EPTI mean, according to the fnatic statement he's not playing playing for them (yet) but according to TSL he's no longer playing for them?
TSL claims Fnatic tampered with Alive, Fnatic denies - Pag…
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
I mean, according to the fnatic statement he's not playing playing for them (yet) but according to TSL he's no longer playing for them? | ||
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Alokiya
United States648 Posts
On January 18 2012 17:55 mvtaylor wrote: Well, who is aLive actually playing for then? I mean, according to the fnatic statement he's not playing playing for them (yet) but according to TSL he's no longer playing for them? He'll be playing without a team tonight for the GSL most likely. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 18 2012 17:55 ReboundEU wrote: Who said they accuired aLive? did u even read the article? Title quote: Fnatic quote: "However, Fnatic announced in an official statement that Alive had not in fact joined their team" "Coach Lee said "It seems he talked about transferring teams with Fnatic's translator. Fnatic is denying responsibility by saying it's something the translator did on his [or her] own, but that's nonsense. I'm angry that they didn't approach me officially, and went to the player directly." Coach Lee had been considering taking legal measures, such as suing Alive for breach of contract. " So 1. They didn't contract anyone from TSL 2. This Lee guy or TSL management team difdn't even try to contact Fnatic about this situation...they just started to flaming before even getting their facts down....even if fnatic thinks that the translation problem is out of the question...as a korean team manager u should always question translation..if u don't....that's just bad mentality You gave me possible scenario that could happen The only possibility would be they talked with him to offer a fnatic spot after his contract ends..and that is 100% legal...why so much QQ? I gave you my answer to it . Fnatic of course didn't contract anyone from tsl that isn't the point , second fnatic according to their statement are actually negotiating with TsL on the possibility of getting Alive in to fnatic as seen here in this quote . In conclusion we highly respect both Mr Lee and aLives talents, and from Fnatic's side we will strive to work for an amicable deal with Coach Lee. If this isn't coming out of the woods and saying okay we admit in a sort of a way we did approach Alive and now we want to work this out through proper channels . | ||
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hyperknight
294 Posts
you are all idiots for following rumors/gossips. TL Forums : sc2 = gossip girl : US tv | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I know Fnatic sound like they have not done anything wrong, but when your own translator is basically freely chatting to aLive about possibility of signing with Fnatic before they have spoke with coach lee is kind of silly. Its not like they were not talking with TSL Coach anyway? They were in housing discussions with him >.< This is just so unprofessional on every level! And it is happening more and more!! aLive//Puma the 2 that jump out at me now, something needs to be put in place and teams need to learn how to DO BUISNESS when players are under contract. Like coach lee said, if aLive would of trasnfered they would of sue'd HIM personally which again is wrong as it's not his fault. Aswell thank god there isn't any "agents" in E-Sports yet too, because we would have even more shit load of breaching of contract laws and more unwanted unprofessionalism | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:01 hyperknight wrote: New theory: you are all idiots for following rumors/gossips. TL Forums : sc2 = gossip girl : US tv duh. of course we're going to jump to conclusions and make broad ethical questions and accusations! ESPORTS man! | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:02 Pandemona wrote: Jesus, ok now this is getting stupid t.t people need to learn how transfering works in E-Sports just like in every other sport. These kind of actions whether or not sanctioned by Fnatic or not are highly illegal in other sports, and in some cases in football teams have been BANNED from transfering any players for 6-12months! Yet nothing happens in these kind of cases? Why not!! I know Fnatic sound like they have not done anything wrong, but when your own translator is basically freely chatting to aLive about possibility of signing with Fnatic before they have spoke with coach lee is kind of silly. Its not like they were not talking with TSL Coach anyway? They were in housing discussions with him >.< This is just so unprofessional on every level! And it is happening more and more!! aLive//Puma the 2 that jump out at me now, something needs to be put in place and teams need to learn how to DO BUISNESS when players are under contract. Like coach lee said, if aLive would of trasnfered they would of sue'd HIM personally which again is wrong as it's not his fault. Aswell thank god there isn't any "agents" in E-Sports yet too, because we would have even more shit load of breaching of contract laws and more unwanted unprofessionalism Because there is no overarching body controlling/regulating/governing entity (whatever word you wish to use) for SC2. It's a free-for-all, anyone can do whatever they want - play some games, makes some monies, create some dramas. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:01 hyperknight wrote: New theory: you are all idiots for following rumors/gossips. TL Forums : sc2 = gossip girl : US tv What's wrong with following rumors in a sports environment like this? | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:13 Zeroxk wrote: Wonder which team disbands first, Zenex or TSL Maybe they should do a fusion dance and become ZenTSexL. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:13 Zeroxk wrote: Wonder which team disbands first, Zenex or TSL TSL's got a couple of solid sponsors. ZeNEX last I heard barely keep their teamhouse running/have had to vacate their teamhouse. | ||
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MomenT
New Zealand4 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:10 Corrosive wrote: What's wrong with following rumors in a sports environment like this? The drama that ensues...? There's "good" drama that stirs up hype, which is cool and "totally helps esports" (if thats your thing), then there's stuff like this. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Drama they create on TL is sort of interesting I suppose though. | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
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Polarexia
United States383 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:21 Full.tilt wrote: All these transfers are kind of meaningless anyway until a proper (majority of teams involved not small invitationals) team league starts. I don't care what team players are on when watching individual competitions because I don't attribute any of the players' individual success to their team in the foreigner scene. Drama they create on TL is sort of interesting I suppose though. TSL participates in the GSTL, which is probably the biggest team league around (maybe not in prize money, but definitely in terms of exposure). aLive has historically been one of TSL's best team league performer. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:26 pdd wrote: TSL participates in the GSTL, which is probably the biggest team league around (maybe not in prize money, but definitely in terms of exposure). aLive has historically been one of TSL's best team league performer. I think he was talking more about Fnatic acquiring him, but I agree its a loss for TSL. | ||
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discobaas
225 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:01 hyperknight wrote: New theory: you are all idiots for following rumors/gossips. TL Forums : sc2 = gossip girl : US tv dude dont be dissing gossip girl | ||
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