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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On January 23 2012 22:12 1sz2sz3sz wrote: Most of the western scene dont know anything about KeSPA and just hate it because its the cool thing to do! Um, didn't Idra live there for like 3 years? I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On January 23 2012 22:30 GrungyMunchy wrote: Um, didn't Idra live there for like 3 years? I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about. KeSPA has its own sets of... problems. They're no angels. And they're not the most professional of organizations either. But a lot of the shit that they get is completely unjustified (like the entire IP rights debate). But there's a ton of reasons to fling shit at them for, which is why everyone looks at KeSPA and see EVERYTHING they do as terrible. But just remember not everything they do is terrible and being out in the public spotlight sucks since things you do/say often get misinterpreted  On January 23 2012 21:25 resilve wrote: Surely what matters is if Blizzard will license a league other than GOM? The whole point with sc2 is that you cant just start your own league like BW, but you need blizzard's contract and permission to go ahead. Surely any BW teams that come over will have to operate within the framework Blizz + GOM has in korea? which is the GSL as the only league and the GSTL as the only team league. I dont see how Kespa could re-create their BW situation. Blizzard can't do shit about it. It's all GOM at this point since GOM has that exclusive contract. | ||
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iCCup.Nove
United States260 Posts
On January 23 2012 22:08 ElPeque.fogata wrote: WTF. I fail to see how all this "protectionism" helps the players in any way. It only seems to protect teams from having to pay the players, decent salaries. Transfers are always good. They show the esport is alive and the money is flowing. And if bw players switching take money away from current sc2 pros, then so be fucking it, they deserve it better! Don't fix what is not broken. Give free enterprise a chance you marxist/stastist nuts!  The problem they're discussing in the interview isn't so much about foreigners but about current korean pro teams switching to sc2 and basically forcing their way with their money. Imagine if a player like Flash switched to SC2, it's unlikely that he'd be on a team such as oGs instead KT would just invest in their own SC2 team. That's where the problems arise. All these BW teams switching inflates the amount of teams in the GSTL but shouldn't the teams who were there first be the ones to reap the rewards? Such as IM, Prime, Slayers. Those teams aren't involved in BW (and not taking anything from them) so why should bw teams be allowed to simply walk in and force their way in regards to SC2. This not only affects the teams and players but the people who work at GOM. | ||
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KicKDoG
Sweden765 Posts
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On January 23 2012 23:01 whereismymind wrote: Do you think savior can compete in sc2? Not in Korea for sure | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On January 23 2012 22:53 Milkis wrote: KeSPA has its own sets of... problems. They're no angels. And they're not the most professional of organizations either. But a lot of the shit that they get is completely unjustified (like the entire IP rights debate). But there's a ton of reasons to fling shit at them for, which is why everyone looks at KeSPA and see EVERYTHING they do as terrible. But just remember not everything they do is terrible and being out in the public spotlight sucks since things you do/say often get misinterpreted Blizzard can't do shit about it. It's all GOM at this point since GOM has that exclusive contract. And that's what's really irking me about Blizzard. It's their own damn game, they should put their foot down and at least use the rightful power that they have as the CREATORS of the game. Instead they don't get involved unless their earning power gets threatened. Pretty sad. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 23 2012 23:01 whereismymind wrote: Do you think savior can compete in sc2? Even if it was legal, it would be a stupid move. SaviOr isn't exactly liked in either the BW or SC2 scene in Korea. | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
And all of this talk is pretty new perspective for me and it is quite unsettling =\ | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
I'm willing to bet that he's not just banned in Korea. He'll get banned in foreign events quite simply because foreign organizers are afraid to receive community backlash for accepting him. Savior's practically a persona non grata in the whole of esports. | ||
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symtab
Romania11 Posts
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sebsejr
213 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 23 2012 23:08 Kommander wrote: I'm willing to bet that he's not just banned in Korea. He'll get banned in foreign events quite simply because foreign organizers are afraid to receive community backlash for accepting him. Savior's practically a persona non grata in the whole of esports. Agreed. Inviting SaviOr to your tournament is one way to hand out pitchforks to Reddit. | ||
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Leetley
1796 Posts
What a thing to do!~ | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On January 23 2012 22:17 Tomken wrote: OGN destroy GOM on every aspect in production value. Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene. | ||
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
On January 23 2012 23:33 canikizu wrote: Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene. Hahhahaha :D I feel the same way | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Mr. Chae> Our stance is that there is no problem as long as current SC2 players perform better than BW pros when they switch. how are they going to do this? Is Gom going to break their fingers ? I don't understand this at all.. And I think they will need to expand the GSTL if there are more teams, otherwise it would be unfair. Regardless of the teams. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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Michaels
419 Posts
On January 23 2012 23:33 canikizu wrote: Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene. GOM has no HD stream | ||
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