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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
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Derrida
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Omsomsoms
Croatia194 Posts
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robhoward
79 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:15 Derrida wrote: Nicely done, this was needed. Do we have confirmation if people can participate in multiple arena qualifiers? If so, I think Winter Arena is going to be stacked by Koreans. You can only participate in one, and that must be where your MLG provided flight leaves from, or you just get a $400 stipend. | ||
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
The whole flight rule might as well be called "The Huk Rule", as MLG wanted him in the NA bracket for the MLG Global Invitational, but he wanted to play in the Korean bracket. In the end, he didn't participate at all. This rule allows players the flexibility to choose what's best for them. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Apart from the open bracket at Championship event, there's no way through for non-invited players. And one live-event open bracket per live event is hardly enough for less accomplished players to really commit themselves. On the other hand, it's very possible to see the actual winner come straight through the open bracket once again, if a real top player decides to only play the Championship. | ||
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:21 Talin wrote: So basically, it's an invitational tournament now? If the "139 invited participants" are the only ones that can compete in the online qualifiers. Apart from the open bracket at Championship event, there's no way through for non-invited players. And one live-event open bracket per live event is hardly enough for less accomplished players to really commit themselves. On the other hand, it's very possible to see the actual winner come straight through the open bracket once again, if a real top player decides to only play the Championship. The main effects of the new system are twofold: 1) MLG hosts much more content (for cheaper) and has more captive eyeballs on their site for more weeks a year. Arenas and online qualifiers will cost a fraction of the price of a live event to produce. 2) We don't have a stagnant Top 16 like the 2011 season, were poorly performing players simply retained their seed via rank points. The Open Bracket largely unchanged from last year, so for less accomplished players the picture hasn't changed much. HOWEVER What is yet to be described is the method of creating the 139 Online Qualifier player list. Could be MLG rank points from 2011, could be top performers from other tournaments, TLPD ranking, whatever. It could just be a list they felt looked right. Perhaps there will in the future be ways for newer players to enter the online qualifiers. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:21 Talin wrote: So basically, it's an invitational tournament now? If the "139 invited participants" are the only ones that can compete in the online qualifiers. Apart from the open bracket at Championship event, there's no way through for non-invited players. And one live-event open bracket per live event is hardly enough for less accomplished players to really commit themselves. On the other hand, it's very possible to see the actual winner come straight through the open bracket once again, if a real top player decides to only play the Championship. Yeah, seems that way. The open bracket is now tougher than ever considering pool play is "doubled." What I mean is that they now have to get by the bottom 16 from the arenas before they can even play the top 16. We need some more details regarding the invitational system.. | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
I still don't agree with the season starting so late and with so much online (not live) tournament. | ||
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:30 Angelbelow wrote: Yeah, seems that way. The open bracket is now tougher than ever considering pool play is "doubled." What I mean is that they now have to get by the bottom 16 from the arenas before they can even play the top 16. We need some more details regarding the invitational system.. Yes, extremely tough. This is why the open bracket is shaped as a flask.  | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
I also love the fact that they can choose the server they play in and how MLG decides who they pay for the flight. | ||
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:36 MrSexington wrote: Where the remaining 8 white blocks under "Pool Play" come from? These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:37 Trunkers wrote: These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined. Oh, so... The open bracket is played before pool play? (Unlike the parallel play of both of them into a single championship bracket.) So the bottom 16 of arena play mix it up with the people who eventually end up with the top 16, only to have to fight their way from Round 5 forward of the open bracket, just to be rewarded with a rematch with the 16 guys? | ||
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Sermokala
United States14105 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
o: korean domination lolol | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:46 KawaiiRice wrote: I think the smart thing for koreans to do is have a discussion on which 24 players they want to get through MLG, and then split all of them up to take all the slots in the other qualifiers. o: korean domination lolol and inc. drama! | ||
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Sermokala
United States14105 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:34 Trunkers wrote: Yes, extremely tough. This is why the open bracket is shaped as a flask. LOL well played. | ||
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prabhbhambra13
United Kingdom424 Posts
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RoyAlex
