EPTWe Must Fight For The Carrier - Page 37
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iLevitate
United States225 Posts
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
On May 30 2012 05:29 e945x01 wrote: Remove the colossus and buff carriers. ANYONE WITH ME? We would never be able to win another PvT. GL with that | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:14 Rassy wrote: Terran dont like colossus but they dont hate them that much that they would like to change it for weaker marines (More weak even?) , stronger carrier, strom and archon. Marines are overpowered in general and should have been nerfed a long time ago instead of nerfing all the other Terran units. It's ridiculous that Blizzard forced depot before rax, and nerfed bunkers, medivacs, tanks, marauders, reapers (to oblivion), ghosts, and even SCVs, without ever touching the sacred cow that is the marine. The fact that you think marines are weak when they are the backbone of every Terran matchup is a pretty obvious indication of how biased you are. On May 30 2012 10:14 Rassy wrote: I for one am glad the carrier is removed as imo it is one of the most imba unit in the whole game beside the 4 suply archon and broodlord. Do you even play SC2? Since when were carriers even viable? | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6214 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:28 sunprince wrote: Marines are overpowered in general and should have been nerfed a long time ago instead of nerfing all the other Terran units. It's ridiculous that Blizzard forced depot before rax, and nerfed bunkers, medivacs, tanks, marauders, reapers (to oblivion), ghosts, and even SCVs, without ever touching the sacred cow that is the marine. lol when it's put like that... | ||
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:26 LanTAs wrote: We would never be able to win another PvT. GL with that Depends on how much the buff carriers. I'm thinking carriers have energy and work like PDD. BAM! Now that's a BUFF!! | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B16eAS1dwA | ||
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j3i
United States357 Posts
On January 26 2012 10:36 Mohdoo wrote: Its currently too vulnerable. Other flying units are either faster than the carrier or have fungal growth to slow down pursuers. Increase carrier speed. It is currently too costly or takes too long to build. Reduce those numbers. Interceptor upgrade also too costly, as only then are carriers remotely decent. Make it no longer require an upgrade. These things can all be tweaked and changed as needed. As I said in my most recent post, its not a choice between imba and garbage. Tweaks can be made, as they have been to other units. Just look at the Archon and Ultralisk. The Infestor didn't even always have infested terran as a spell. If they are willing to make such big changes to other units, they should do the same for the carrier. They haven't even tried ;_; maybe.. hardened shields for the carrier? | ||
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
At least it's a non-1a late game unit. Without the Mothership, Toss can't do anything vs a good Zerg Deathball. The vortex is not imbalanced: it can be countered by splitting the Zerg army, with neural or by sending banelings in the vortex, etc.. For its price, the Mothership is a decent unit that adds more than just DPS for the deathball, which is what this game needs. | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:17 iLevitate wrote: mothership and carrier should be saved!!!!!!!!!!!!! couldnt agree more  if they remove those units, lets spam their forums and emails so much, that they will have to bring em back !!! | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:28 sunprince wrote: Marines are overpowered in general and should have been nerfed a long time ago instead of nerfing all the other Terran units. It's ridiculous that Blizzard forced depot before rax, and nerfed bunkers, medivacs, tanks, marauders, reapers (to oblivion), ghosts, and even SCVs, without ever touching the sacred cow that is the marine. The fact that you think marines are weak when they are the backbone of every Terran matchup is a pretty obvious indication of how biased you are. Do you even play SC2? Since when were carriers even viable? I actually agree.. marines are WAYY WAAAAAAYYY too powerful against everything | ||
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Sazbak
4 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:28 sunprince wrote: Marines are overpowered in general and should have been nerfed a long time ago instead of nerfing all the other Terran units. It's ridiculous that Blizzard forced depot before rax, and nerfed bunkers, medivacs, tanks, marauders, reapers (to oblivion), ghosts, and even SCVs, without ever touching the sacred cow that is the marine. The fact that you think marines are weak when they are the backbone of every Terran matchup is a pretty obvious indication of how biased you are. Do you even play SC2? Since when were carriers even viable? Lol actually the only biased person i see is you. I do remeber you seeing in the M23 Zerg keyboard topic where the OP posted a funny picture and after that all we could hear from you is butthurt whining and biased senseless comments like "Zerg is the most demanding race while Terran is the least", which is quite lol considering Zerg's almost 1aish battle micro and the fact that people in the Race switching topic generally say that terran is the most mechanically demanding. So basically you are just a nomatterwhat-terran hater probably because you're losing against them a lot.  L2P -------------------------------- Oh and yes we want the Carrier Back!! I remember seeing a new PvZ Style on battle.net forums that uses Carrier + Archons by a person called Sidewinder. Google it up if you're interested | ||
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:30 Patate wrote: Don't fight for the carrier... fight for the Mothership instead At least it's a non-1a late game unit. Without the Mothership, Toss can't do anything vs a good Zerg Deathball. The vortex is not imbalanced: it can be countered by splitting the Zerg army, with neural or by sending banelings in the vortex, etc.. For its price, the Mothership is a decent unit that adds more than just DPS for the deathball, which is what this game needs. The mothership is symptematic of what is bad about the current protoss design. games should not come down to good or bad vortex from a single unit that takes 3 minutes to build. HT and Ghost battles come down to good or bad storm / emp, but you get a bunch of those casters meaning it's a constant micro battle to see who can get the better positioning. the mothership is insanely slow and you get 1 shot, 2 at best, to try and get those money vortexes. If you mess it up you've lost. It's that simple. I'm not saying it should be replaced with a '1A unit' but witht he mothership everything rests on the mothership not getting sniped or being unable to get archons into the vortex or whatever. It's idiotic. | ||
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fairymonger
United States81 Posts
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DaveVAH
Canada162 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:47 fairymonger wrote: The carrier could be a OMFG unit kinda like the battlecruiser is now. it just needs some love from blizz and it could be a alot better. Atm i think voids are better then carriers in general. in pvz the only reason people get the fleet beacon is for the mothership. even with the tech people avoid the carrier cuz it is so easily killed Battle cruisers are not that much better than carriers mate. if at all. if they had no energy they would be better than carriers. as they are they are of equal worth and equally not built by pros. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:39 Sinedd wrote: couldnt agree more if they remove those units, lets spam their forums and emails so much, that they will have to bring em back !!! How about we just combine them to form the Mothercarrier! Get rid of the recall, make vortex only suck up projectile attacks and have the interceptors (now name Mini-Mothers) be the only thing the Mothercarrier cloaks. Also, it is no longer an air unit, now it is a submarine. Similar to how the Mothership cloaks the units under it, Mothercarrier will wet the ground beneath. It will cost 1000 minerals flat, with the spells not using energy but vespene gas instead. Boom, I just fixed Starcraft. | ||
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tuestresfat
2555 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:26 LanTAs wrote: We would never be able to win another PvT. GL with that I'm perfectly fine with that (mid-masters). Parting has shown storm is just as viable and possibly more powerful than colossi in this match-up. | ||
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Berceno
Spain401 Posts
CARRIER HAS ARRIVED | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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-Switch-
Canada506 Posts
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