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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 23 2012 16:04 GMT
#201
Can't wait to see what BW pros are capable of with SC2. I don't believe the mechanical skill ceiling has been reached in SC2 despite how often it is said that SC2 is much easier than BW mechanically. I do think it's safe to say that in the current state of Wings of Liberty, every BW pro would be wise to switch to Terran. Terran has the potential to be incredibly OP with flawless micro. The units are just too good.
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
January 23 2012 16:07 GMT
#202
I don't really care what happens to the GSL as long as there are still good matches for us to watch.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 16:16:34
January 23 2012 16:13 GMT
#203
haha would be funny bw teams buy sc2 pros and seclude themself, foreigner teams will buy the top bw koreans that have switched. Wonder who would win the game of money at the end. In any case this sounds like something i am not really looking forward to.
Guess i have to watch korean commentating in sc2 soon if i want to see koreans xD.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
January 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#204
On January 24 2012 01:13 FeyFey wrote:
haha would be funny bw teams buy sc2 pros and seclude themself, foreigner teams will buy the top bw koreans that have switched. Wonder who would win the game of money at the end. In any case this sounds like something i am not really looking forward to.
Sounds like i have to watch korean commentating in sc2 soon if i want to see koreans xD.


BW progamming teams have more money than 99% of the foreigner teams
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#205
I think that current sc2 teams should merge with bw teams.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#206
On January 23 2012 21:25 resilve wrote:
Surely what matters is if Blizzard will license a league other than GOM?

The whole point with sc2 is that you cant just start your own league like BW, but you need blizzard's contract and permission to go ahead. Surely any BW teams that come over will have to operate within the framework Blizz + GOM has in korea? which is the GSL as the only league and the GSTL as the only team league. I dont see how Kespa could re-create their BW situation.


Blizzard surely will. There's no reason not to.
Theoreticaly Kespa could have their own private circle. They already have everything they need and it's not forbidden to basicaly have an invite only system for their tournament.

The situation is a bit different this time for OGN. They don't have to rely on Kespa because there are enough established Teams & Players in terms of skill with sponsors who would gladly apear on TV. That means OGN has more pull and could be more independent, if they wanted to. Well there is still CJ that might intervene, but anyway, at least Samsung could profit from a team with players that travel.

More money is good. Players should not just be bountyhunters.


Typhon
Profile Joined July 2009
United States387 Posts
January 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#207
Couldn't they have interviewed an actually struggling midlevel code A/S player about the income inequality thing? Seems kind of ironic to ask Nestea about the problem with lack of player salaries.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 23 2012 16:18 GMT
#208
i certainly hope there will not be a divide like there was in bw ;(. I've been loving how the scene is currently operating. I don't want it to change.
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AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
January 23 2012 16:20 GMT
#209
Is the article implying that the BW pro teams could start their own league? It seems like the debate is whither or not they'll join the GSL, not when and if they should be allowed in.

And good for Nestea not giving the BW teams the all advice they want. That sort of ticks me off. "Hey, you used to be a jobber for us, give us all your builds and notes so when we come over we can immediately take over your tournament."
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 16:22:02
January 23 2012 16:21 GMT
#210
On January 24 2012 00:12 a9arnn wrote:
I guess it's not really a shocker that they're switching over, should be interesting... sad for BW though D:.
I wonder if some of these guys will go back to their old teams, could have some serious drama going on soon O.o

Edit:
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On January 23 2012 23:33 canikizu wrote:
Yeah I love OGN's HD stream and English cast and how they try to reach out to the foreign scene.

They have the best commentators though; those guys know how to bring the excitement even if it's in a language you can't understand!


I strongly disagree since they sound exactly the same during a game deciding fight as they do when a drone is being built... That is not hyping up the game that is destroying my interest in the game
You need to construct additional pylons.
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 16:23:56
January 23 2012 16:22 GMT
#211
On January 24 2012 00:26 rift wrote:
Why do they want to switch?

might have something to do with next ogn starleague being league of legends, etc.

kinda sad, i hoped for at least 1-2 more years of bw


On January 24 2012 00:56 IMStyle wrote:
The current teams have grown with gom and made Gsl what it is today.

yup, they made gsl a sorry heap of bad games.
eujjjjj
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#212
On January 24 2012 01:22 .vid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:26 rift wrote:
Why do they want to switch?

might have something to do with next ogn starleague being league of legends, etc.

kinda sad, i hoped for at least 1-2 more years of bw


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:56 IMStyle wrote:
The current teams have grown with gom and made Gsl what it is today.

yup, they made gsl a sorry heap of bad games.


im sure the first 2 years of sc1 without bw produced way better quality games
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
January 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#213
I'm more worried that if people are scared of SC2 teams having a tough time vs BW teams, what then for foreigners? :S
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 23 2012 16:30 GMT
#214
On January 24 2012 01:02 VirgilSC2 wrote:
As a manager of a much smaller team with Korean players on it, I am very worried about the Brood War switch. I've heard when it's rumored to be coming, and a pair of my players have even been approached by Brood War teams. Thankfully they stayed behind out of loyalty to the team and whatnot, but it could have just as easily gone the other way with my team losing two of our best players.

While I think Brood War teams switching would drive some insane attention to the Korean SC2 market, I can't help but think it might also obliterate what we know as the current dynamic of SC2 worldwide.


This would lead me to believe BW teams are not putting all their eggs in one basket and instead just testing the waters. If S Class BW players are going to switch, then no reason for BW teams to reach out to SC2 teams for players. Seems like the split SC2/BW teams that were rumored few months ago is the most likely outcome.
KurenTV
Profile Joined January 2012
United States24 Posts
January 23 2012 16:31 GMT
#215
While I really want SC2 to grow in Korea, I hope this doesn't hurt the international SC2 scene that I've come to love over the past year. I think the importaint thing to remember is that while we need a KeSPA like group it can't be anything like KeSPA because the SC2 scene is way different than the BW scene is there. Whatever it is, it needs to work with what we have now and help that grow. Not fight againt it, trying to make a new sytem. Anyway, I hope this all goes well in the future.
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
January 23 2012 16:37 GMT
#216
i dont know about you guys, but im personally interested in who the player is that a BW pro team took on for SC2. That's quite a landmark in my opinion
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#217
Is it totally out of the realm of possibility that BW teams will join up with current SC2 Korean team?

Additionally, I thought most SC2 pros were contracted.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
January 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#218
I think we all need to fear the oncoming BW players/teams, the funding is too much
Team Operations Director for CheckSix Gaming
aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
January 23 2012 16:44 GMT
#219
This will just give current SC2 pro's the drive to practise harder. From what I have heard the practise schedules are very laid back.
Team Captain for FXO.NA Follow me on twitter @FXOkarmy
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 23 2012 16:45 GMT
#220
I don't think we need to get all worried about BW teams obliterating the current SC2 scene. Sure they are reaching out to some SC2 players here and there, but that's only natural since it would be valuable for them to have someone who is knowledgable about SC2 for in-house training purposes. That's probably all they need them for, meaning they wouldn't be buying out SC2 players en masse.
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