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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it. | ||
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KeyHunt
United States218 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:51 KeyHunt wrote: Throwing around blame isn't going to fix our problems! We need organizations and teams to respect each other enough to not talk to their players about these matters directly, and more importantly we need players to have enough respect for their teams to want to tell us about these kind of things. Come on people, blame isn't going to help anyone. Start thinking of ways we can fix this for our future. Only way to fix it is for a Global Kespa like organization to hold teams accountable for when they do shit like this. That's the only way it will get solved. At the end of the day it's a business and if a team feels they will get very little negative PR for poaching a player they will go ahead and do it. Sadly that's the only way. | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:49 laharl23 wrote: TSL being a bunch of babies again to try to get some publicity, what else is new. Just the coach. As soon as people within his team decide to leave TSL to go to another team, he does EVERYTHING to throw shit to his own player's names before they leave. He's a self-righteous, power-hungry dickwad that should not be allowed to own a progaming team, in my opinion. User was warned for this post | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:54 KanoCoke wrote: Just the coach. As soon as people within his team decide to leave TSL to go to another team, he does EVERYTHING to throw shit to his own player's names before they leave. He's a self-righteous, power-hungry dickwad that should not be allowed to own a progaming team, in my opinion. not sure if you are being sarcastic or extremely ignorant here... | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:56 brachester wrote: not sure if you are being sarcastic or extremely ignorant here... I'm being more biased to players than backstabbers that take everything to the presses as soon as they're upset. Problem? | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
And just like with EG/Puma, i have no freaking problem with a team asking player directly if he is at all interested in some kind of deal, before bringing it up with the coach... | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:54 KanoCoke wrote: Just the coach. As soon as people within his team decide to leave TSL to go to another team, he does EVERYTHING to throw shit to his own player's names before they leave. He's a self-righteous, power-hungry dickwad that should not be allowed to own a progaming team, in my opinion. I agree, i hate him hes a douche. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:48 D_K_night wrote: well that's nothing new. If you are using equipment provided to you by your employer, they have every right to that equipment. period. it is not yours. it belongs to the company, not you. you were merely the user. It's legal, it's not ethical however. Especially when you're supposed to have a close personal relationship like manager and player, supposedly have. | ||
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:56 brachester wrote: not sure if you are being sarcastic or extremely ignorant here... he's being right | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Much has been said here and I don't think I can add much of significance, but I'm sure there's much more to it than just Coach Lee "blowing things out of proportion" and "being a backstabbing asshole", I mean, WTF? It just shows that there's a long way to go yet for Esports and I hope this situation gets resolved quickly and quietly, at least quieter than the first few acts of this drama. | ||
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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TheButtonmen
Canada1405 Posts
TSL has problems this is nothing new, just wait until the dust settles and we get the full story. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:19 moonmeh wrote: Because on the TIG interview I translated Alive specifically mentioned that the conversation was on his computer and he wonders how Coach Lee got his hands on it Link for source bro Later Coach Lee called me over and showed me the printed out copy of the conversation. Seeing as how the conversation was done in Skype on my computer I wonder how he got it. It's perfectly possible to be logged in the same Skype account on 2 machines. So maybe aLive forgot to logout his account in the training house when he left . | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On January 19 2012 02:48 D_K_night wrote: well that's nothing new. If you are using equipment provided to you by your employer, they have every right to that equipment. period. it is not yours. it belongs to the company, not you. you were merely the user. However they don't have the right to break in to personal e-mail etc. Skype falls under that catagory, so I'm gonna assume that Coach Lee didn't guess aLive's password but that he was still logged in. If Coach Lee put in the password or obtained it without permission... then that is breach of privacy, at least where I live ;p | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On January 19 2012 03:09 StarVe wrote: I really can't believe how many people in this thread only blame Coach Lee/TSL, it blows my mind. Much has been said here and I don't think I can add much of significance, but I'm sure there's much more to it than just Coach Lee "blowing things out of proportion" and "being a backstabbing asshole", I mean, WTF? It just shows that there's a long way to go yet for Esports and I hope this situation gets resolved quickly and quietly, at least quieter than the first few acts of this drama. People are blaming Coach Lee because this shit keeps happening to TSL. If this was the first time there was a little controversy surrounding a player leaving for another team, people would probably be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But how many players have jumped ship now? 7? Obviously there is something wrong within TSL, and Coach Lee lashing out at all of the teams that pick up his skilled players doesn't help his image. Which is more likely, that TSL isn't such a great team to be a part of and players went looking for greener grass, or there is some sort of conspiracy against Coach Lee and there is a coalition of foreign teams trying to take his players out from under him? Also doesn't help that he pulled a (what should have been confidential) conversation from aLive's Skype. Totally shady, paranoid, and possessive. Nobody wants to play for a guy like that, it just breeds ill will. | ||
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