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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 14:06:29
February 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#61
On February 01 2012 22:56 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:14 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:12 mTwTT1 wrote:
alot of the eu players have won like 40-50% of their winnings from online cups TT, na has shitty online cups compared to the eu scene.. since the release of the game ive played in like 3-4 online cups max


No one's stopping you from playing in our online cups, Payam


what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


I meant the EU cups, mate. The Zotacs and the Go4SC2s.


i cant even motivate myself to practice on the na ladder because it feels like blizzard has us locked up in a jail cell, do u srsly expect me to wake up at 7am to play in a cup with 200ms lag?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
February 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#62
I would be more interested in different size of e-sports market. What would be the total prize money in all NA tourney? EU? KR? Come on, players are traveling all around the world. Nationality of player is less interesting than the current market size of e-sports.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
February 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#63
On February 01 2012 21:39 Boonbag wrote:
We're just so rich we throw money at them like nothing

edit : its funny the EU total figures is like a little more than what Flash makes in a year

Yeah I totally know what you are saying switching would be profitable
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
February 01 2012 14:11 GMT
#64
On February 01 2012 21:45 MrBitter wrote:
I suspect that a lot of these statistics also hinge on that fact that the European tournament scene is a lot more active.

For every daily event in NA, EU has 2, and 500 euro weekly and monthly events are incredible common here, and these tourneys are almost exclusively played in, and thus won by Europeans.

Comparatively, the US has more "huge" events, but those are so seldom won my North Americans, and thus, don't really do much to help NA earnings.

and all those "huge" tournements arent won by na players most of the time....
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
February 01 2012 14:20 GMT
#65
On February 01 2012 23:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 22:56 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:14 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:12 mTwTT1 wrote:
alot of the eu players have won like 40-50% of their winnings from online cups TT, na has shitty online cups compared to the eu scene.. since the release of the game ive played in like 3-4 online cups max


No one's stopping you from playing in our online cups, Payam


what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


I meant the EU cups, mate. The Zotacs and the Go4SC2s.


i cant even motivate myself to practice on the na ladder because it feels like blizzard has us locked up in a jail cell, do u srsly expect me to wake up at 7am to play in a cup with 200ms lag?

Then the motivation is really the problem. Lots of sport players have way stricter schedules than that, and 7am is pretty common for any working person around the world (go quit SC2, pick up a normal job thats not totally next door, and Im pretty sure we're talking about close to those times).

Not to mention theres been several occasions where players have abided such times, Koreans in NASL come to mind.

I understand it might not be your cup of tea to do that, you might not play SC2 that serious, and theres nothing wrong in that. But you shouldnt downplay it like its something inhuman. If becoming among the best of the best at SC2 was truly your goal in life, getting up early when needed would be the least thing (and probably one of the easier requirements to comply to) expected of you.
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
February 01 2012 14:21 GMT
#66
On February 01 2012 23:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 22:56 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:14 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:12 mTwTT1 wrote:
alot of the eu players have won like 40-50% of their winnings from online cups TT, na has shitty online cups compared to the eu scene.. since the release of the game ive played in like 3-4 online cups max


No one's stopping you from playing in our online cups, Payam


what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


I meant the EU cups, mate. The Zotacs and the Go4SC2s.


i cant even motivate myself to practice on the na ladder because it feels like blizzard has us locked up in a jail cell, do u srsly expect me to wake up at 7am to play in a cup with 200ms lag?


You mean like Koreans do for most cups they're invited to?
Yes, I do!
What are you tinkering about?
aScaris
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany124 Posts
February 01 2012 14:22 GMT
#67
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


There is a ZOTAC cup every saturday as well (http://sc2na.zotac-cup.com/)! It is played under the same conditions as the EU cup, but there are much less players competing in it... I don't know why, but NA players don't seem to want to play in weekly cups :/
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 14:24:01
February 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#68
On February 01 2012 23:21 leandroqm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 23:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:56 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:14 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:12 mTwTT1 wrote:
alot of the eu players have won like 40-50% of their winnings from online cups TT, na has shitty online cups compared to the eu scene.. since the release of the game ive played in like 3-4 online cups max


No one's stopping you from playing in our online cups, Payam


what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


I meant the EU cups, mate. The Zotacs and the Go4SC2s.


i cant even motivate myself to practice on the na ladder because it feels like blizzard has us locked up in a jail cell, do u srsly expect me to wake up at 7am to play in a cup with 200ms lag?


You mean like Koreans do for most cups they're invited to?
Yes, I do!


those are invitationals that have huge prizepools ^^, im talking about weekly cups : ]
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
February 01 2012 14:25 GMT
#69
On February 01 2012 23:22 aScaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


There is a ZOTAC cup every saturday as well (http://sc2na.zotac-cup.com/)! It is played under the same conditions as the EU cup, but there are much less players competing in it... I don't know why, but NA players don't seem to want to play in weekly cups :/

Maybe more people work on weekends in NA? I know I haven't been able to enter a cup in a year(Team liquid cup, Zotac, etc) due to working the weekend
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 14:26:43
February 01 2012 14:26 GMT
#70
On February 01 2012 23:23 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 23:21 leandroqm wrote:
On February 01 2012 23:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:56 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:14 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:12 mTwTT1 wrote:
alot of the eu players have won like 40-50% of their winnings from online cups TT, na has shitty online cups compared to the eu scene.. since the release of the game ive played in like 3-4 online cups max


No one's stopping you from playing in our online cups, Payam


what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


I meant the EU cups, mate. The Zotacs and the Go4SC2s.


i cant even motivate myself to practice on the na ladder because it feels like blizzard has us locked up in a jail cell, do u srsly expect me to wake up at 7am to play in a cup with 200ms lag?


