• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:39
CET 07:39
KST 15:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !6Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle screp: Command line app to parse SC rep files How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2087 users

Heart leaves TSL - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 15 Next All
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 23:33:22
January 18 2012 23:32 GMT
#201
On January 19 2012 08:17 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Just in case anyone would like to know what it's like in the TSL house as far as living standards go:



Terran/Princess/Major didn't stay with TSL long did he? Did he completely quit SC2 after 2 weeks there? I haven't heard from him since this.
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
January 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#202
sc2 needs a rekrul
Team LiquidPoorUser
Xayvier
Profile Joined November 2010
United States387 Posts
January 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#203
On January 19 2012 03:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:48 SpiZe wrote:
So who is left on TSL now

(T)Polt ■ (T)Ultimate ■ (Z)RevivaL ■ (Z)Shine ■ (Z)Symbol ■ (Z)HyuN ■ (Z)RagnaroK ■ Dream ■ (P)Cyrano


This is a great lineup...Wow. You get this idea that the team has now only crap players, but then you look at that lineup and you're just so surprised.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 23:42:47
January 18 2012 23:41 GMT
#204
On January 19 2012 08:32 dsousa wrote:
Terran/Princess/Major didn't stay with TSL long did he? Did he completely quit SC2 after 2 weeks there? I haven't heard from him since this.


You may just not be up to date on what name he's using now.

On January 19 2012 08:32 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 08:13 rUiNati0n wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:09 Gamegene wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:57 McFeser wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:39 TheButtonmen wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:22 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Although TSL looks bad now, it will get a lot better. They have the best SC2 coach in the business


Best?

It helps when you don't alienate your players.

Can someone please validate this for me? I've heard several time that Coach Lee is one of the best, but he hasn't produced any champions (Polt was not TSL at the time of his victory) besides Fruitdealer. And despite having the first SC2 champion, and the sponsorship dollars that came along with it, they have never commanded as nearly as much of a presence IM, oGs, or SlayerS.


Can we have a list of all former TSL players please? haha.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_SCV_Life#Former


pretty damn impressive no?

maybe they're leaving because coach lee is a true BW coach.


Then why hasn't he produced any championship level players?

If his style is alienate so many of his players without producing results then I really don't see how he's the "best" coach at all.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 18 2012 23:43 GMT
#205
On January 19 2012 08:41 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 08:32 Gamegene wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:13 rUiNati0n wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:09 Gamegene wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:57 McFeser wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:39 TheButtonmen wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:22 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Although TSL looks bad now, it will get a lot better. They have the best SC2 coach in the business


Best?

It helps when you don't alienate your players.

Can someone please validate this for me? I've heard several time that Coach Lee is one of the best, but he hasn't produced any champions (Polt was not TSL at the time of his victory) besides Fruitdealer. And despite having the first SC2 champion, and the sponsorship dollars that came along with it, they have never commanded as nearly as much of a presence IM, oGs, or SlayerS.


Can we have a list of all former TSL players please? haha.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_SCV_Life#Former


pretty damn impressive no?

maybe they're leaving because coach lee is a true BW coach.


Then why hasn't he produced any championship level players?

If his style is alienate so many of his players without producing results then I really don't see how he's the "best" coach at all.


because all his players are leaving genius
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 23:47:24
January 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#206
So he's a bad coach then?

I just don't understand why people keep claiming he's the best / a great coach when he hasn't produced any top players and his team is continually hemorrhaging players. Where is all this Coach Lee love/hype coming from?

I'd blame Artosis but Coach Lee isn't a Protoss player.
Ldawg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States328 Posts
January 18 2012 23:47 GMT
#207
This news sucks so many of the good players leaving TSL, although they still have a formidable roster (assuming the rest stay on). I feel bad for the team and Coach Lee to an extent (although the printing of Alive's Skype chat is strange).
"Terran so...ice cream!" MKP/MC at HSC IV
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 18 2012 23:47 GMT
#208
TSL seems to be a slowly sinking ship. :/
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#209
Damn, losing a lot of great playes :/
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 18 2012 23:50 GMT
#210
On January 19 2012 08:41 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 08:32 Gamegene wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:13 rUiNati0n wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:09 Gamegene wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:57 McFeser wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:39 TheButtonmen wrote:
On January 19 2012 06:22 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Although TSL looks bad now, it will get a lot better. They have the best SC2 coach in the business


Best?

