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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 18 2012 09:59 GMT
#521
I'm sorry but something must seriously be wrong with the TSL team, so many players leaving their team must indicate something.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
January 18 2012 10:03 GMT
#522
Well I guess TSL still doesn't have their player under contract, if they would foreign teams could talk to them as much as they want, a contract is a contract.

If they would be as mad as they sound they could just get aLive back, I feel like they love the drama.

User was warned for this post
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 18 2012 10:05 GMT
#523
On January 18 2012 18:39 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 18:33 Pandemona wrote:
So...aLive playing in GSL now and has no TSL uniform, nor does he have TSL clan tag....Yet he isn't joining Fnatic now :S lol silly really.

A REALLY good terran player is now teamless

inc EG alive.



oh dear GOD please no
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
January 18 2012 10:06 GMT
#524
Well.... if he isn't actually on fnatic, I can't see coach Lee's claims can be taken seriously.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
January 18 2012 10:08 GMT
#525
people who are bashing coach Lee should just be quiet before they are going to be proven wrong,........again
I would rather wait for the official statement from coach Lee and aLive before saying anything. As far as i know, all of TSL players are under contract so yes, poaching players behind their back is wrong (but whether this is true or not i don't know)
I hate all this singing
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 18 2012 10:09 GMT
#526
TSL losing players left and right, very few players remain from the days when I first began watching ScII. Wonder what's going on there...

TSL_Drama hwaiting!!!
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Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 18 2012 10:11 GMT
#527
Alive will have no problem finding a team. Definite Code S level player.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
January 18 2012 10:11 GMT
#528
from fnatic's reply, I am thinking this is what happened:

fnatic said they never made a formal offer to aLive. It's really common in the corporate world to use headhunters so the organization making the offer can save face.

Just like fnatic is seeming to do here. While fnatic said they never made a "formal offer," they never said "we didn't make him an offer." Oh, they made him an offer, all right, they just never sent over a contract to sign, because they hadn't had a chance to negotiate the buyout from Lee, who holds aLive's contract at the moment.

They can't sign a player when somebody already holds the contract. aLive made the mistake of approaching Lee before fnatic did. I think if they had, there wouldn't have been all this hoopla.
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:16:36
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#529
Just because Fnatic isn't signing him right now doesn't mean by the time this is all said and done, he won't be FnaticaLive. Until he picks a team, I'm going under the assumption he will eventually fall in with Fnatic. That being said, aLive's wiki and Fnatic's wiki on the TLPD already have this stated as fact. Wonder what over-eager editor decided to go ahead and add those changes in?

[EDIT] Found it. Shame shame.
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:45:25
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#530
fnatic.ToD (P)
fnatic.NightEnd (P)
fnatic.Moon (Z)
fnatic.aLive (T)
fnatic.Rain (T)

If this is in fact true, fnatic will shoot from the bottom of the sc2 team to the very top of the foreigner team scene. what a sick sick sick sick lineup that would be. They need 1 more top zerg imo. Also from fnatic korean academy - son and departure both zerg players.

I hope this issue gets sorted out and aLive indeed joins fnatic!
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 18 2012 10:25 GMT
#531
I feel sad for Coach Lee. Seems like every few weeks he's in the news for something like this.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 18 2012 10:28 GMT
#532
Wtf? -.-
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
January 18 2012 10:28 GMT
#533
On January 18 2012 16:24 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:22 Cuddle wrote:
Great pick-up for Fnatic. Feels good that this silly korean cultural "rules" gets more blows by western teams. Hopefully it's all come crumbling down soon. Coach Lee needs to understand that contacting the player first is how it's done. If he ran a good business for his players, he wouldn't lose them.


ALIVE IS UNDER CONTRACT.

Can this be put in gigantic bold letters at the beginning of the thread?


aLive left the team! How is he under contract?
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 18 2012 10:29 GMT
#534
This drama stuff is hurting e-Sports.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 18 2012 10:32 GMT
#535
On January 18 2012 19:28 Cuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:24 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 16:22 Cuddle wrote:
Great pick-up for Fnatic. Feels good that this silly korean cultural "rules" gets more blows by western teams. Hopefully it's all come crumbling down soon. Coach Lee needs to understand that contacting the player first is how it's done. If he ran a good business for his players, he wouldn't lose them.


ALIVE IS UNDER CONTRACT.

Can this be put in gigantic bold letters at the beginning of the thread?


aLive left the team! How is he under contract?


That's the problem?
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:42:55
January 18 2012 10:42 GMT
#536
alive probably left tsl thinking that fnatic would give him a contract after
High Risk Low Reward
pookadin
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia422 Posts
January 18 2012 10:42 GMT
#537
Why are people hating on Coach Lee? Didn't this exact thing happen in the FruitDealer and Tester incident and eventually he was vindicated..

Put your pitchforks away and leave Mama Bear alone!
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 18 2012 10:44 GMT
#538
On January 18 2012 19:14 hyperknight wrote:
fnatic.ToD (P)
fnatic.NightEnd (P)
fnatic.Moon (Z)
fnatic.aLive (T)
fnatic.Rain (T)

If this is in fact true, fnatic will shoot from the bottom of the sc2 team to the very top. what a sick sick sick sick lineup that would be. They need 1 more top zerg imo. Also from fnatic korean academy - son and departure both zerg players.

I hope this issue gets sorted out and aLive indeed joins fnatic!



To the very top? I dont think so. However i agree they will go to like top 3 foreigner team roster with that team! But not to the top!

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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#539
On January 18 2012 18:33 Pandemona wrote:
So...aLive playing in GSL now and has no TSL uniform, nor does he have TSL clan tag....Yet he isn't joining Fnatic now :S lol silly really.

A REALLY good terran player is now teamless

Yeah this whole thing doesnt smell right
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 18 2012 10:51 GMT
#540
On January 18 2012 19:28 Cuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:24 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 16:22 Cuddle wrote:
Great pick-up for Fnatic. Feels good that this silly korean cultural "rules" gets more blows by western teams. Hopefully it's all come crumbling down soon. Coach Lee needs to understand that contacting the player first is how it's done. If he ran a good business for his players, he wouldn't lose them.


ALIVE IS UNDER CONTRACT.

Can this be put in gigantic bold letters at the beginning of the thread?


aLive left the team! How is he under contract?


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