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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
January 23 2012 14:55 GMT
#181
lol i'd invite saviOr to my event, guaranteed hype
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
January 23 2012 14:56 GMT
#182
i do agree the bw teams might kill these sc2 teams financially. whats stopping them to? because at the end of the day players like MC want a salary and these sc2 teams need to find sponsors to compete with BW teams or they will just buy out these players. I do hope they come to an agreement and have like 2 major tournaments running like OSL and MSL which any player/team good enough will be able to compete in.

I think this actually will help SC2 viewers grow though when big names like stork , jaedong, bisu, flash play sc2.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 15:03:17
January 23 2012 15:01 GMT
#183
edit: well that was unwarranted. after all, they haven't done anything yet. I hope it works out for the best.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
January 23 2012 15:01 GMT
#184
This idea that the bw teams might just have their own kespa events and exclude the current sc2 teams and their players - it seems like it would be awful. It would be a big blow to the sc2 scene outside Korea, IMO, because it would go back towards the bw model where there's very little interaction between foreign and Korean players and scenes. However, it actually seems plausible that kespa would try to do something like that, sorbet could try and keep control.
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 23 2012 15:02 GMT
#185
On January 24 2012 00:01 Chunhyang wrote:
Fck BW, I hope it dies a horrible death. And all the money goes to sc2.


Well, that's one way to commit account suicide.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 23 2012 15:03 GMT
#186
On January 23 2012 17:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Oh shit? hints at Happy joining a foreign team??


If a player as good as happy cannot make a decent living, then I can't blame him for wanting to go to a foreign team for more cash and opportunities.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 23 2012 15:04 GMT
#187
On January 23 2012 22:53 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 22:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:
On January 23 2012 22:12 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
On January 23 2012 22:03 Mirosuu wrote:
On January 23 2012 19:14 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
I for one welcome our new KeSPA overlords

Finally some professionalism.


There is a big reason why most of the westerner scene and in particular, Idra dislike anything that has the name KeSPA on it, and it's definitely not Professionalism.

Most of the western scene dont know anything about KeSPA and just hate it because its the cool thing to do!

Um, didn't Idra live there for like 3 years? I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.


KeSPA has its own sets of... problems. They're no angels. And they're not the most professional of organizations either.

But a lot of the shit that they get is completely unjustified (like the entire IP rights debate). But there's a ton of reasons to fling shit at them for, which is why everyone looks at KeSPA and see EVERYTHING they do as terrible. But just remember not everything they do is terrible and being out in the public spotlight sucks since things you do/say often get misinterpreted


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On January 23 2012 21:25 resilve wrote:
Surely what matters is if Blizzard will license a league other than GOM?

The whole point with sc2 is that you cant just start your own league like BW, but you need blizzard's contract and permission to go ahead. Surely any BW teams that come over will have to operate within the framework Blizz + GOM has in korea? which is the GSL as the only league and the GSTL as the only team league. I dont see how Kespa could re-create their BW situation.


Blizzard can't do shit about it. It's all GOM at this point since GOM has that exclusive contract.


Indeed and speak for yourselves instead of someone else.

Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 23 2012 15:06 GMT
#188
On January 23 2012 23:55 Michaels wrote:
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On January 23 2012 23:33 canikizu wrote:
On January 23 2012 22:17 Tomken wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:26 .vid wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:25 resilve wrote:
Surely what matters is if Blizzard will license a league other than GOM?

Why would they not? It's not like KeSPA's money is worth less then Gretech's. Speaking of which, KeSPA and the teams have bigger sponsors and more money at their disposal.

Anyway, you can say all you want about KeSPA, but I'd rather have them give it a try then watch GOM organised events any longer.


OGN destroy GOM on every aspect in production value.

Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene.



GOM has no HD stream




the korean stream looks very nice. But i dont know if its hd
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 23 2012 15:08 GMT
#189
On January 24 2012 00:03 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 17:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Oh shit? hints at Happy joining a foreign team??


If a player as good as happy cannot make a decent living, then I can't blame him for wanting to go to a foreign team for more cash and opportunities.


Yeah. If Happy played in foreign tournaments, he would never lose a TvZ again. Would have to work on his TvP though, there are lots of good foreign Protoss.
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 15:17:25
January 23 2012 15:12 GMT
#190
I guess it's not really a shocker that they're switching over, should be interesting... sad for BW though D:.
I wonder if some of these guys will go back to their old teams, could have some serious drama going on soon O.o

Edit:
On January 23 2012 23:33 canikizu wrote:
Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene.