It helps when you don't alienate your players.

Can someone please validate this for me? I've heard several time that Coach Lee is one of the best, but he hasn't produced any champions (Polt was not TSL at the time of his victory) besides Fruitdealer. And despite having the first SC2 champion, and the sponsorship dollars that came along with it, they have never commanded as nearly as much of a presence IM, oGs, or SlayerS.


Can we have a list of all former TSL players please? haha.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_SCV_Life#Former


pretty damn impressive no?

maybe they're leaving because coach lee is a true BW coach.


Then why hasn't he produced any championship level players?

If his style is alienate so many of his players without producing results then I really don't see how he's the "best" coach at all.


Just looking at current and former rosters it seems to be a really deep lineup:
Revival Polt Hyun Alive JYP Killer Clide Rain Puma Guineapig, all fairly noticeable names.

He doesn't seem to be an OZ coach who wants to focus on players one at a time.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 23:52 GMT
#211
On January 19 2012 08:32 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 08:17 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Just in case anyone would like to know what it's like in the TSL house as far as living standards go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBYOQuRKuY


Terran/Princess/Major didn't stay with TSL long did he? Did he completely quit SC2 after 2 weeks there? I haven't heard from him since this.

He's back living at home and plays for CheckSix now.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 18 2012 23:52 GMT
#212
If polt leaves next, idk what to say…
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 18 2012 23:53 GMT
#213
On January 19 2012 08:46 TheButtonmen wrote:
So he's a bad coach then?

I just don't understand why people keep claiming he's the best / a great coach when he hasn't produced any top players and his team is continually hemorrhaging players. Where is all this Coach Lee love/hype coming from?

I'd blame Artosis but Coach Lee isn't a Protoss player.


Evidence points to him being a bad manager and leader. As far as his coaching is concerned, there's nothing indicating that hes a bad coach and to his credit, TSL has always had notable players getting good results.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Boof
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
January 18 2012 23:56 GMT
#214
What is Lee doing to this team?
All you hear is how great this coach is, but obviously he's not doing something - or many things - right.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
January 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#215
On January 19 2012 03:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:48 SpiZe wrote:
So who is left on TSL now

(T)Polt ■ (T)Ultimate ■ (Z)RevivaL ■ (Z)Shine ■ (Z)Symbol ■ (Z)HyuN ■ (Z)RagnaroK ■ Dream ■ (P)Cyrano

I only know Polt there.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 23:58:03
January 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#216
On January 19 2012 03:48 Seriox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:46 valaki wrote:
So any notable players left in TSL?

TSL_Polt

But I'm really curious if there isn't anything else going on. I mean, so many players left TSL because the don't felt comfortable anymore.

yeah, and then lee allegedly goes thru private skype chat logs. sketch, he needs to account/answer for that before outsiders can analyze this situation any further
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 19 2012 00:00 GMT
#217
WOW, another TSL players, holy shit
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
January 19 2012 00:03 GMT
#218
At this rate, idk how much longer TSL can last T.T
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
January 19 2012 00:09 GMT
#219
why is there so much drama about TSL.... i wonder truely why players wanted to leave
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
January 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#220
TSL will always find more players. Whether or not they will pan out is the question! I feel the team is much less attractive since top players such as Fruitdealer, Killer, Trickster, and Clide have all left.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1637
Shuttle 589
Pusan 256
Bale 38
Noble 14
Mong 10
Icarus 7
Dota 2
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 640
C9.Mang0458
Other Games
summit1g10532
XaKoH 297
Mew2King97
Livibee41
Trikslyr11
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 47
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH189
• practicex 45
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki33
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1315
• Rush1214
• Doublelift509
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
4h 21m
ByuN vs Creator
Clem vs Rogue
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
OSC
7h 21m
Big Brain Bouts
10h 21m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
WardiTV 2025
1d 4h
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
1d 5h
Ladder Legends
1d 12h
BSL 21
1d 13h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.