Millienium's team league results? They didn't even attempt to qualify for IPL TAC.
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I don't even know where this Vile vs Millenium debate came into play. The team that "most deserves" it is FXO, because they're the best team in that poll. Trying to argue anyone else deserves it more is just hypocritical.
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I don't see the point of having Korean teams in this. A foreigner will never get credit for a win against a korean online, those matches are to me completely irrelevant. Sure it could make for some good games but the competition is ruined.
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Holy shit, just woke up to see Vile in the number one spot. Thanks to everyone that voted, you guys are the best!
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On February 08 2012 08:46 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:33 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:On February 08 2012 07:01 Hydroxyl wrote:
Husky probably promised them to make an exclusive goodie bag review if Vile gets n°1, gotta give back those nerds what they need! You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success. Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets. Oh and yeah those online cross server at times of the day that you won't probably expect team league games where I still can't find Vile on any podium finish nonetheless are a good and legit example of "achievements". Soon serious ladder business will come into the debate and I feel like your bag is full of youtube games casted by Husky and Psy to "prove" me wrong. Doom incoming. Where are Millienium's team league results? They didn't even attempt to qualify for IPL TAC.
What are Vile's team league results? When I check IPL TAC1 I see top 3 QIM MOUZ COLMVP, when I check IPL TAC2 I see they them in looser bracket already after the first round. Man stop delusing yourself, is that seriously what you call results so far? I'm not selling them yet but if you have inside information about their future matches don't be so obvious when spoiling it over here, it's usually not well seen.
Also if you take online teamleagues results as actual achievements for a team over LAN achievements when Vile didn't win a single major event when Millenium, since you have something to go against it, won a MLG, an IPL, an ESWC, an EPS, an insomnia 44, add to this numerous french and polish lans, not talking about online local tournaments (same server, same frame time), there's no match if you ask me.
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On February 08 2012 08:52 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:33 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:12 NKaeris wrote:
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You've written some of the most hateful comments i've ever read on TL. They have no basis and seem to be written for the sole purpose of bringing down Vile. Before you speak again, I'd suggest you do some research to back your claims. Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success. Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets. Oh and yeah those online cross server at times of the day that you won't probably expect team league games where I still can't find Vile on any podium finish nonetheless are a good and legit example of "achievements". Soon serious ladder business will come into the debate and I feel like your bag is full of youtube games casted by Husky and Psy to "prove" me wrong. Doom incoming. Where are Millienium's team league results? They didn't even attempt to qualify for IPL TAC. What are Vile's team league results? When I check IPL TAC1 I see top 3 QIM MOUZ COLMVP, when I check IPL TAC2 I see they them in looser bracket already after the first round. Man stop delusing yourself, is that seriously what you call results so far? I'm not selling them yet but if you have inside information about their future matches don't be so obvious when spoiling it over here, it's usually not well seen. Also if you take online teamleagues results as actual achievements for a team over LAN achievements when Vile didn't win a single event when Millenium, since you have something to go against it, won a MLG, an IPL, an ESWC, an EPS, numerous french and polish lans, not talking about online local tournaments (same server, same frame time), there's no match if you ask me.
who cares? as its been said before, this isn't a judge of talent. vile is far from being the best team in this poll (though they're not a bad team by any stretch), but more people would like to see vile play. Thats why they are winning. Maybe you disagree with some voters logic behind voting, and you're entitled to that opinion, but stirring up shit here isn't helping your cause.
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Wonder if vile would even be 3rd if they took out all the votes made by people without accounts and the people who voted multiple times?