You mean like Koreans do for most cups they're invited to?
Yes, I do!


those are invitationals that have huge prizepools ^^, im talking about weekly cups : ]


Sure, but they play it because they think they can win.
It is a bet.
Don't you think you can win any online cups held on the eu server?
I think you could
What are you tinkering about?
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 01 2012 14:26 GMT
#71
On February 01 2012 21:39 Boonbag wrote:
We're just so rich we throw money at them like nothing

edit : its funny the EU total figures is like a little more than what Flash makes in a year

Source? I know it's on TL somewhere, I just don't know where Flash's yearly earnings is posted.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 14:32:58
February 01 2012 14:30 GMT
#72
EU just has better players and more money which also allows them to travel to American events and win those too.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
February 01 2012 14:47 GMT
#73
On February 01 2012 21:40 Cirqueenflex wrote:
i honestly think if you add in the salary of each player the numbers will be fairly even. At least i imagine top NA teams to pay their players way more than european teams


you honestly think that americans earn 400k more salary than europeans ?
dream on.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
February 01 2012 14:49 GMT
#74
On February 01 2012 23:26 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 21:39 Boonbag wrote:
We're just so rich we throw money at them like nothing

edit : its funny the EU total figures is like a little more than what Flash makes in a year

Source? I know it's on TL somewhere, I just don't know where Flash's yearly earnings is posted.


I believe Flash stated in an interview once(or hinted at it) that his salary is around 200k, not including prize winnings. Don't hold me for my word on that though.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
February 01 2012 14:54 GMT
#75
On February 01 2012 23:47 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 21:40 Cirqueenflex wrote:
i honestly think if you add in the salary of each player the numbers will be fairly even. At least i imagine top NA teams to pay their players way more than european teams


you honestly think that americans earn 400k more salary than europeans ?
dream on.

If you consider the rumors that huk's salary was supposed to be 100k+ it's not impossible. I'm pretty sure Idra and InControl have decent salaries too. 400k total might be too much though.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 15:02:53
February 01 2012 14:58 GMT
#76
On February 01 2012 23:54 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 23:47 kinglemon wrote:
On February 01 2012 21:40 Cirqueenflex wrote:
i honestly think if you add in the salary of each player the numbers will be fairly even. At least i imagine top NA teams to pay their players way more than european teams


you honestly think that americans earn 400k more salary than europeans ?
dream on.

If you consider the rumors that huk's salary was supposed to be 100k+ it's not impossible. I'm pretty sure Idra and InControl have decent salaries too. 400k total might be too much though.


on average europeans have much higher salarys than americans because teams contract players as individuals, they contract players based off their accomplishments/potential and not where they come from : D
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
February 01 2012 15:01 GMT
#77
On February 01 2012 23:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 22:56 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:14 MrBitter wrote:
On February 01 2012 22:12 mTwTT1 wrote:
alot of the eu players have won like 40-50% of their winnings from online cups TT, na has shitty online cups compared to the eu scene.. since the release of the game ive played in like 3-4 online cups max


No one's stopping you from playing in our online cups, Payam


what weekly cups do na players have tho? we only have playhems ;p


I meant the EU cups, mate. The Zotacs and the Go4SC2s.


i cant even motivate myself to practice on the na ladder because it feels like blizzard has us locked up in a jail cell, do u srsly expect me to wake up at 7am to play in a cup with 200ms lag?

Its still better than playing them at 2 AM after a whole day of gaming....

Sorry couldn't resist.
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
February 01 2012 15:02 GMT
#78
On February 01 2012 23:49 Stress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 23:26 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
On February 01 2012 21:39 Boonbag wrote:
We're just so rich we throw money at them like nothing

edit : its funny the EU total figures is like a little more than what Flash makes in a year

Source? I know it's on TL somewhere, I just don't know where Flash's yearly earnings is posted.


I believe Flash stated in an interview once(or hinted at it) that his salary is around 200k, not including prize winnings. Don't hold me for my word on that though.



is here
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
February 01 2012 15:08 GMT
#79
On February 01 2012 23:08 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 21:39 Boonbag wrote:
We're just so rich we throw money at them like nothing

edit : its funny the EU total figures is like a little more than what Flash makes in a year

Yeah I totally know what you are saying switching would be profitable

Comments like this are so hilarious. I actually want to see more people actually believe this so I can laugh.
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 15:10:51
February 01 2012 15:09 GMT
#80
On February 01 2012 23:54 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 23:47 kinglemon wrote:
On February 01 2012 21:40 Cirqueenflex wrote:
i honestly think if you add in the salary of each player the numbers will be fairly even. At least i imagine top NA teams to pay their players way more than european teams


you honestly think that americans earn 400k more salary than europeans ?
dream on.

If you consider the rumors that huk's salary was supposed to be 100k+ it's not impossible. I'm pretty sure Idra and InControl have decent salaries too. 400k total might be too much though.


100k$, 80k€ per a year? It's the salary of an french experimented Actuary (a man who creates financial products in banks) for exemple. His work products millions...

Not a chance this rumor can be true :D

If it was true, it would mean that EG's boss is very rich and very mad.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
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