They have the best commentators though; those guys know how to bring the excitement even if it's in a language you can't understand!
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careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
January 23 2012 15:26 GMT
#191
May the best survive, present SC2 teams dont have to survive for the scene to exist.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
January 23 2012 15:26 GMT
#192
Why do they want to switch?
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 23 2012 15:27 GMT
#193
On January 24 2012 00:12 a9arnn wrote:
I guess it's not really a shocker that they're switching over, should be interesting... sad for BW though D:.
I wonder if some of these guys will go back to their old teams, could have some serious drama going on soon O.o

Edit:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 23:33 canikizu wrote:
Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene.

They have the best commentators though; those guys know how to bring the excitement even if it's in a language you can't understand!

Well isn't that the same for the gom casters? from those spotlight vids they sure sound hyped up as hell.
Unless ofc you actually watch the korean stream somehow.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 23 2012 15:31 GMT
#194
On January 23 2012 17:19 Disastorm wrote:
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On January 23 2012 17:18 Subversive wrote:
Mr. Chae> Our stance is that there is no problem as long as current SC2 players perform better than BW pros when they switch.


I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

It means that they hope that they will be able to negotiate so that BW teams can play in the GSL and that the GSL teams can play in BW's SC2 league.


This is the part I don't get. "bw's sc2 league." How does that work when gom has full broadcasting rights? It seems like gom can basically tell them they do things goms way or they don't get to do SC2 at all. Now obviously gom doesn't want to exclude them, but I think if kespa was to start an SC2 league it would be on GOMs terms, or it would be shut down.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
January 23 2012 15:34 GMT
#195
On January 24 2012 00:31 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 17:19 Disastorm wrote:
On January 23 2012 17:18 Subversive wrote:
Mr. Chae> Our stance is that there is no problem as long as current SC2 players perform better than BW pros when they switch.


I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

It means that they hope that they will be able to negotiate so that BW teams can play in the GSL and that the GSL teams can play in BW's SC2 league.


This is the part I don't get. "bw's sc2 league." How does that work when gom has full broadcasting rights? It seems like gom can basically tell them they do things goms way or they don't get to do SC2 at all. Now obviously gom doesn't want to exclude them, but I think if kespa was to start an SC2 league it would be on GOMs terms, or it would be shut down.

Don't that depend on what kind of deal gom have with blizzard? They can't have full broadcasting rights unlimited into the future. If Kespa or whomever throws enough money towards blizzard anything is possible probably.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 23 2012 15:51 GMT
#196
On January 24 2012 00:34 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:31 hunts wrote:
On January 23 2012 17:19 Disastorm wrote:
On January 23 2012 17:18 Subversive wrote:
Mr. Chae> Our stance is that there is no problem as long as current SC2 players perform better than BW pros when they switch.


I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

It means that they hope that they will be able to negotiate so that BW teams can play in the GSL and that the GSL teams can play in BW's SC2 league.


This is the part I don't get. "bw's sc2 league." How does that work when gom has full broadcasting rights? It seems like gom can basically tell them they do things goms way or they don't get to do SC2 at all. Now obviously gom doesn't want to exclude them, but I think if kespa was to start an SC2 league it would be on GOMs terms, or it would be shut down.

Don't that depend on what kind of deal gom have with blizzard? They can't have full broadcasting rights unlimited into the future. If Kespa or whomever throws enough money towards blizzard anything is possible probably.


That's true, I believe (not 100% sure) that goms exclusive rights end sometime in 2013, and what happens from there no one really knows.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
IMStyle
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada52 Posts
January 23 2012 15:56 GMT
#197
On January 23 2012 18:01 DreamOen wrote:
THe other thing behind it , is that , the korean audience, would watch it more, if there are BW teams involved. As well as myself XD. And, too much egoism right here, everyone wants to protect their own interests besides let e-sports grow overall in south korea. Why? Because gom , obviusly is just saying that they are worry for the teams, but in reality, they are worried for their own channel only.



The current teams have grown with gom and made Gsl what it is today. Gom isn't just saying they are worried, they are actually worried. They obviously are more connected to current sc2 teams than up and coming Bw teams.
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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
January 23 2012 16:00 GMT
#198
I'm scared.

I want to see the scene grow in Korea, but I don't want to see the foreign scene die off completely because of it. I'm thinking in 2013 we will be seeing alot of familiar faces playing LoL or Dota2. If foreigner pro's are serious about this game and want to make a living off of it they are going to need to commit fully to Korea.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 23 2012 16:02 GMT
#199
As a manager of a much smaller team with Korean players on it, I am very worried about the Brood War switch. I've heard when it's rumored to be coming, and a pair of my players have even been approached by Brood War teams. Thankfully they stayed behind out of loyalty to the team and whatnot, but it could have just as easily gone the other way with my team losing two of our best players.

While I think Brood War teams switching would drive some insane attention to the Korean SC2 market, I can't help but think it might also obliterate what we know as the current dynamic of SC2 worldwide.
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TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 16:07:28
January 23 2012 16:04 GMT
#200
Thank you a lot for bringing us this interview!
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