
Carmac responds to IEM Criticism: "Bring on the pitchforks…
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Tuthur
France985 Posts
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falafelnr1
Sweden444 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:43 mrtomjones wrote: Uhh wow dude. I comment that it is because of bad net and you snap on me? Fun. Someone never going to another IEM event is silly. MLG has had lag issues before. Everyone still goes to those. Every tournament has had troubles of some sort and people still go to GSL and Dreamhack. Perhaps you should chill. this isnt the first time with IEM? its always liek this always like this. other places Fix it, but odds are well have the same problems tommorrow... I snapped because ur brushing lag of as not a problem and the players should just deal withit and HuK isnt goign to go simply ebcause this isnt the first time. Plus it will be offputting for players and put players off if all their events the is awlays problems. | ||
Scareb
Germany173 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:42 AysiktiriX wrote: I sharpened my pitchfork good today, tomorrow I might have to start stabbing. (Ooh, SOTG will be on soon, I hope they have brought their pitchforks too, I'll definitely tune in.) Judge IEM or ESL or the tourney at the end of it! I hope their is ironic in your post. | ||
Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
Won't give NightEnD his 2nd place spot though. That's what bothers me tbh, that someone ended up suffering for it. | ||
CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:44 falafelnr1 wrote: Can't Intel hook you up with some good PC's? There has been lag in like all games where big battles happened. So to me it feels like the PC's are the main problem. The ESL has computer problems for over 10 years now. so it seems like intel cannot otherwise they already wouldve done it. | ||
mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:45 Tommylew wrote: this isnt the first time with IEM? its always liek this always like this. other places Fix it, but odds are well have the same problems tommorrow... I snapped because ur brushing lag of as not a problem and the players should just deal withit and HuK isnt goign to go simply ebcause this isnt the first time. Plus it will be offputting for players and put players off if all their events the is awlays problems. I said that the problem appeard to me to be because of the internet there. I didn't comment on whether I think it is a big deal. However, sometimes situations aren't ideal, and if they are the same for everyone than sometimes you just have to play through it. | ||
funkyfritter
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Wren
United States745 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:39 Adebisi wrote: I really feel this is more Blizzard's fault than IEMs... Agree 100%. Two other games were going on simultaneously without issues, and the venue was clearly way above requirements. Only explanation is another battle.net issue. EDIT: Talking about blizzard in post 666? What a glorious coincidence! | ||
Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:50 mrtomjones wrote: I said that the problem appeard to me to be because of the internet there. I didn't comment on whether I think it is a big deal. However, sometimes situations aren't ideal, and if they are the same for everyone than sometimes you just have to play through it. yeh but Carmac has mentioned above that it hasnt been the same for both players in thecas of naniwa and also probabbly ngihtend in the last game. Nightend must feel a bit bitter after that game, he may of had delay trying to deal with then muta too we dont and probably wont know.,.. | ||
YMCApylons
Taiwan359 Posts
On the bright side, NASL suddenly is looking pretty good. | ||
mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:52 Tommylew wrote: yeh but Carmac has mentioned above that it hasnt been the same for both players in thecas of naniwa and also probabbly ngihtend in the last game. Nightend must feel a bit bitter after that game, he may of had delay trying to deal with then muta too we dont and probably wont know.,.. Whatever. Apparently I'll just go "shutup" because a pissy fan is angry at the unfairness of the world. Either way, they have to deal with it. It sucks. But its happened and there obviously wasn't much that they could have done to fix it. Meh I'm out. GL carmac | ||
Noorgrin
Germany116 Posts
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obsKura
Ireland1061 Posts
I just have one request: Please give NightenD a regame. He lost because of this issue therefore losing the series and the 2nd spot of the group and dropped out of the tournament. For every other game this would probably have been not that important but this game was the most important for him and in the entire group. It's very likely he would've won this game. Please give him a regame. | ||
Doublemint
Austria8486 Posts
Such things CAN happen as faulty electronics are the vehicle of esports, but what I think made the situation unbearable for viewers is the fact that you did not communicate in a professional manner what exactly seems to be the problem and what are the appropriate steps to take thereafter. Maybe via the casters or on one definitely legit official IEM twitter account.I for example was outraged when I heard nani forfeited because I thought he was right not to play but overreacted in simply dropping out, so one bad thing led to another - after that it was thankfully clarified but so much drama and a massive community shitstorm was already on the way and this could hurt IEM as it die MLG for example at Dallas(They thankfully learned their lesson and are doing fine now). You and IEM staff are generally doing a good job in providing entertaining content, but as I said, better PR work in such critical situations could do wonders ![]() | ||
AysiktiriX
358 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:46 Scareb wrote: Judge IEM or ESL or the tourney at the end of it! I hope their is ironic in your post. No, there was no irony actually. I am a very patient and calm person. That's why I decided for an opening day not to say anything even though what we witnessed was... "ugly" is a fitting word, I guess. If there are such issues again tomorrow... I'll bring not only a sharpened pitchfork, but a torch too. | ||
Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
still, that doesn't excuse the lag, but I feel for IEM, there's only so much you can do. Blizzard is the biggest culprit, I don't know and still don't know why they refuse LAN support. | ||
GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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Tumor
Austria192 Posts
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
On January 20 2012 07:02 Flonomenalz wrote: lol guys nightend was still 2-3 bases against what, 4-5 base? nightned still had nearly no money compared to like 5k bank for zenio? i mean zenio played badly, but nightend made mistakes too, and even though he would have won that battle, i still doubt he wins the game. still, that doesn't excuse the lag, but I feel for IEM, there's only so much you can do. Blizzard is the biggest culprit, I don't know and still don't know why they refuse LAN support. Yea but if he won the battle, on best case scenario he could have killed 1 zerg base while securing his 3rd and to some extent 4th base until zerg gets fully reloaded and willing to engage in a new fight. | ||
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