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Ikaruga
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden6 Posts
January 18 2012 21:20 GMT
#161
Damn, something fishy is going on. Too bad, because TSL had some of my favourite players in their roster, especially Clide and SangHo. Too bad...
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
January 18 2012 21:21 GMT
#162
Poor TSL hope they get better luck
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OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
January 18 2012 21:22 GMT
#163
Although TSL looks bad now, it will get a lot better. They have the best SC2 coach in the business, Coach Lee has rebuilt a team from scratch before, and he can do it again. I would almost be surprised in TSL did not recover from this.
Coach Lee fighting, TSL fighting.
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
January 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#164
This stuff only destroys TSL if the team sponsors think it makes them look bad or they think they can get better returns from somewhere else.

For my money, there's just too much unneeded drama around TSL. Coach Lee has shown that he can coach a player up, but that he also pushes them out after a relatively short period of time and doesn't seem to handle that situation well. I think this aLive controversy could easily be the one that pushes sponsors out the door. If I was a sponsor of TSL, I'd personally be looking into sponsoring other teams when my current contract runs out. There are a lot of solid Korean teams that produce good/great GSL/GSTL results without the controversy surrounding TSL.

TSL won't die tomorrow and it may even get some new life breathed into it with more BW players moving over, but BW pros aren't going to switch over so that they can play for free. If coach Lee can't handle the managerial/public relations portion of his job better, I don't think he'll have the money to entice BW players to switch over.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#165
On January 19 2012 06:18 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 06:11 sAsImre wrote:
Virgil you might add FXOBoSs' insight somewhere, I think it can add valuable information for everyone regarding all this speech with the direction of the team/teamhouse atmospher

I'm a bit frazzled at the moment dealing with a lot of things, could you please point me in the direction of his comments?

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 06:14 Sliver wrote:
Was the mystery Protoss revealed yet?

Yes he was

I was very disappointed that their acquisition didn't register as news, and it flew under the radar quite a bit.


"TSL.Hyun has shown how brood war gamers are disciplined enough to make something of starcraft 2. I am not going to go into the debate exactly, but I am a close friend with TSL coach Lee. I have been informed that Hyun practices up to 15 hours a day, and on the 15th hour he still has a smile on his face and enjoys himself. I don’t know any foreign gamer who does that, and I know very few korean gamers who do that, at least in starcraft 2. "

From http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/page/2
Article: my picks for the fis
Zest fanboy.
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
January 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#166
On January 19 2012 03:44 Cocoba wrote:
TSL is slowly falling apart
Hopefully Heart finds a new team and TSL can find new players


Not so slowly in my opinion. I clearly have no idea what is going on within this team but there must be some sort of structural problem with the coach or management. It's not a coincidence when half your roster decides to leave within 3 1/2 months.

I know Coach Lee holds a lot of respect in the Korean SC community but there must be a reason that he is the only coach who repeatedly declares that his players are being "poached". Like all of us, I don't have any real knowledge on what is happening with this team, but am curious to know.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
Janders
Profile Joined June 2011
Mexico222 Posts
January 18 2012 21:32 GMT
#167
wow tsl roster is getting destroyed
:D
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
January 18 2012 21:32 GMT
#168
On January 19 2012 06:31 ZisforZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:44 Cocoba wrote:
TSL is slowly falling apart
Hopefully Heart finds a new team and TSL can find new players


Not so slowly in my opinion. I clearly have no idea what is going on within this team but there must be some sort of structural problem with the coach or management. It's not a coincidence when half your roster decides to leave within 3 1/2 months.

I know Coach Lee holds a lot of respect in the Korean SC community but there must be a reason that he is the only coach who repeatedly declares that his players are being "poached". Like all of us, I don't have any real knowledge on what is happening with this team, but am curious to know.

I think heart is more in the case of SangHo/Clide/JYP(Who left on good terms due to the change of practice regiment) more than drama. Just seems like this was annouced a month to late
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
January 18 2012 21:33 GMT
#169
On January 19 2012 03:46 iYiYi wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On January 19 2012 03:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
[center]much like Sheth when leaving FXO/center]

How is Sheth leaving Korea after a couple of weeks anything like heart leaving TSL?


It is similar b/c of the reason they both left. Each was not comfortable with the team house environment.

Sheth himself has said he would've stayed longer if he could have other living arrangements.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
_Nova_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States167 Posts
January 18 2012 21:34 GMT
#170
SlayerS_Heart

Calling it now.
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
January 18 2012 21:35 GMT
#171
On January 19 2012 06:32 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 06:31 ZisforZerg wrote:
On January 19 2012 03:44 Cocoba wrote:
TSL is slowly falling apart
Hopefully Heart finds a new team and TSL can find new players


Not so slowly in my opinion. I clearly have no idea what is going on within this team but there must be some sort of structural problem with the coach or management. It's not a coincidence when half your roster decides to leave within 3 1/2 months.

I know Coach Lee holds a lot of respect in the Korean SC community but there must be a reason that he is the only coach who repeatedly declares that his players are being "poached". Like all of us, I don't have any real knowledge on what is happening with this team, but am curious to know.

I think heart is more in the case of SangHo/Clide/JYP(Who left on good terms due to the change of practice regiment) more than drama. Just seems like this was annouced a month to late


Do you think that b/c the players you listed left on "good terms" means there is not a structural problem with the team? I was thinking why, as a whole, TSL is falling apart.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 18 2012 21:38 GMT
#172
going down ....

And I was so amazed by the "why TSL will win gstl" article not long ago
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
January 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#173
On January 19 2012 06:22 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Although TSL looks bad now, it will get a lot better. They have the best SC2 coach in the business


Best?

It helps when you don't alienate your players.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
January 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#174
Polt and RevivaL are still good players
John 15:13
Ubenn
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada114 Posts
January 18 2012 21:51 GMT
#175
They need a coaching change in TSL house.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 21:53:40
January 18 2012 21:53 GMT
#176
hmm heart had potential -.- I saw him play a few times in like TL Opens and stuff
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 18 2012 21:54 GMT
#177
On January 19 2012 06:21 Laneir wrote:
Poor TSL hope they get better luck


At what point does "luck" factor still a factor in this. I don't think they're getting unlucky, I think its something much more concrete. Given the recently released information, their management is questionable to say the least.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
January 18 2012 21:54 GMT
#178
TSL seriously has so much drama... It's kinda starting to be ridiculous ><
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
January 18 2012 21:56 GMT
#179
How bad is the TSL team house? Do the players all live in a sardine can? Or does this have to do more with the coach or maybe some strict rules?
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#180
On January 19 2012 06:39 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 06:22 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Although TSL looks bad now, it will get a lot better. They have the best SC2 coach in the business


Best?

It helps when you don't alienate your players.

Can someone please validate this for me? I've heard several time that Coach Lee is one of the best, but he hasn't produced any champions (Polt was not TSL at the time of his victory) besides Fruitdealer. And despite having the first SC2 champion, and the sponsorship dollars that came along with it, they have never commanded as nearly as much of a presence IM, oGs, or SlayerS.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
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