Norway420 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:18 SamPH wrote: You can only participate in one, and that must be where your MLG provided flight leaves from, or you just get a $400 stipend. If thats the case then there prolly will be teams that will have their players perform in several qualifiers if they dont make it on the first try, and just simply pay the players air-flight themself. Atleast the big teams could do that. Also there will be some imbaness about the continent that have their local qualifier first, since they can still decide after the first qualifier has been done if they want do what i just said above. While the other continents will miss some qualifiers or hope their star player makes the local qualifier without any more qualifiers coming. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:46 KawaiiRice wrote: I think the smart thing for koreans to do is have a discussion on which 24 players they want to get through MLG, and then split all of them up to take all the slots in the other qualifiers. o: korean domination lolol Lol well the NA server ones would be short changed. Or is Kr to Eu latency worse? | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
If a player registered for an event does not show up, their opponent would get a bye for the round, presumably. Perhaps they would move another player from the online-qualifiers into the empty spot. We'll have to see if any qualify and opt not to take the trip. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:27 MrDudeMan wrote: Will the korean players who win the korean qualifiers also get a payed flight to the MLG event? Or will it be just to the winter arena? Because if it is just to the winter arena, what would happen in a situation where 5-8 of the koreans competing do not show up at the MLG event? it would be dumb to qualify and not show up to the championship where most of the heavy money is at. | ||
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Louis8k8
Canada285 Posts
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:42 Louis8k8 wrote: Can I ask what those white boxes are in the championship ? D: On January 20 2012 21:37 Trunkers wrote: These are people advancing undefeated from the Open Bracket. I am assuming it will be 8 spots (for a total of 24, 6 per pool). But it's possible they'll choose to do 20 total spots like they did for Halo and the other titles last season. That is yet to be determined. | ||
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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ObserverSix2One
Israel115 Posts
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:46 XenoX101 wrote: Great job. If you just put a "Top 8 Open Bracket" label next to the white boxes this will be perfect .Updated. Thanks for the advice. I was trying to keep it as clean as possible and assumed people were familiar with the MLG pool play / open bracket system, but it made the graphic unclear for those that didn't. Note: It'll in all likelihood be the same as last year, with players entering into the Championship Losers Bracket from the Open Bracket. Still double elimination, etc. | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
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Meser87
United States476 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:13 Xivsa wrote: Oh so this Arena + Championship is for each season. They're hoping players travel twice out to America, once for a non-spectator event and once for the usual event as last year. I'm not sure how many players from Korea or even Europe will actually go to all 8 over the course of 2012. If they qualify its all paid for, why would they not come? | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
Also! What an incredible format! I believe it's gonna make for some awesome storylines! | ||
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Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
Less live events but bigger live events... i'm fine with that. | ||
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doteh
Australia89 Posts
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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mrafaeldie12
Brazil537 Posts
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:44 doteh wrote: looks like the easiest game of tetris ever ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FcvD2.png) Tetris game I wrote. Random piece sizes generated from the Poisson distribution, for you stat nerds. Poissontris. | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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~Maverick~
United States234 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On January 21 2012 00:29 ~Maverick~ wrote: Man mlg has got to be trolling me. They put part of the event in the closest city to me (nyc), but no live spectators?? This makes me very sadface (MLG office/Studio is in NewYork, It wasn't planned to be a regular MLG event it seems. | ||
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Leafs
Canada41 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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Drunkface
United States46 Posts
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Killcani
Sweden448 Posts
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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
On January 21 2012 01:25 Leafs wrote: I like the format, but I'm mostly sad because it will mean fewer BarCrafts. Why? There could easily be barcraft for the winter championship AND the winter arena. It would be a similar number of barcrafts I would think. (around 8 total events barcraft worthy) | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
With a $26000 prize pool for the Winter Arena tournament, I can't help but wonder how large the prize pool for the Winter Championship tournament will be? | ||
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ScareCrow`
Canada88 Posts
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Magrath
Canada292 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