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On February 08 2012 08:57 Clank wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 08:52 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:33 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 08:23 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 08:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:40 Hydroxyl wrote:On February 08 2012 07:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 08 2012 07:14 Hydroxyl wrote:
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Back off the guns kid, if you have a concern express it with proper arguments not ad hominem bullshit. What claims need more research from my part? Everything I said can be verified, if you're informed you won't have any problem to recognize it, but you didn't tell me which one of them is in the "wrong". Dude all you have done is bitch about Vile getting support from Husky. You took a jab at Spanishiwa too. Do you even realize that he has made it into the championship bracket at MLG Providence, the most stacked tournament outside of Korea? And do you know who knocked him out? His teammate Vile.Illusion. You don't have a clue about Vile or their players. Wow where do I take a jab at them if even you don't read it in the way you want people to believe? You seem to not deal well with their results and can't accept that they didn't go anywhere in the events you mentionned, and you try to give me a lesson about getting informed about Vile and their players? Did Spanishiwa placed higher in the sum of all the MLG he attended than Stephano's first shot? No and that's not "taking a jab" at him or "having no clue" if I state it the way it is. Why do you infere that getting into Championship bracket is even that of an achievement when the open bracket is plagued with players like Chance and Darkcell that didn't make it? Eventually they would meet each other and one would get the upper hand, nothing that difficult to figure out, it's mathematic, just look at the brackets you can find them on liquipedia. Now how do you see me having no clue when I have all the datas on the matter, and expressed them in an accurate fashion? You seem to have a deal with yourself if you have to reject on others the flaws from your delusive theory. Back on page 32 you say Spanishiwa is just hype. You seem to ignore their results. Yeah Stephano is good, everyone knows this. But that doesn't change the fact that Vile has some very good players on their roster as well. Getting to the Championship bracket at MLG Providence is impressive. Look at that bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence/ChampionshipBracketLook at Vile's recent team league results. Their qualifier for IPL TAC they beat MTW 4-0. Team Clash 5-2, imba.FXO 5-3, and Zenex (yeah the Korean Zenex) 5-1. NS HoSeo was in the qualifier but didnt make it far enough to play Vile. Then in the TAC, they felll 5-3 to FXO, and Illusion almost forced an ace match. Then they just beat Dignitas. Thats pretty damn impressive. What has Millenium done in team leagues? Yeah Spanishiwa is just hype, what results did he backed for the hype he gets? None, that doesn't mean he bad, that means he's wait I said, hype. And I'm nice to still give him this edge since he had already many MLG to prove it and didn't live up to it. As we both say, there are bracket available, but you read them differently than I do, so let's have a look at them, will you? He has beaten in Providence, the last one he participated and the one where his play was the most improved since he's been around for longer, KarmyRH, Buzzbin, PainUser, KawaiiRice, then lost to TLO, then beaten theognis, then lost to Illusion. Was it impressive? Not in any way, that line up is even worse than what you can find in weekly cups. Was it bad? Not. Doesn't take off my point, but don't make me say what I haven't for the mere sake of evilizing it. There's no need to be heavy hearted about it or overly exagerated in your expressions for the love of dramatic tones. Still made it to the championship bracket while some very good players didn't. Also nice of you to ignore Vile's team league success. Yeah because I am paid to educate yourself about every single misinformed point you make... not. And you should take the time to actually read what you're answering, it is getting absurd. If he made it to championship bracket and that some very good players didn't obviously don't say anything about the level between him and said very good players, it only comes down to how were drawn the brackets. Oh and yeah those online cross server at times of the day that you won't probably expect team league games where I still can't find Vile on any podium finish nonetheless are a good and legit example of "achievements". Soon serious ladder business will come into the debate and I feel like your bag is full of youtube games casted by Husky and Psy to "prove" me wrong. Doom incoming. Where are Millienium's team league results? They didn't even attempt to qualify for IPL TAC. What are Vile's team league results? When I check IPL TAC1 I see top 3 QIM MOUZ COLMVP, when I check IPL TAC2 I see they them in looser bracket already after the first round. Man stop delusing yourself, is that seriously what you call results so far? I'm not selling them yet but if you have inside information about their future matches don't be so obvious when spoiling it over here, it's usually not well seen. Also if you take online teamleagues results as actual achievements for a team over LAN achievements when Vile didn't win a single event when Millenium, since you have something to go against it, won a MLG, an IPL, an ESWC, an EPS, numerous french and polish lans, not talking about online local tournaments (same server, same frame time), there's no match if you ask me. who cares? as its been said before, this isn't a judge of talent. vile is far from being the best team in this poll (though they're not a bad team by any stretch), but more people would like to see vile play. Thats why they are winning. Maybe you disagree with some voters logic behind voting, and you're entitled to that opinion, but stirring up shit here isn't helping your cause.
But what makes you think it is about myself, I was just answering someone before you seemed to even come without caring to read what's going on over here about the topic. What's the deal you thinking you have a grip over what is my cause if I ever expressed having one here?
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oh shit Team vile is gonna make it!! getting hyped for this team league!
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People are upset because a popularity contest is being won by a team that has players that have popularity or supporters who are popular and using that popularity to win a popularity contest.
I don't see the problem.
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With less than an hour of polling, Vile is up by 500+ votes. Go Vile!
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On February 08 2012 09:02 Bobgrimly wrote:
People are upset because a popularity contest is being won by a team that has players that have popularity or supporters who are popular and using that popularity to win a popularity contest.
I don't see the problem.
exactly
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