If so, wtfgdfh MLG? | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On January 21 2012 04:59 TheToast wrote: So am I missing something or does this mean just 4 live MLG events per year? If so, wtfgdfh MLG? Looks like it. From MLG's perspective, this actually reduces the cost of running major lans while potentially increasing their revenue (from online passes, stream ads, sponsors etc.) They probably liked the numbers they saw when they ran their online tournament leading up to Providence (the name of the tournament escapes me but its the one where IdrA, Mvp, NesTea and Naniwa competed in). From that perspective I think its a high reward, low risk type of a move. | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On January 21 2012 04:59 TheToast wrote: So am I missing something or does this mean just 4 live MLG events per year? If so, wtfgdfh MLG? Yes theres only 4 live events, I already miss the old MLG format of having 5-6 events per season, But hey a lot ppl hated the system. | ||
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Clank
United States548 Posts
On January 21 2012 08:22 zaii wrote: Yes theres only 4 live events, I already miss the old MLG format of having 5-6 events per season, But hey a lot ppl hated the system. they have clearly stated that this only applies to the winter season and not the rest of the year. Sundance tweeted "This is just for the winter arena - other season may have different structures and higher frequency of activity". this is definitely not all they have in store for the whole year. | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On January 21 2012 08:39 Clank wrote: they have clearly stated that this only applies to the winter season and not the rest of the year. Sundance tweeted "This is just for the winter arena - other season may have different structures and higher frequency of activity". this is definitely not all they have in store for the whole year. 4 Seasons = events = championships, This has been hinted for a long time now. Also on JP's interview with ESFI or Dignitas he confirmed less events then last year, Which had 6. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On January 21 2012 08:22 zaii wrote: Yes theres only 4 live events, I already miss the old MLG format of having 5-6 events per season, But hey a lot ppl hated the system. Yeah I really liked the format they had last year, the seeding system was f-ed up and the grand finals needed pool play, but other than that I really liked it. Damn reddit kids ruin everything with their whining... On January 21 2012 08:39 Clank wrote: they have clearly stated that this only applies to the winter season and not the rest of the year. Sundance tweeted "This is just for the winter arena - other season may have different structures and higher frequency of activity". this is definitely not all they have in store for the whole year. Hmmm alright I'll put the pitchfork back in the closet.... for now. But I think it would be even more annoying if MLG changed formats twice this year. | ||
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ES_JohnClark
United States1121 Posts
Pretty sad really. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
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Gofarman
Canada648 Posts
1 Leenock 2 NaNiwa 3 DongRaeGu 4 Mvp 5 HuK 6 MC 7 HayprO 8 IdrA 4 Koreans 2 Swedes 1 American 1 Canadian :D BANJO HWAITING | ||
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Trunkers
Belgium17 Posts
On January 21 2012 15:57 CPTBadAss wrote: Are you sure MLG didn't make a mistake in firing you? This picture is awesome. Simple and easy to understand. The color coding is awesome. Thanks a lot! Thanks for the positive response. I'm a statistical programmer, and coded this up during my lunch break. I can understand MLG's perspective in not wanting the content writers anymore, as I don't think our articles had a very good ROI compared to streaming important matches. Articles have historically served two purposes: 1) Capturing the community 2) Reminding people that an event was going to occur Unfortunately for MLG, it's pretty much impossible to capture the SC2 community. The Starcraft community lives on TeamLiquid and on Reddit, and I imagine the average SC2 fan doesn't visit the MLG site much when there are no matches going on. If you look at the mlgpro.com forums, it's pretty much a ghost town in the SC2 section. The same thing happened years ago with the Smash community. MLG's response was to buy Smashboards. The reason these moves are good for MLG is that they can leverage a much higher ad rate than a single site. We all heard during the SOPA stuff that MLG moved 100 sites off of GoDaddy, and this includes things like Smashboards, Gamebattles, etc. As far as needing to remind people that events are going on, Reddit and TL do a pretty good job of that already. To get the eyeballs, they need more tournament matches. Matches that matter. There are dozens of weekend and online tournaments that come and go, but other than the GSL, none of them have any lasting impact. Some player gets some more fame, a few memories are created, some cash passed around, but they don't have the significance of say an Up and Down match. With the new structure, MLG gets to cast matches that have impact throughout the year. One tournament is feeding into another, and they're going to anchor their seasonal championship events with huge prize pools (I would around 100K+, but prize pools don't actually bring viewer, a feeling of significance does). MLG has chosen to be more like a traditional sports league. Host the competition to get the eyeballs, and let ESPN-like organizations provide the coverage. Of course I'm sad they closed their writing department, as they were a great company to work for, and run by people who truly GET competitive gaming. If a spot opened up I'd jump right back in a heartbeat. | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
its what makes MLG , MLG its what adds an element of amazing to it the "winter arena" whatever it is needs an open bracket. anyone willing to fly there and pay to enter can enter it. if they think they are good enough at SC2 to possibly win that first place spot and they spent money to fly there to do it, then by dammit i wanna see them play EDIT: lol, just read it more closely. the winter arena will not have a massive crowd then dangit, i guess the problem is that MLG is now hosting less events in 2012 than in 2011 (that have massive crowds) thats lame! | ||
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